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RE: Where do old subs go? - 11/4/2009 7:40:21 AM

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. Older women aren't common on this website because after a certain age (40?)

because older women were never into being dominant.

surely you fukkin jest?

Send me a spread sheet...indicating..each continant..country...state..province..territory..etc..and HOW many older woman..by D..s..etc are on here...as per YOUR research.
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RE: Where do old subs go? - 11/4/2009 8:04:20 AM

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What did I start? Do all threads take off like this? Anyway, I just updated my profile, (I didn't realize it was blank and thank the 200 or so folks who pointed that out).

'Old sub looking to get laid'

Now things should get moving.

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RE: Where do old subs go? - 11/4/2009 8:13:23 AM

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woman, not women in your profile since you put 'a' in front. do you have any special skills? cooking, cleaning, auto repair, carpentry, do you read poetry, and so on? cuz it can't ALL be about the sex.

good to see you, gordie!!! Keep up the positive mental attitude, and I see you do possess a sense of humor.......

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RE: Where do old subs go? - 11/4/2009 8:28:11 AM

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ORIGINAL: gpeterse

What did I start? Do all threads take off like this? Anyway, I just updated my profile, (I didn't realize it was blank and thank the 200 or so folks who pointed that out).

'Old sub looking to get laid'

Now things should get moving.

you'll have more luck with a dose of Ex-Lax

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RE: Where do old subs go? - 11/4/2009 8:30:58 AM

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women over 50 just don't feel comfortable using the web, or maybe it's because older women were never into being dominant.

Most of us guys that want older dommes are out of luck as long as the available choices are so limited.

speaking as an OLDER DOMME (50 & proud of it!) ... you are quite FULL OF SHIT! so yeah, I plucked the above out of your post ... mainly because you just screwed yourself there, buddy! you'll be lucky to get an older Domme interested in you after those statements!

ROFLMFAO!!

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RE: Where do old subs go? - 11/4/2009 8:34:24 AM

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ORIGINAL: gpeterse

What did I start? Do all threads take off like this? Anyway, I just updated my profile, (I didn't realize it was blank and thank the 200 or so folks who pointed that out).

'Old sub looking to get laid'

Now things should get moving.

you'll have more luck with a dose of Ex-Lax

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speaking as an OLDER DOMME (50 & proud of it!) ... you are quite FULL OF SHIT!

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RE: Where do old subs go? - 11/4/2009 8:51:36 AM

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LOLOLOLOL!!! dunno if the exlax would be enough ... maybe the whole box?

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RE: Where do old subs go? - 11/4/2009 9:01:05 AM

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What did I start? Do all threads take off like this?

Yes...they generally do.

Anyway, I just updated my profile, (I didn't realize it was blank and thank the 200 or so folks who pointed that out).

Seriously...you made it too easy not to point it out.

'Old sub looking to get laid'

Now things should get moving.

You would do well in listening to Ron (mnottertail)

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woman, not women in your profile since you put 'a' in front. do you have any special skills? cooking, cleaning, auto repair, carpentry, do you read poetry, and so on? cuz it can't ALL be about the sex.

The real question is...did you listen to Ms. Franklin while writing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IP9h40z0sk&feature=fvw

Good luck!

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RE: Where do old subs go? - 11/4/2009 9:10:44 AM

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women over 50 just don't feel comfortable using the web, or maybe it's because older women were never into being dominant.

Most of us guys that want older dommes are out of luck as long as the available choices are so limited.

speaking as an OLDER DOMME (50 & proud of it!) ... you are quite FULL OF SHIT! so yeah, I plucked the above out of your post ... mainly because you just screwed yourself there, buddy! you'll be lucky to get an older Domme interested in you after those statements! ROFLMFAO!!

I think it's more the 'married and cheating' part that has a good number of females not interested.

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RE: Where do old subs go? - 11/4/2009 9:29:21 AM

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They probably dig a hole..crawl into it and die..at least I'm going to do it in 7 years or so

Git on over here, then, wench, and we'll get seven useful years outta ya yet!

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RE: Where do old subs go? - 11/4/2009 10:14:02 AM

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What did I start? Do all threads take off like this? Anyway, I just updated my profile, (I didn't realize it was blank and thank the 200 or so folks who pointed that out).

'Old sub looking to get laid'

Now things should get moving.

That is pretty humorous, but I did perv your profile and frankly you still have very little in there about who you are, what you are really looking for in a relationship, and most importantly what -you bring to a relationship- with a dominant Lady. Honestly that will improve your chances of getting responses and interest considerably. Welcome to the forums.

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RE: Where do old subs go? - 11/4/2009 10:14:58 AM

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Old subs never die...they just flatten out on the floor like a rug....

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RE: Where do old subs go? - 11/4/2009 10:34:55 AM

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What did I start? Do all threads take off like this? Anyway, I just updated my profile, (I didn't realize it was blank and thank the 200 or so folks who pointed that out).

'Old sub looking to get laid'

Now things should get moving.

Actually, the boldfaced slogan might be good to pop into your profile as evidence that you have a sense of humor. You now have two paragraphs that say nothing up there, which is not a big improvement.

I assume that by this point in your life you have written a resume or two or filled out a few job applications. You know, when you write a resume, you slant that resume so as to make you look perfect for the specific employer or position that you are applying to, right? Use the same principle here on your profile.

I'll even help you here, being a professional writer. Answer some questions first:

(1) What exactly are you looking for? You want a dominant woman, OK, but beside having a vagina and a whip, what constitutes your ideal woman, and why? A few sentences explaining your vision of The Perfect Domme would be a good addition.

(2) What exactly do you have to offer a domme? What is it about you that would entice a dominant to have you kneel at her feet, fetch her tea, mow her lawn, or whatever? What kind of service do you propose offering to a domme? Do you just want sex, or are you interested in service? Do you have a sense of humor? Can you fix things? Are you a shiatsu expert, or trained in pedicure? You HAVE To tell viewers why they should ever want to meet you.

(3) Who are you? What about you as a person makes you fun to be with in a non-sexual situation? What would you do on a vanilla date? What kind of hobbies do you enjoy? Even the horniest of us can't stay conjoined at the loins more than a couple of hours out of each day, so illustrate what it is about you that will make you interesting to have around the other 20 hours!

In answering these questions, just ramble. Free-form, let text flow onto a page or your word processor. Write lots!

Once you have the questions answered, go back and read what you wrote. Now you can word-smith this text into some concise, readable, enticing advertisement of who you are, what you want, and what you have to offer.

Next, think about a one-sentence lead-in that will entice a reader to click through to your full profile and see more about you. Make it a sentence that says something about you that would make a person want to know more.

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RE: Where do old subs go? - 11/4/2009 10:45:46 AM

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ORIGINAL: OttersSwim
I did perv your profile and frankly you still have very little in there about who you are, what you are really looking for in a relationship, and most importantly what -you bring to a relationship- with a dominant Lady. Honestly that will improve your chances of getting responses and interest considerably. Welcome to the forums.

OP,
I very much agree with Otter's comments. I highly recommend you begin your profile by saying something about what you have to offer a woman as a companion and her submissive by telling them something about yourself, your hobbies, things you do for fun, your interests, what you do for a living, your goals in life, etc. Also say something about the kind of woman you're looking to meet and what you want out of a relationship with her (e.g.: are you a looking for a total power exchange or a partial one, are you a slave or a submissive, are you seeking monogamous, poly, part-time or eventual 24/7, or dor you want other commitments?). You need to recognize that your your profile is a way of marketing or advertising yourself and need to use it as a tool to make yourself stand out from all the other submissives they'll see who live in your area.

Your profile is the first thing a woman will likely look at when she receives a CM message from you. If it doesn't have any content or something of interest in it to her, she may not even read your message. As an additional tip, you can utilize your journal to provide her with more information and insight about you and your life as it occurs; another way of marketing yourself that can pique a woman's interest and cause her to take a further look at your profile. When you see she's done that, you might want to take that as a sign she may be interested and initiate contact by writing to her.

As they say, you need to have the right bait to catch a fish. At the moment, people are telling you that yours isn't sufficient to perk their interest.

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RE: Where do old subs go? - 11/4/2009 11:12:43 AM

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You are probably misinterpreting the problem. Most of the women on this website are younger than 30 because they are pros. Older women aren't common on this website because after a certain age (40?) it just isn't marketable to be a pro. As we all know, if men do the hiring they are going to choose younger women.

I don't know what world you live in, but most Dommes in my community are at least in their 30's and typically in their 40's or 50's! I have no idea what being a pro even has to do with this thread since I think we're talking about a man who wants a relationship with a lifestyle Domme. He also happened to have made the mistake of visiting a 20 year old pro. Why he even mentioned that, I'm not totally certain except perhaps to say he found that unsatisfying and wanted a woman closer to his own age.

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I'm not sure why older women that are non pros don't inhabit this website in greater numbers. Maybe it's because women over 50 just don't feel comfortable using the web, or maybe it's because older women were never into being dominant.

Take a closer look and you'll see plenty of them. Whether or not you'll be what they're looking for is entirely another matter.

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There is also another factor. Dominant women often have desires that are more masculine, which means they look towards younger play toys. Most of us guys that want older dommes are out of luck as long as the available choices are so limited.

With that kind of pessimism, you sound a lot like the OP.

Every woman is unique. As such, Her tastes in what she's looking for in a man will also be specific to Her. Just like in the vanilla world, expecting to find the perfect match overnight isn't very realistic. It takes time and a willingness to put yourself out there for something to happen. Just as not any man will do for a Domme, IMO, not just any Domme should do for a submissive male. Both need to find the right match for things to work out.

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RE: Where do old subs go? - 11/4/2009 12:17:57 PM

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ORIGINAL: GYPSYMAMBO

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ORIGINAL: azjojoba

. Older women aren't common on this website because after a certain age (40?)

because older women were never into being dominant.

Send me a spread sheet...indicating..each continant..country...state..province..territory..etc..and HOW many older woman..by D..s..etc are on here...as per YOUR research.
If you can't..then you will be put in the corner..
by on old DOMME

I don't have time to do a complete study as you suggest, although it would be interesting to do so. I ran some stats on my area in Arizona. I counted sub men looking for dom women, and dom women looking for sub men. I counted all the entries who have gone online within the last 30 days (which filters them as active).

Here are the results:

Age Range     W    M
20 -30          25    110
30-40           34    106
40-50 25    120
50-60           17 80
60-70             2     15

This backs up my claim that most women who use this website are young, although there were more up to age 40 then I would have thought. I assume that's because pro dommes can do business over the age of 30, unlike regular prostitutes.

Both men and women totals drop after the age of 40, but in all age categories there are more men than women. Over the age of 40 there are 100 men looking for 20 women. Those are really lousy odds for the men, especially considering that dominant women display male types of behavior like choosing younger play toys. The few women here over the age of 50 have a cornucopia of choices of men just slightly younger.

Conclusion: this website will work very well for women 50+ but for men it's a far worse story.

Does this mean I don't have to go to the corner?

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RE: Where do old subs go? - 11/4/2009 12:38:15 PM

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Congratulations! You have discovered that more males than females are on internet dating sites.

The male/female ratio of online dating

(Taken from the article)

What's going on in the real world is reflected in the virtual world of online dating. In fact, it's skewed worse than in the real world, because online dating sites attract a much greater percentage of people who have trouble finding dates. So not only will there be more men, there will be more undesirable (for whatever reasons) members of both sexes. Men who use online dating services will initially try to contact the few women they are interested in. But because the desirable women receive more emails than they can respond to, male subscribers eventually figure out that they have to send out massive numbers of emails because the response rate is so low. So we wind up in the situation we're in now. Female subscribers to online dating services receive more emails than they can respond to, and male subscribers send out large numbers of emails and rarely get a response.

And these findings were taken from a source (Match.com) that had nothing to do with kink. There are absolutely more male submissives out there than there are female Dominants. Combine the two factors and it's definitely going to be an advantage to females on places like CM.

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RE: Where do old subs go? - 11/4/2009 12:42:28 PM

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Older women not being dominant - hmmm. Never been accused of not being dominant before and I must be one of the older Dommes on here (65) lol. Not looking for a very much younger play toy either. This website works well for me!

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RE: Where do old subs go? - 11/4/2009 12:47:52 PM

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Know what makes it even worse? Some of us female subs would looooooove to have a Domme. No kidding. And my profile is adorable. And so am I.
I cook, I clean compulsively, I'm obsessively well organized, and I'm familiar with the equipment. I can do a decent massage. I do as I'm told.
Try putting something similar to that in your profile, describing yourself. Gotta be a better shot than "Old sub looking to get laid." Hell, we're ALL looking for that. :)

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RE: Where do old subs go? - 11/4/2009 12:50:50 PM

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Congratulations! You have discovered that more males than females are on internet dating sites.

The male/female ratio of online dating

That's a good link and it makes total sense. My theory is that collarme is even more skewed than most dating sites because women over 50 don't tend to be dommes. I probably didn't even know about domme women until I started getting on the internet in the 90's. It's definitely a generational thing.

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