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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/9/2009 8:55:55 PM   
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Ok so sure me it bugs me when people say you're not helping yourself and I know I am and I have driven myself to sickness, and the dr is now worried about me after a week on meds that were meant to help me and I get defensive and try to put my shell on an then it's to late, you're inside my skin.

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Me think she doth protest too much... For someone who continues to proclaim that you do not care what anyone on here thinks you sure do spend a great deal of time justifying, arguing, and explaining yourself. If you really did not care you would not spend any time doing any of this...
Just saying,
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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/9/2009 9:01:27 PM   
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Linna, that was the case with one lady and she was going through detox with no help at all after two years of being in a bottle,and she was very fragil and she could be around others but she couldn't handle talking and I hugged her held her hand and let her tremble like a leaf, and then I quietly held out my stuffed dinosaur to her and she clutched him for a while, and when she gave him back her trembling had stopped.

I didn't have to do more than just let her admit she was fragil and could be around me and others but we had to be quiet and tread softly if you will because her nerves were shot, and when it got to loud for her in there just like it was to loud for me I was her buffer and held her hand. She later said that my willingness to not talk to not try to cheer her up to just let her be afraid and know I was afraid too but I'd put aside my fear and sit with her  her just my presence and my stuffed toy helped a lot.



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there were people there who were there for alcohol withdrawal,

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/9/2009 9:17:09 PM   
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I didn't over generalize that there are loud scary screamers who go off at all hours un predictably, but not EVERY patient is scary, you're right:)

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Therefore, your overgeneralization of paitent behaviors were too broad, erroneous, and inaccurate.



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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/9/2009 9:26:08 PM   
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*loves my Kali more than I can say*

Signed,

Red,
mother of a bipolar child
daughter of clinically depressed parents
friend to many who are dx'ed with various maladies
personal dx: anxiety disorder mixed with depression

I am in great company, and don't feel any better or any worse than the next "crazy" person.


If youre crazy and ya know it clap your hands!

If youre crazy and ya know it clap your hands!

If youre crazy and ya know it and ya really want to show it,

If youre crazy and ya know it clap your hands!



Crazy and proud!

And proud to know the crazy, genuis, insghtful,learned from life the hard way( but still able to connect spiritually with people) crazy kooks here!


My friends mom, who I have known my whole life spent many years in and out of psych wards. She is one of the coolest people I know. You would never have known her depressive disorder being in her presence. She always use to say,"I'm not crazy, I'm mentally ill.

Thankfully at her age and after coming to terms and realizing she is a lesbian, finding a wonderful partner. She is quite well. Although hitting menopause seemed to help with the imbalances. Im sure she is still on meds. And by golly, she is just one of the funnest people I know and at 69 her inner 12 year old comes through. I wish I could have been at a slumber party with her when she was that age!

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/9/2009 9:38:03 PM   
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Pure.....In case no one has told you this lately Thank You so much for what You do for Your brother..... I know You are not the only one... I know there are countless others.. I know there are mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, friends, aunts, uncles, who everyday get up and take care of a special needs person.... I personally can not imagine how difficult it must be to have to daily be such a self-less person. {And I'm told I'm pretty dang self-less.LOL}. I can not imagine how difficult it must be to just want to not be the adult all the time..to want to sit down some where..to just be done...to just have had enough...
For what you do to make their life easier.....For what you do to make my job easier...For what you do to make my world easier.....For what you do to make me be able to believe in the humanity of people....I Love You!! And APPRECIATE YOU!!!!
With Humblest Regard,
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Pure, Holly Red and I can(and many more) tell you that special needs kids(or kids in grown bodies) are miraculous people. Often insightful, giving us gems they dont even realize. Whether smart or not they can all be wise simply by seeing things their way.

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/9/2009 9:44:56 PM   
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Pure, Holly Red and I can(and many more) tell you that special needs kids(or kids in grown bodies) are miraculous people. Often insightful, giving us gems they dont even realize. Whether smart or not they can all be wise simply by seeing things their way.


*warm fuzzies* 

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/9/2009 9:50:38 PM   
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If youre crazy and ya know it clap your hands!

If youre crazy and ya know it clap your hands!

If youre crazy and ya know it and ya really want to show it,

If youre crazy and ya know it clap your hands!



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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/10/2009 1:10:52 AM   
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Thank you, pixie and kyttyn, for sharing part of your lives. 

I think the biggest thing I've learned from this thread (and it certainly has nothing to do with the OP) is that there are lots of courageous people here, lots of loving people here, lots of knowledgeable people here...  we have a common thread that runs through us... we love or we are the ones who have seen the blackness of the pit, and have tried our best to get them or ourselves back into the sunlight. 


Red,
You're right this thread is very personal to so many people but I also think it made alot of people myself included realize that even among this "community" that I wasn't alone in my experiences.

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/10/2009 1:35:52 AM   
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Pure, Holly Red and I can(and many more) tell you that special needs kids(or kids in grown bodies) are miraculous people. Often insightful, giving us gems they dont even realize. Whether smart or not they can all be wise simply by seeing things their way.


*warm fuzzies* 


Sometimes I wish I could see the world through my sons eyes, he is 11 but b/c of his autistism he sees the world so differently, so innocently.

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/10/2009 2:37:37 AM   
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Topping, you said in a post that people call you childish for needing to walk away...NOT one have you mentioned walking away from a situation that was unhealthy for you. That has been suggested but you have never claimed to have done it. Girl wake up and smell the roses, get your bottom into therapy and save yourself and those who are trying to help you alot of heartache because that is the road you are taking. If your so called dom was a half way decent man he would have sat you down with your family and insisted that you get help months ago, but due to his own problems he is not a half way decent man. He is someone who needs to get help himself. Stop blaming others and start owning up to your actions and words. If it was not for the likes of Red, kali and others I would have stopped following a couple of days ago. Topping, you are seriously sick sweetie, you need to get yourself into a safe environment and you need to learn to deal with your fears without help from things like toys and blankies, life will show you that you cannot always have such things with you. Hun learn to stand on your own feet and grow up a little, it will make life easier.


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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/10/2009 3:15:57 AM   
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WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!

There is no need to shout. On the contrary. She identifies as a daddy-girl. Do you shout at toddlers and babies as well? I consider that contraproductive.



No I don't shout at toddlers and babies but I do shout at adults who need a good kick in the ass so that they do what they need to in order to start getting their life in order. There are times to be soft and times to give that person a good kick and that was one of those times.


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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/10/2009 3:25:29 AM   
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WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!

There is no need to shout. On the contrary. She identifies as a daddy-girl. Do you shout at toddlers and babies as well? I consider that contraproductive.



No I don't shout at toddlers and babies but I do shout at adults who need a good kick in the ass so that they do what they need to in order to start getting their life in order. There are times to be soft and times to give that person a good kick and that was one of those times.


*nod nod nod*

zeph, you wore the steel tip boots for that, right?

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/10/2009 3:35:29 AM   
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Well okay since everyone is sharing their story....

For as long as I can remember I've suffered episodes of major depression. I've done the therapy thing but it never "took" Finally I was put on Paxil and it's been the difference between coping and just not getting up.

About 5 years ago, I was working for a doctor who was completely unpredictable. One day he was nice the next he would walk in and scream for no reason. Basically I stopped sleeping....period. Finally one day I went to my PCP and he put me off work for 3 months. I remember clearly going back to my office after dropping the note off at my manager and deciding to at least clear off my desk because I felt GUILTY leaving it for whoever my replacement would be. I stared at the piles and couldn't for the life of me decide where to start so I just left.

During my time off I had sessions with a wonderful psychiatric team who helped me deal with my depression head on. They also taught me how to deal with stress as well as my depression. My dose of Paxil was upped and I've been on that dose ever since. It keeps my depression at a level where I can deal with it and I'm happy to say that I haven't had an episode of major depression ever since. Some people say that prescribing meds is taking the easy way out, I call it my Godsend. Because although my last major depressive episode was triggered by stress, I've had a chemical imbalance for years before that and Paxil keeps it under control so that I can live my life.


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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/10/2009 3:43:34 AM   
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FR, after read thru

I was hospitalized for 13 months, when I was 15. Because I was an asshole, asshat, bitch. & it was a really good thing for me to have gone thru, really helped me pull my head out of my ass . . . .

The food sucked & they made me go to school every day & yadda yadda yadda, but complaining about stuff like that wasn't the point.

I also put one of the offspring into a psych hospital for a few weeks (I swear it was that Sierra place TFB went to, lol, but it was a long time ago, so it's a little hazy) . . . . We were in a bad place in our relationship, doing therapy & etc, but needing a break from each other, & he needed a bit of a reality check. Worked out well.

I've been in therapy & otherwise working on my stuff since age 11, & it never ends, the work on self. It is an ongoing life process that reaps what it sows . .. . . If energy is devoted to being a polite, well-behaved, pleasant, sociable, happy person, then the reaping will be more in that direction; if one's energies are devoted to justifying / explaining / excusing / rationalizing & etc one's behavior that bothers others & self, then that's what one shall harvest over & over . ... ..

I've had rather massive depression issues since 11. If I could scrape it out of my head & flick it into the garbage, I would. But I can't. So I do everything else I can. I take meds. I have a lifelong commitment to seeking out behavioral & cognitive things I can change about myself in pursuit of improving my mood, adaptability, & etc: quality & quantity of diet & exercise being a fundamental mainstay, supplemented with meeting my socializing needs. Lots of work around my self-talk & how I language myself to myself & the world. Meditation, self-hypnosis, & other deep-relaxation techniques. Learning to cope with my sometimes problematic desire for lots of stimulation & excitement. There's so many things that can be done, changes & tweaks I can make in my choices & behaviors . .. .

It has taken patience, persistence, setting goals . .... & I'm in a pretty good space, actually, these days. Despite having some really horrible shit go on over the last few years -- my mom died in '06 & it was a particularly emotionally ugly process, my ex dumped me later that year, then my best-friend at the time dumped me, & then my ex died 11 months ago, tragically young & unexpectedly . . . . . It's been a tough time & I am so thankful for all the work I've put in over the decades so that I have better coping skills & a social network & decent familial relationships & so on & so forth, I've needed it all.

& there's no guarantee given anywhere that life is, or should be, always, or even mostly, comfortable. Growth can be very uncomfortable in the short-run, but ultimately very positive in the long-run . . . .. & I'd say that it's a virtual guarantee that if ya live long enough, really sucky shit may hit you, possibly lots of it. It's up to you how you prepare for that . . .. .

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/10/2009 4:13:38 AM   
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TfB, no one here is your enemy.  I know its hard to hear things when in your mind you are defensive and saying that's not what i am doing.  We all know you have taken steps to begin to help yourself, and in this thread you trainwrecked by indirectly trying to say i am not like the real crazies.  I am curious if you looked at what you wrote about them and then went back and looked at your posts on how you react in situations or stop and see what you do in situations.  As i said, these people were more than likely responding to their own triggers.

No one is downing you for taking steps towards getting yourself help, however, to me, it seems you have gone from organized help to freaking out help.  A couple weeks ago, you went to the doc, got some meds, had a therapy session, then suddenly you lock yourself in a mental ward and then come on here complaining that you aren't like those people and this facility was wrong n what they did because they didn't do things YOUR WAY.   The problem is TfB, YOUR WAY, isn't WORKING FOR YOU, which is why you are at where you are.  You say you know yourself well enough, the problem is -- maybe you aren't SEEING yourself and so you have a distorted view of knowing yourself.    In order to get help and change your life as a whole, you are going to have to realize that since your way and understanding and belief isn't working for you right now, you are going to have to be able to eventually be willing to really see yourself -- not the person you believe you are.

You seem to believe that people care or are friendly when they are patting you on the head or commiserating with you or letting you believe in all you are saying ---- TfB, those people to me aren't good friends.  Those people to me are what i call going along friends.  They to me don't care enough to grab you when you are about to walk onto train tracks with a train bearing down on you.  REAL friends TfB, are friends who are willing to risk your negative reaction or even the friendship to grab your ass and slam you back yelling what the fuck are you thinking, when you try and walk infront of a train. 

So yeah, its always easier to see the go along friends as ones who care because they are the ones who let you vent and say this and that and they agree or just shrug, and its easy to see those who yell what the fuck do you think you are doing as being MEAN for interfereing.  Sometimes yeah, you need to let people walk in front of the train so to speak, but that is usually the last resort.  

So you need to decide somethings, are you upset with people because they aren't telling the truth of your posts, or are you upset because maybe they are?  I mean hell who would want to admit the latter, its not easy.

You are at the beginning of a long VERY HARD journey.  While it may hurt, when people say something that appears mean to you, maybe it may be wise to stop and go back and see what they are perhaps saying because what you don't get is --- your life doesn't effect anyone on this board - so maybe what people are saying to you may have some merit if you stop and review.

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/10/2009 4:19:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth
WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!

There is no need to shout. On the contrary. She identifies as a daddy-girl. Do you shout at toddlers and babies as well? I consider that contraproductive.



No I don't shout at toddlers and babies but I do shout at adults who need a good kick in the ass so that they do what they need to in order to start getting their life in order. There are times to be soft and times to give that person a good kick and that was one of those times.


*nod nod nod*

zeph, you wore the steel tip boots for that, right?


Of course...what's the point in being a nasty uncaring person if I don't wear the steel tip boots.

ETA oh and I kick kittens too


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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/10/2009 4:22:16 AM   
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i personally want to thank all the women of strength and courage who have shared their stories here. Kia, Zeph, Leana, Red, Peaches, Imp, GI, Estah, Angelika, Kalista, Greedy, Pixie, Kyttyn, LovingPet, and anyone i may have missed. You are all women of strength and i honestly hope the op will learn from your courage.

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/10/2009 4:25:19 AM   
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i personally want to thank all the women of strength and courage who have shared their stories here. Kia, Zeph, Leana, Red, Peaches, Imp, GI, Estah, Angelika, Kalista, Greedy, Pixie, Kyttyn, LovingPet, Holly, and anyone i may have missed. You are all women of strength and i honestly hope the op will learn from your courage.

You forgot one, I added her for you.

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/10/2009 4:29:46 AM   
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thank you Peaches 

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/10/2009 4:34:59 AM   
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zeph, if you didn't care, you wouldn't have kicked. because you wore the steel tips, you must care alot.

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