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ORIGINAL: sissylover22

Good for you. Kiss her feet or massage her, then you as the dom are going to subvert your authority. Kiss her feet or massage her and COMMON SENSE will tell you you're serving her and your authority as the dom will be subverted.

Common sense, that's all you need to exercise here. Sure we can do whatever we want, but when you have a certain essence you want to maintain (and I'm assuming the doms want to maintain an air of dominance), then you better pay attention to how you conduct yourself and maintain your reputation.

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ORIGINAL: sissylover22

Kissing feet is symbolic of worship and respect whether you're too proud to admit it or not. If you kiss the feet of your submissive, you're a switch and you are lowering yourself beneath her while performing such an act. So you like to serve her too with feet kissing and back rubs, nothing wrong with that unless you're a dom 24/7. Sure you can kiss her feet, give her a nice hour long massage, even bow to her if it makes you happy, but why would you? Common sense says it's best to watch how you conduct yourself if you want to maintain your dominance in your girl's eyes. There are things that you just shouldn't engage in if you can about the structure and dynamic of your dom/sub relationship. It's common sense. If you want to be the dominant one, stay away from doing submissive acts to your submissive girl, unless you don't mind being viewed as submissive and worship and servant-like. What's next, are you going to bow to her right before you kiss her feet?

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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex

Oh, and when she brings my coffee and newspaper in the morning, can I keep saying "thanks, sweetie" like I always do or do I have to snarl, "bout time, you fucking cunt whore!"

Cuz that might just freak the kids out.

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ORIGINAL: SimplyIsaac

Funny stuff, I admit. In the spirit of taking things equally more out of context, I'm picturing you getting on all fours and giving head to her big toe with your morning coffee and bacon. Bet that would freak the kids out too.

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ORIGINAL: mbes
I'd be much more likely to question the dominant tendencies of someone who refrained from an activity due to how I or others might see it, than one who uses my body to give himself pleasure.

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ORIGINAL: Krissy1



My thought exactly. If my dominant hesitates to follow his own urges (would it be desire to lick, rub or do whatever he pleases to my body he ownes) because of somebody's (even my) opinion, I'd translate it as weakness or confusion.

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ORIGINAL: JonasTellas


I don't think this has been mentioned but why would you think your opinion on your dom shouldn't matter? Do you not feel doms have a certain standard to follow for themselves if they are going to take a life and control it? I think the dom should care about what his sub thinks about his behavior. If he all of a sudden starts to be abusive, becomes an alcoholic...

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ORIGINAL: JonasTellas

I don't think this has been mentioned but why would you think your opinion on your dom shouldn't matter? Do you not feel doms have a certain standard to follow for themselves if they are going to take a life and control it? I think the dom should care about what his sub thinks about his behavior.  his actions. I would hope my dom values the perspectives his subs bring.

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So to say it in other ways, whatever your doms preferences are that are related to his dominance, you are to have no opinion? Is that what you mean? I follow you, but what if a doms preference was to start becoming more domineering and abusive? What if the doms preference was to start binge drinking because he can and he's the dom? What if his preference was to start serving you? What if a doms preference was to start catering to his submissive so that she ends up being served by him? As a woman who is submissive, are you going to say your feelings about your dom turning submissive should not matter because it's his "preference"? His behavior is going to have consequences, or at least they should. He should know that if he wants to keep his sub happy, he is going to have to conduct himself in a way that's going to keep subs. If I give myself to him and he starts conducting his actions like someone else, or something else, then there's going to be a problem. How he acts, what he does affects me,period. And I hold him to a standard too. Maybe I'm not understanding you but it seems you feel it's not your right to judge his dom preferences. But honestly, if he all of a sudden turned submissive on you, you would be fine with that? If this is true, then is it right to assume you care about just being in a relationship with your dom regardless of what he decides to do? I don't know,but for me, if my dom started to act submissive to me, kiss my feet, cater to my needs,I would leave him. I'm looking to serve, not be served. But that's just me.

• Understandable for doms to 'worship feet' (or, more broadly, 'fetishize feet') within some kinda context:
  
  Darcyandthedark, Makrieth, DesFIP, sweetsub1957, daintydimples, AquaticSub, AnimusRex, masterlink65, DavanKael, ChatDuBengale, Aswad, Mercnbeth (beth, I think), Level, RedMagic1, Huntertn, GYPSYMAMBO, WyldHrt, leadership527, CreativeDominant
  
  
• Specific subset who simply asserted some variation on "actions don't dictate dominance or submission" without specifying the foot scenario:
  
  Acer49, Toppingfrmbottom, BossyShoeBitch, thishereboi, ncbabe, mbes, Krissy1
  
  
• Foot worship is inherently submissive & variants:
  
  sissylover22, MarcEsadrian, Ownednoperated, porcelaine (graduated scale), JonasTellas,
  
  
• No clear vote one way or the other:
  
  ranja, LaTigresse, LadyClaudiaVan, mnottertail, IronBear, welcomerain,

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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt
No one is saying that a Dom's (or sub's) actions cannot destroy the dynamic in any number of ways, or that the actions of a Dom aren't judged by His sub within their relationship. The argument is that some here seem to think that there is a specific list of acts that are so inherently "UnDomly", that they will erode and eventually detroy any D/s dynamic, no matter the context. Personally, I think that is horseshit, but others disagree.

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ORIGINAL: SimplyIsaac

Finer point: said people readily agree master has the right to engage in any act, but it is the psychology behind the act that I know I and others here have addressed. To get even more on-topic, the subject of the OP is foot worship. For some (and I would argue most), a master worshipping his submissive's foot is going to cause some degree of consternation about the relationship dynamic between a dominant male and his submissive female. You may want to call that "horse shit", and that is your opinion to have, but (obviously) many find it flies in the face of reason. I say, rightly so. This isn't rocket science.

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ORIGINAL: DemonKia

Oh, & Isaac, dude. A sense of irony would really help you, especially if you insist on reading my postings. I positively exude post-modern hyper-irony, especially in my textual works. & you're more than a little irony-deaf, apparently. There's been several times now when you've taken quite seriously something I said mockingly or otherwise in (what I thought was clearly) a jesting manner .. . . . . Either that, or maybe you should just 'Hide' my posts, lol . . . .. . . ..

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ORIGINAL: DemonKia
Luckily, people's individual kinks are not up for democratic vote or common sense understanding of what oughta be . . .

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ORIGINAL: DemonKia

& yet, Isaac, 4 out of 5 participants in this thread voted the other way . . .

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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt

If you re-read the thread, you will find that most of the flames are in response to those who seek to make "absolute" rules. The fact that things like "back rubs" and "bringing a drink" have been added to the subject of the OP only highlight the main issue, IMO.

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I probably won't earn much favor for saying this, but if the cliques of this forum were to be arbiters of what is right and wrong, those of us who do not measure our way of life out in "kinks" would all be in for a pretty pointless and confusing ride in the end.

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It probably highlights the main issue for you, but including those examples was unfortunate, as it is clear simply giving a back rub or bringing a drink in of itself bears no near universally recognized inference. The same cannot be said of foot worship, which is the subject of the OP.