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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

You and several others here keep referring to the "CRU" as if there is only one.  When, in fact, many of you did not know the difference between Hadley and East Anglia.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

You and several others here keep referring to the "CRU" as if there is only one.  When, in fact, many of you did not know the difference between Hadley and East Anglia.

As was reported in the intial stories of the breaking scandal, RML.  As the facts came out further and clearer, we saw just how widespread the conspiracy to conceal data and lie to the world was.  An intelligent defender of the faith probably wouldn't choose to focus on that in hopes of scoring a cheap point, but then, you are you, aren't you?

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

You and several others here keep referring to the "CRU" as if there is only one.  When, in fact, many of you did not know the difference between Hadley and East Anglia.

As was reported in the intial stories of the breaking scandal, RML.  As the facts came out further and clearer, we saw just how widespread the conspiracy to conceal data and lie to the world was.  An intelligent defender of the faith probably wouldn't choose to focus on that in hopes of scoring a cheap point, but then, you are you, aren't you?

Heritic, a drowning man will grab for a matchstick.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

You and several others here keep referring to the "CRU" as if there is only one.  When, in fact, many of you did not know the difference between Hadley and East Anglia.

As was reported in the intial stories of the breaking scandal, RML.  As the facts came out further and clearer, we saw just how widespread the conspiracy to conceal data and lie to the world was.  An intelligent defender of the faith probably wouldn't choose to focus on that in hopes of scoring a cheap point, but then, you are you, aren't you?

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

You and several others here keep referring to the "CRU" as if there is only one.  When, in fact, many of you did not know the difference between Hadley and East Anglia.

As was reported in the intial stories of the breaking scandal, RML.  As the facts came out further and clearer, we saw just how widespread the conspiracy to conceal data and lie to the world was.  An intelligent defender of the faith probably wouldn't choose to focus on that in hopes of scoring a cheap point, but then, you are you, aren't you?

I guess not.

Because when someone doesn't present the facts correctly in their initial argument my bullshit meter starts to peg.

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FR:

A point by point example of how the "peer review" process was skewed and "worked" by the AGW "climatologists":

December 20, 2009
A Climatology Conspiracy?
By David H. Douglass and John R. Christy

This is a fairly detailed step by step analysis of a single work that wasn't supportive of AGW, and what the "AGW in-group" did to stop, delay and and minimize the work.

Firm

The university at the centre of the climate change row over stolen e-mails broke the law by refusing to hand over its raw data for public scrutiny.

The University of East Anglia breached the Freedom of Information Act by refusing to comply with requests for data concerning claims by its scientists that man-made emissions were causing global warming.

The Information Commissioner’s Office decided that UEA failed in its duties under the Act but said that it could not prosecute those involved because the complaint was made too late, The Times has learnt. The ICO is now seeking to change the law to allow prosecutions if a complaint is made more than six months after a breach.

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With no intent of hijacking, Firm, there is another another environmental "science" scandal breaking here in CA. 

California Ignores Scientific Protests, Passes New Diesel Regulations

You might get a kick out of this part;

In the biggest scandal, opposition scientists found the lead author of the key study by CARB had faked his Ph.D. and lacked expertise in air pollution research. In addition, CARB hired reviewers to review their own papers, naturally resulting in approval of the scientific studies that claimed the death and health effects.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

With no intent of hijacking, Firm, there is another another environmental "science" scandal breaking here in CA. 

California Ignores Scientific Protests, Passes New Diesel Regulations

You might get a kick out of this part;

In the biggest scandal, opposition scientists found the lead author of the key study by CARB had faked his Ph.D. and lacked expertise in air pollution research. In addition, CARB hired reviewers to review their own papers, naturally resulting in approval of the scientific studies that claimed the death and health effects.

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Oh please; the state set new tougher emissions standards for diesel trucks.

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It boggles the mind that some people are agitating for more pollution

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Oh please; the state set new tougher emissions standards for diesel trucks.

Oh bullshit, Rex.  The law goes a hell of a lot farther than that.  It regulates and taxes the fuck out of every piece of heavy equipment out there.  We are talking about machines that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, and are designed to last for decades.  This is the pre-meditated murder of thousands of small businesses in my state, and it is based on a lie. 

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http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onrdiesel/onrdiesel.htm

perhaps you should read the regulations. seems like wilbur is clueless as usual and Rich is rather overstating the case.

Ron