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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/5/2009 11:20:52 PM

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It must have got lost under the story of the anti-healthcare reform protester biting off the finger of a pro-healthcare reform worker.

You've spun this a full 180 degrees, Spinner, and turned it into a lie... An oversight on your part, I'm sure.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_2790324/tm.htm

It was the MoveOn.org activist who bit the finger off a passerby.

Damn...I stand corrected. I misread the story entirely and my posting was entirely inaccurate. I do wish to apologize for my mistake, endeavor to more carefully check my facts in future posts and condemn in the strongest possible terms the biting off of any body parts of anyone on either side of this issue.

No way to spin this one. I fucked up.

Thanks for the correction.

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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/5/2009 11:43:17 PM

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YouTube - Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated - And he is 110% right, as always :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fys3MsKMpms&feature=channel_page

This is funny and also at the same time sad but true. It also explains a lot
when I read some comments on these threads.

And that's just the ones with degrees.

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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/6/2009 4:15:32 AM

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I'm not sure how we got from the bigotry of Bill Maher to Rush Limbaugh's painkiller addiction, but Maher is a pretty public drug person himself, so maybe not a good track to follow?

Which is exactly the point, Maher is very public about it and often speaks for legalization.

Meanwhile you have Limbaugh's blatant hypocrisy.

But I guess it's just another demonstration of how "he is brilliant at what he does".

Which, I guess, is conning gullible people into supporting anything he says, even if they have publicly stated their opposition to that viewpoint.

Limbaugh on Drugs

There's nothing good about drug use. We know it. It destroys individuals. It destroys families. Drug use destroys societies. Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good because we know what happens to people in societies and neighborhoods, which become consumed by them. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up.

What this says to me is that too many whites are getting away with drug use. Too many whites are getting away with drug sales. Too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we're not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too.

--Rush Limbaugh TV show (10/5/95)

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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/6/2009 4:29:50 AM

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What I'm seeing is that many of the outrageous lies that were made about Bush, the outrageous claims, are actually true about this president. Obama also shares many of Bush's faults, and Obama easily outdoes Bush in a lot of Bush's most grievous shortcomings.

Spending, for example. Obama is outspending Bush in just his first few months - which I guess that must be okay now, this insane deficit spending. Obama's got Conservatives in the crosshairs of his Department Of Homeland Security Terrorist watch list, apparently not a big deal either.

The White House appears to be sending union goons out to town halls to bust people's heads, when did Bush ever do anything like that?

I could go on and on...

Speaking of outrageous claims.

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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/6/2009 6:53:57 AM

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Speaking of outrageous claims. ORIGINAL: rulemylife

Have you taken a look at the "factual citations" used to back this one up, Rule? I did...in fact I posted about it. It explains more about the posters than it does about the Obama administration. Unfortunatly, the examination of the last two citations used by Sanity ended up being accidentally deleted from the post. They're the ones that really get to the meat of the issue.

There was a youtube clip in which a woman belonging to the SEIU shoved a video camera out of her face, either intentionally or unintentionally causing the camera to hit the cameraman in the face. Obviously the unions are using small, female goons either because more of them can fit into the White House buses to bust heads or because the unions have an affirmative action program in which small female goons are hired in preference to large male goons who are far more qualified.

Finally, there was another vidio clip of a woman talking about the small female pushing the cameraman's camera in an interview. I think it can be agreed that two clips about the same isolated incident does not make it two incidents.

So, in short, Sanity's "head busting" accusation turns out to be backed by one speech on political tactics, one announcement that a union supported the healthcare reform plan, two videos from websites of dubious reliability (and I'm not partisan in this, I would feel equally dubious about a site that had headlines like "Dick Cheny Actually Alien Sent to Eat Our Brains"), and two video clips of a woman shoving a cameraman during a demonstration. I will limit myself to pointing out that this is hardly "smoking gun" kind of evidence.

I think the sources cited in Sanity's post explain a whole lot more about some people's world view than about administration policies. What is doesn't do is point to any White House plan to send union goons to bust heads.

To quote Barak Obama.....I mean the Joker ..."and people say my jokes are bad".

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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/6/2009 8:06:23 AM

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It would seem that believing someone could be 110% right about anything might denote a lack of education about how percentages work.......

Nevertheless this is largely good news for those of us able to string a sentence together based on reasoned argument deriving from widely accepted facts we have taken the time to learn.

Except of course for the facts (possibly) that no one likes a smartarse and those incapable of verbal formulation so based often tend to resort to ever lower common denominators to make their points.

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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/6/2009 8:53:01 AM

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It's so nice that you finally have something to talk about other than a blowjob Bill Clinton got over a decade ago.

I seem to remember perjury, not a blowjob, being the issue.

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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/6/2009 8:57:49 AM

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It's kinda obvious somethimes that some people get all their news from the New York Times and / or MSNBC, isn't it.

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I seem to remember perjury, not a blowjob, being the issue.

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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/6/2009 9:03:04 AM

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I think the reference to the SEIU goon squads might have more to do with incidents like this one, than whatever you are trying to distract with....

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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/6/2009 9:12:02 AM

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double post somehow

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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/6/2009 9:13:06 AM

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Dick Cheny Actually Alien Sent to Eat Our Brains

You shouldn't have said that, now we'll have to kill you all...

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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/6/2009 9:17:15 AM

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TheHeretic : Loooked like one dude, made another fall down, and the dude in a blue shirt grabbed him, falling down as he did.
What a viscious attack! (sarcasm) and then they all stood around accusing each other of being attacked.

What a bunch of grown ups

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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/6/2009 9:22:58 AM

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Gee, it's almost as if the video I linked to was shot as an incident was coming to a conclusion...

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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/6/2009 9:23:29 AM

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Sanity: Better than Fox's "news".

GotSteel : And if the perjury is denying receiving a blow job, that was received, does that not mean that the impeachment was about a blowjob? Does 1+1 not =2 anymore? And the point of the blowjob question and the "proof" of the dress, was simply to prove he was a sexual deviant capable of sexual harassment on Linda Tripp, which was the actual crux of the impeachment. The accusation was sexual harassment in the workplace, but really, has anyone seen Linda Tripp? WHo would bother there? He was probably just trying to make her feel pretty, and she had never experienced that before. I bet she accuses men in bars of sexual harassment too, now that she hs a new face and boobs.
Personally, I would deny any extramarital sex if it would bring shame and embarrassment to my wife and kid. it's just a blowjob.

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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/6/2009 9:35:53 AM

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Like I wrote in an earlier post, the evidence requires a degree of intellectual honesty, Rich. I'm under no illusion that any amount of evidence will prove anything to certain people...

If you know what I mean.

There is no one so blind as he who will not see, and all that.

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I think the reference to the SEIU goon squads might have more to do with incidents like this one, than whatever you are trying to distract with....

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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/6/2009 9:38:04 AM

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That's highly debatable. In the case of Van Jones, those who weren't watching FOX News or checking Drudge or Collarchat (etc.) remained blissfully ignorant, didn't they.

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Sanity: Better than Fox's "news".

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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/6/2009 9:40:17 AM

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I think the reference to the SEIU goon squads might have more to do with incidents like this one, than whatever you are trying to distract with....
ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Two points, Heritic:

First, there is no evidence no matter how flimsy to link President Obama with the incidents shown or mentioned. So you'll have to explain the logic that gets us from "There were disorderly incidents at a demonstration" to "The president is sending union goon squads to town hall meetings to bust heads."

Second: Goon squads usually entail more than one person at a time, unless it's a very small squad or a very large goon.

How about this: If you don't, without reason, evidence or even he slightest clue to back up the theory, accuse the president of sending out "goon squads" and I won't paint the fact that a handful of conservatives are coming to town meetings with loaded guns prominently displayed as "The republicans are sending assassination squads to shoot progressives at town meetings."

Let's try to keep the discussion in the realm of plausibility at least till lunchtime, shall we?

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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/6/2009 9:40:29 AM

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Sanity: Better than Fox's "news".

GotSteel : And if the perjury is denying receiving a blow job, that was received, does that not mean that the impeachment was about a blowjob? Does 1+1 not =2 anymore? And the point of the blowjob question and the "proof" of the dress, was simply to prove he was a sexual deviant capable of sexual harassment on Linda Tripp, which was the actual crux of the impeachment. The accusation was sexual harassment in the workplace, but really, has anyone seen Linda Tripp? WHo would bother there? He was probably just trying to make her feel pretty, and she had never experienced that before. I bet she accuses men in bars of sexual harassment too, now that she hs a new face and boobs.
Personally, I would deny any extramarital sex if it would bring shame and embarrassment to my wife and kid. it's just a blowjob.

Wasnt it the Judge in the Clinton affair who defined what sexual relations meant?

They asked for a definition of sexual relations. The judge, instead of giving a simple answer, gave him three pages, typed, single line, but neglected to include the word "blowjob". So, by this definition, Clinton answered truthfully, within the legal definition given by the judge.

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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/6/2009 9:42:03 AM

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Can you please tell me where to find the stories of the White House sending union goons to town hall meetings to bust heads? It must have got lost under the story of the anti-healthcare reform protester biting off the finger of a pro-healthcare reform worker.

It was the other way around you liar.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5gs0sE2FQFIraEPiHd0VIF--_TNqQ

"O'Hanlon said the man got into an argument and fist fight, during which he bit off the left little finger of a 65-year-old man who opposed health care reform."<--- Opposed health care reform = Anti-health care reformist.

Any credibility you once had is out the window. How dare you try and construed the facts to work with your argument. By the way, health care is TWO words not one Spinner. Perhaps, you should say factual and truthful statements, and learn the English language before arguing your points.

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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/6/2009 9:45:26 AM

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If you think that what is happening now really qualifies as "union goons busting heads" then you really need to do a bit of reading....some people get shoved at a demonstration, what's the big deal? As much as you would like there to be union goons (or gun-toting looneys from the other side's perspective) intimidating people, it just isn't really happening to any great degree, certainly no more than has been usual for decades.

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