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RE: I am not sure if I should say anything to the commu... - 3/4/2006 1:24:05 PM

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Well said John.
I find it a little odd that if I am a Dom then somehow I am not entitled to be foolish...Hell I enjoy being foolish, its fun...but I guess that being Dom is supposed to trump being fun...oh well, I guess I will have to just claim to be a wannabe, since I am NOT going to give up either.

I believe the point is that mnottertail is being agonisingly coy, dissembling and passive agressive - not that Doms can't have a fun side. It would help if people would consider the entire context of a statement instead of cherry picking snippets of phrases for the purpose of taking issue. That's pretty silly too.

And I second the motion for the hand gun debate to go find it's own thread.

the hand gun debate... DID find it's own thread thanks to erin...

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RE: I am not sure if I should say anything to the commu... - 3/4/2006 1:47:08 PM

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This Dom COULD be a law enforement profesional. We don't know this. Maybe He carries this for his protection when meeting strangers. Just a thought.

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RE: I am not sure if I should say anything to the commu... - 3/4/2006 1:57:39 PM

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silly when some one who claims to be a dom posts nonsense witthout substance.

Could you explain to me why to you a person's orientation has anything to do with this?

Is it OK for a submissive to "post nonsense witthout substance?" Does a switch need to post some substance but not as much as a dom?

Theoretically you want the one "calling the shots," "driving the car," and taking the lead to have his head screwed on straight, so I would say that yes, this is a distinction with difference. Its more alarming to see a "wacked out" dom because you can envision them projecting their influence.

Of course its a truism that all folks should refrain from being nonsensical, but the standards go up for folks in different categories.

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RE: I am not sure if I should say anything to the commu... - 3/4/2006 8:41:53 PM

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Based on all that I have seen in my limited time here, you're quite odd, Ron. Now I also read where you said to not take you seriously, but honestly...you think we don't?
Where you see the places I tell you not to take me seriously, you can make your own choice of doing so or not. Where no such caveat exists, you can do so or not.

You are providing all of us with a classic case of dissembling in the name of "humor", when if fact, you really mean everything you post. You just don't want to own it, so you pass it off as a "joke".
That is a stretch in your imagination. "classic" nothing.
I own everything I post here. 1831+ of 'em no bunch of names, no changing my profile every day, picture on my profile, many people here know my name...........

That is called "passive/aggressive" and that's what I will call you until you can prove to me you aren't.
I don't give the glimmer of a fuck what you call me, and I ain't gonna prove nothing to nobody.... however, you are several symptoms short of passive/agressive and oh so clinically inexperienced to make that diagnosis doc.....
I just find it silly when some one who claims to be a dom (insert your name here) posts nonsense witthout substance.

I mean...be honest. The other post you made saying "fuck me...I am going to name names" is a classic example of passive/agressive behavior no matter how you try to hide it under the second hand guise of "humor".
There was absolutely no humor in that post and it is intimately connected to this one........
Who in their right mind would come here and ask advice about matters of life, death and major change? I mean; you might post an opinion.

I laud anothers concern for their friends. Many times that has led to pure tragedy, because it ain't real help, see?

However; as I understand the scenario a guy hires a special valet to help him park the caddillac in the garage and throughout the entire performance, his gun is laying wadded up in his clothes in innate but very menacing fashion, and horrors of horrors she glimpses it at he dresses........and..........nothing....

I think that covers the salient points, does it not? Then the posting flurry comes and statistics are provided that no statistics prove that homes are safer than not with guns in 'em. This whole thing being a culmination of some other cross-postings to which I replied as well, but they got pulled and mods are involved and emails are flying around and everybody is bitching at everybody else and we are now at the point that the talking heads come in and hip everyone to the personality flaws that are so apparent in the others, and generally castigating us ne'er do wells.

Well, back to my 1831+ posts. There were many more, and some that I had worked hours on and sent giving sound advice that were pulled by Mods, sometimes whole threads........(if I told you why they would pull this, suffice it to say I accepted their judgements without rancor.)

So for you; this is one of those posts you don't wanna take seriously, but also for you take all my other posts seriously.

Anybody else......I am jus' me.

Ron

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RE: I am not sure if I should say anything to the commu... - 3/5/2006 2:40:13 PM

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You know Ron, I certainly don't think that you need to explain yourself, your posting style or your opinions to anyone.
If they don't like what you write then they have every opportunity to block you.
I enjoy your posts.
And you're one of the few here that know my real name.

edited for crappy spelling...again

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RE: I am not sure if I should say anything to the commu... - 3/5/2006 3:15:11 PM

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you're quite odd, Ron.

wytchywoman

~sends wytchywoman a Ron to English dictionary~

LOL

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RE: I am not sure if I should say anything to the commu... - 3/5/2006 3:58:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: Aileen68

You know Ron, I certainly don't think that you need to explain yourself, your posting style or your opinions to anyone.
If they don't like what you write then they have every opportunity to block you.
I enjoy your posts.
And you're one of the few here that know my real name.

edited for crappy spelling...again

I agree with you Aileen....we will always have those who don't like what we say..."Block"
There loss. Ron, brings a lot of good information and humor to the board.
Good post!

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RE: BTW The reason I asked was because - 3/5/2006 5:42:17 PM

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I met someone one on one from this site, and it wasn't an ideal situation for me. Why should I bash them because I feel like a fool? I chalked it up to experience, and moved on.

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RE: BTW The reason I asked was because - 3/5/2006 9:19:18 PM

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crystalamber? did they steal from you?

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RE: BTW The reason I asked was because - 3/6/2006 3:47:33 AM

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crystalamber? did they steal from you?

Does that matter?
Like crystal amber said: she chalked it up to experience and moved on. Why waste time and look even more foolish by trying to tell everyone your story here. Unless the Facts from both sides are known doesn't much matter what some one says most times it just looks like bashing.

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RE: BTW The reason I asked was because - 3/7/2006 5:35:12 AM

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crystalamber? did they steal from you?

Does that matter?
Like crystal amber said: she chalked it up to experience and moved on. Why waste time and look even more foolish by trying to tell everyone your story here. Unless the Facts from both sides are known doesn't much matter what some one says most times it just looks like bashing.

I agree,doesnt matter the circumstances.The OP admitted to not being there and not seeing it in person.
Though she is sure its him,in which case perhaps the Mods should be told.Maybe she should warn people she knows are going to meet him.Maybe she should find out for sure(not just on the word of a friend) what happened before accusing someone of being a liar and thief.Maybe....

I too like crystalamber have met people from here that didnt fit what I wanted,I move on and forget it.
If they were a danger I would feel a responsibility to say something to a Mod.I'm not about bashing someone but I am about the safety of O/others.The bad apples are the ones that make the rest US look rotten,I for one think they should be thrown away,not left to rot the apple next to it.

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RE: BTW The reason I asked was because - 3/7/2006 5:46:27 AM

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There was actually another thread from the original writer of this one... it was in that one... or maybe even this one where she admits that she was actaully the girl in the story.

What this whole thread boils down to is one thing... no matter what your reasons or intensions are, you can't go around naming people because it violates the TOS.

Stories are most likely one sided. Facts can be convoluted to the point that multiple interpretations can be formed by those reading it. There are even times when the claims made can be completely false (hell hath no furry like a woman scorned & men tend to follow the story line of the Fox & the Sour Grapes)

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RE: BTW The reason I asked was because - 3/7/2006 2:56:10 PM

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I met someone one on one from this site, and it wasn't an ideal situation for me. Why should I bash them because I feel like a fool? I chalked it up to experience, and moved on.

crystal amber

That was never the OPs situation. She asked where, how and, most importantly, IF she could / should share information about a member of CM who she felt was a crook and possibly a physical danger. She has her answer. Not here, ever.

Most of the elaboration on the boards seems to come from people making sweeping presumptions that are in no way supported by and at times almost contradictory to the initial post. People comment on coments about comments, and the original topic gets totally lost.

I am guilty of that sometimes too, so I am not picking on you especially crystalamber. Just a general observation and pet peve.

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RE: BTW The reason I asked was because - 3/7/2006 8:12:07 PM

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That is called "passive/aggressive" and that's what I will call you until you can prove to me you aren't. And I don't think you can at this point.

Good call wytchy. To abuse Churchill "Rarely on the forums of chat have so many words said so little about so much".

In regards to the OP, if the lynch mob will allow - ArtistInTN respectfully enquired as to whether and how one might report a member of CM who seems to have been involved in fraud (theft of services, as it is called in Canada).

While many of you may find tattling distasteful (a hold-over reaction from grade school perhaps) I would agree with PenelopePitstop that the OP showed courage and concern as well as discretion to bring the question here. That she has stuck around despite the abuse, to clarify and support her position, shows that far from being a "jilted lover type" she has an abiding desire to both understand how this community works and to provide it with a valuable service.

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ORIGINAL: Zensee

Most of the elaboration on the boards seems to come from people making sweeping presumptions that are in no way supported by and at times almost contradictory to the initial post. People comment on coments about comments, and the original topic gets totally lost.

Just a general observation and pet peve.

OK, Winston.......

Initial post? Perhaps. I know of another thread where she posted a rant on this subject, has changed the incedentals of the story several times, (this shortly after the Mod posted the TOS call) and it was her it wasn't her. Additionally, she was told simply to read the screen where the profile is, There is a report button there......... it is kinda simple. My estimation, the original topic should not only be lost, it should never have seen the light of day. It is common sometimes for the first few posts of anybody to be a little out of round, and I am sorry so many get jumped on right away, in fact if one peruses the many threads here on the boards. there are several people of great stature bemoaning this fact. Now, this is a sex site, while small clumps of the community know each other intimately and face to face, but in the main we do our best to tolerate (in individual fashion) to accomodate each others kinks (and I mean that in a strictly non-sexual way, sometimes that means we bite our tongues, and just let shit pass. Sometimes that means we come unglued and crab at each other.......... Had you read the entirety of the post including the cross-posts you would have seen that this entire diatribe, its foremath and aftermath has been played out ad nauseam and countless times. The vagarity, the motile nature of the allegations and the situation lead many of the jaded type kinksters out here to view the OP in askance fashion.

Don't think there is anyone here, in the main; that for the greater good, have a fundamental abhorrance for 'tattling'. We, as a whole have a jaundiced eye towards hinky, accusitory posters, in total. I have read your 57 posts and the preponderance of them are in honorable but misguided defense of half-conversations.........(Would that the one sided postings were ALL true........nothing to discern here, people move along, you see?)

Futhermore; and tangentally to this rant, If you would care to peruse (even casually.....) the TOS or the forum headers herein, you will see that nothing ..... I don't believe you heard me..........NOTHING says that you have to post anything even remotely agreeable or remotely in concert with the OP or subsequent posters. As I stated on the other thread now pulled, it is simply left to the Moderators to decide when it gets out of hand and what the remedy will be......many times it is a place where they start kicking ass and taking names, to tell you to return to topic.............

So, since you dismiss me so easily with Churchill in paraphrase, I will stay on topic and paraphrase him for you..........

"The hon. Gentlewoman is always intervening. On this occasion she did not even hop off her perch."

You thought I was gonna do the Madam, I am drunk today thing, now; didn't 'cha?

LOL,

Ron

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RE: BTW The reason I asked was because - 3/11/2006 1:49:36 PM

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Ron, the name is Zensee, not Winston. Thank you.

What I distilled from your missive is that you felt I was discourteous towards you. That I dismissed you. Your paternal tone suggests you took my words rather personally. Despite your attempt to mask your anger in your lecture it still managed to boil to the surface. Personally, I find it more helpful to deal with feelings head on. The circuitous route seems to make matters more complicated than they really are.

My dig was at your post, not you, although I know well it is hard to separate oneself from one's works. It was an agreement with an observation made about a single post you offered in an off-topic (sorry, tangential) discussion. Offences may appear enlarged through the lens of the ego.

Perhaps posting opinions on the quality of other people’s opinions here is in bad taste, rude or just plain annoying but, like tangents, it is a risk we have to take if a thread is to have the room it needs to breathe. Of course there is a difference between fair comment and personal attack, as there is between a side discussion and an outright hijack.

Like art or pornography, it is hard to define it but we know it when we see it. Since that line both migrates and is fundamentally different for each of us we must certainly trust that the Moderators will guard it fairly for us but we also hope that they will allow us all a little leeway too.

Granted I did not exhaustively research cross posts or posting histories; life intervened. So I was not aware of the alternate universe that MstrssPassion recently revealed. But we all have our unguarded moments and I am sure that with your almost 1900 posts to my 60 or so, you have made a few misses yourself. God and you both know that I have. I apologise that I have not returned your courtesy and parsed your collected works, as you apparently did mine (should I be flattered or a bit creeped out?). I have seen a variety of your posts over time and found, as with most people, that sometimes I agree and sometimes I don’t.

And if the preponderance of my own posts on CM are “but misguided defence(s) of half-conversations” well, sometimes one can’t help but be in the majority. Even so, I trust they were mostly closer to topic than a certain meandering gun rant was to the question “To rat or not to rat”. While the TOS may not expressedly forbid it, changing subjects in a dedicated thread perverts the purpose of topics it would seem. Some might call it discourteous.

Z.

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RE: I am not sure if I should say anything to the commu... - 3/14/2006 1:09:19 AM

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greeting to all

i do not understand something is wrong here, first he did not mention this person name, when he should had there is a reason for him to write this something is wrong with this person,why does a male need to carry a gun when he is going you a submissvie woman? does anyone but me something is wrong i was threatne by male I am lucky he does not know where i live.

second what is it ok for the bdsm community to think it is ok but if this were anyother person the police would be call and ask him why are you carry a gun to a first time meeting with a submissive woman.

tthird he use he readl sn and was not scare to use it , could it be that he may be telling the thruth i am a dominant woman i take care when i go to mean a submissives males but i do notcarry a gun something is wrong here everyone, why not look into to this unless i am wrong has there been many of this post of dangerous males doms that have come up? if not someone please look into this someone may be hurt!

wishing all well

mons /jane

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RE: I am not sure if I should say anything to the commu... - 3/15/2006 7:11:48 AM

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why does a male need to carry a gun when he is going you a submissvie woman?

Mons,
I cant find the post, but I posted about a male sub who went to meet a Mistress he met online. He ended up with broken bones and a ruptured spleen, all because he refused to have sex with her. Don't make the mistake of thinking that just because he was a male and she was female that he was physically safe.
What would have happened if the female was a man-hating woman? There are countless things that could have happened to him (or her for that matter). Gender has nothing to do with this. Taking precautions to assure your own safety, male OR female should be top priority when you meet someone for the first time.

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RE: I am not sure if I should say anything to the commu... - 3/18/2006 6:58:40 PM

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Its a fact the 75% of all statistics are made up on the spot. lol

When i first played at my house with my Dom, i had a knife under the bed as a weapon.
The same knife was later used against me, so that bit came true. It was delicious

littleone

Im not a gun person, as i know how to use them, and maybe im a bit thick, but a gun locked in one cupboard and ammo in another seems like a wet fart of self defense idea to me, unless your intruder alerts you that they are due to arrive in such and such a time.

So instead i have a rottweiller and a german shepherd. The original post is not worth responding to, but the off topic discussion was.

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RE: I am not sure if I should say anything to the commu... - 4/7/2006 2:03:29 AM

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irshmist greeting

This is not a very old post but I read you answer to that
person concern. It reminded me of when i work
as a language and speak teacher ( lol i know my spelling is
so bad some days but my command of the english speak is
wonderful) but anyway it remind me of when childern would come
to some teacher and say " tommy or sally punched me in my back)
The teacher who is to watching the childern at play would tell this child
" stop tattling on other and go play" this is the reason we have so
many teens shooting up school they were not protect as little darlings.
Now irsh I did not mean to bash, flame or bait but it is something so important
if someone comes to ask if they SHOULD say something? I for one
feel is there a need to carry a gun on a date? If so why i wonder if
he lives in a place where it is needed? I would not go out with anyone
who carries a gun I maybe trying to tpye and shoot him in the groin then he would
use it on me. thank you

wishing all well

Mons/Jane

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RE: I am not sure if I should say anything to the commu... - 4/7/2006 8:43:10 AM

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Hmmm, if I were you...I would not go out of my way to make a bad name for myself by 'tattling' on others.

/shrugs

That's just me though

Well 1st off lots of people have a CWP (concealed weapon permits) and are just protecting them selves. I am one of them. If some one is dangerous that could be a different story. I say meet people and get to know over time before being strapped down just makes sense to me. As of telling some one that is a slippery slope, if you do and can not prove then it is character assignation and your word against his. This makes you look like a tattle tail, or disgruntled.

so I agree here with IrishMist.
Chose your partners carefully, play smarter not harder
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