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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 9:35:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar

I was about to start a thread myself concerning the amount of extremely rude and aggressive slaves. Some even ordered me to leave this site after I responded to postings they or their friends made. I totally disagree with that users calling themselves slaves can say what they want as long as one does not own them. I read owners and slaves claiming the slave always has to keep in mind what the owner would think of their outings and the slave should not say things that would discredit the owner, yet I usually notice the opposite. It is rediculous that a slave would even think of publicly questioning the words of a dominant and I would not tolerate this behaviour. The same counts for subs/slaves discussing the sexual drive of her master and/or making fun of their master in these forums.


Eigenaar, I've been on this site upwards of two years.  I have done near everything possible in that time - I've cyberflirted, given earnest opinions, and contacted women out of the blue and asked if they'd care to chat.  I can remember one rude response in all that time.

A submissive or slave is required to act in whatever way his or her owner approves of.  It could please other Dominants, or it might not - that's immaterial.

I can remember once when a submissive here sent some money to a friend, whose owner promptly got all pissy about it.  The submissive's owner went to the trouble of posting that he was fine with everything his submissive had done. 


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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 9:42:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar

What I mean, once again, is that users claiming they in their relationship as master and slave have the rule the slave makes no remarks in these threads that could make the master look like a fool, yet the owned slaves in these same relations tell users to leave this site and send idiotic messages.

Again you don't get to decide what the owner decides makes him look foolish. And, for that matter, you are harping on about a few people and applying their behavior to everyone. While I'm certain you will take this the wrong way, that makes you look foolish.
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I was not only referring to my own experiences, this happens all the time. It is why a lot of users do not post in these threads and what keeps me from posting more than I do.

Other than doms, I have never had a submissive or slave tell me to leave the site. I have never told someone to leave the site though I have publicly suggested that, if a person isn't getting their needs met here, they may want to try elsewhere.
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I do not recall being more defensive-to-offensive in my responses than others.

If the mods put you on moderation, I'm inclined to believe that you were and simply aren't willing to see it. I've been here awhile and people don't get moderated randomly.
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Finding users who actually read what one says resembles looking for a needle in a hay-stack, I am afraid. A lot of people think coming with statistics means one agrees with the outcome.

Seems like people are you reading what you say but you are just saying the same thing over and over again without any regard for what anyone else has to say.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 9:44:15 AM   
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No matter how you put it I don't think much of an owner allowing his slave to offend people without being provoked by the addressed. If this makes more sense. And this happens all the time in these threads.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 9:48:14 AM   
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You mean people have to comply to you?

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 9:51:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar

No matter how you put it I don't think much of an owner allowing his slave to offend people without being provoked by the addressed. If this makes more sense. And this happens all the time in these threads.


So? I respect that you don't think of much them but they don't care. I don't think much of people wearing SS uniforms for their kink (to borrow a topic from fetlife) but people still do and what am I going to do about it?

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You mean people have to comply to you?

Nope and I don't see where I implied anyone does. I'm simply stating the facts of life. You can physically stand there and tell me to do this or that till you are blue in the face or type that I'm discrediting my owner till your hands fall off but the bottom line is I don't have to obey you, he doesn't feel discredited... your opinion of us doesn't matter at all except to you and those who value your opinion.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 9:51:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar

No matter how you put it I don't think much of an owner allowing his slave to offend people without being provoked by the addressed. If this makes more sense. And this happens all the time in these threads.
you think an owner who is worth a shit would prevent one from voicing her opinion?




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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 9:53:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar

No matter how you put it I don't think much of an owner allowing his slave to offend people without being provoked by the addressed. If this makes more sense. And this happens all the time in these threads.


You've changed your story. Your original point was about ANY slave's behaviour, yours or otherwise. Now it is about the lack of control by an owner of his/her slave.
 
Maybe something is sinking in, and it's about time. This thread was starting to eat itself.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 9:58:15 AM   
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Moutas and Eigenaar, others have already addressed very nicely why slaves aren’t bowing down to you simply because you call yourselves Master.

I’m wondering, though, why is your sense of yourself as a master so fragile that a “rude slave” can throw you into a tizzy?


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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 9:59:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse



And OP, your profile says you are a 50 yo dominant male. Why on EARTH, with the maturity and wisdom one would expect from someone like that, would you even consider ALLOWING a bunch of random people that call themselves slaves, on the internet no less, to upset you in the slightest???? Suck it up buttercup!


Funny about being 50 years old.  He says 50 in the profile, but when he made a forum post last year he was 63.  My addition says he's 64 this year.  I wonder what he told the 23 year old slave or whether, as with his impotence, he feels she must accept him whether he is truthful with her or not. 

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 10:02:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar

No matter how you put it I don't think much of an owner allowing his slave to offend people without being provoked by the addressed. If this makes more sense. And this happens all the time in these threads.



So.. what you're saying is that if a slave offends someone without being provoked, it speaks poorly for the master?
But, I offend people every single day. Just because I'm a woman who works. I have male friends. Sometimes.. hell when I was a slave, just being a slave is offensive to people.
so... what you're saying is that I can't be a good slave unless I give up my job, and loose the male friends? .. wait to do that, I wouldn't be able to be a slave..

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 10:13:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: moutas

A long while ago I put down here a little text and there were a little inexactitude about myself and I saw a flight of aggressive slaves(?) to destroy all my thought and all the interest of the subject...?

It is not uncommon when a question is posted here for people to look at the poster's profile.
The inexactitude that you refer to is a discrepancy of 13 years.
I am not sure why you have difficulty in understanding the general principle: people do not like being lied to.

They don't hesit to break the general meaning...

You mean that when an apparent deception is discovered, they focus on that instead of the original question?
Which in this case was: is it ok to hide the fact that you are impotent from a prospective slave?
I respectfully ask why is it that you are unable to see how they are connected by a common theme: dishonesty and therefore entirely relevant to the answer of the original question that you posted.

I wonder what is the subtility of this behavior?
Very often I see that same behavior here with other topics.

People do not like being lied to and they often choose to give voice to that.

I wonder why slave girls think that here it is "Gunfight at the O.K. Corral"?

Perhaps you are forgetting that slaves are a subset of people, and... people do not like being lied to.

I also wonder if they merit the name "slave"!

While it is true that some "slaves" are deferential to everyone, that is a very small group. The majority of slaves are only slaves to their master/owner etc.
Their dominant partner has earned their trust and respect.
They are not obligated to give that to everyone they encounter. If they were, then the submission they offer to their master would not be special, would it?

Sorry, I like subtle and tactful slaves…!

I can understand that, I really can.
Perhaps you might prove yourself worthy to one.


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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 11:11:25 AM   
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No, what is ridicuous is the many people that claim to be dominant, but then express passive/aggressive whininess because they cannot muster the dominance and willpower to get someone to follow their leadership. Just because someone claims to be a Dom/Master/etc, does not mean they are. In fact I would say that the large majority of those on the internet that claim this, are actually living some kind of wish fulfillment.

Work on your leadership, communication, and people skills, and then they may follow. If you have traits that are counter to this, that cannot be changed, then accept the fact that no matter how much you wish something, it just ain't so.

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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar

It is rediculous that a slave would even think of publicly questioning the words of a dominant and I would not tolerate this behaviour.


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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 11:15:07 AM   
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So almost exactly one year later the OP is posting again. Maybe it is his annual whinefest.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 11:16:23 AM   
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A long while ago I put down here a little text and there were a little inexactitude about myself and I saw a flight of aggressive slaves(?) to destroy all my thought and all the interest of the subject...?
They don't hesit to break the general meaning...
I wonder what is the subtility of this behavior?
Very often I see that same behavior here with other topics.
I wonder why slave girls think that here it is "Gunfight at the O.K. Corral"?
I also wonder if they merit the name "slave"!
Sorry, I like subtle and tactful slaves…!


moutas,

They are just part of the mix, but me not sorry for your opinion.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 11:17:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar

It is rediculous that a slave would even think of publicly questioning the words of a dominant and I would not tolerate this behaviour.


It is ridiculous for any person with an intellegence level higher than that of an amoeba to not question someone else's stupidity. Calling yourself a "dominant" or "master" on an internet forum means absolutely nothing to me or anyone else. I'm sorry your self esteem is so low that you need to come to a site like this searching for the respect you believe you deserve in life. News Flash....you show nothing deserving of respect, you get none. This is how life works.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 11:19:18 AM   
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Poor OP - he obviously has a picture in his mind of what ALL subs and slaves should do, and be. And unfortunately reality gets in the way of his vision. And this really isn't a snarky comment - i really do feel sorry for him.
It must suck to have reality hit you in the face every time you venture out of your house.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 12:11:20 PM   
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Apparently we are interrogating his text from the wrong perspective.


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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 1:39:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar

I was about to start a thread myself concerning the amount of extremely rude and aggressive slaves. Some even ordered me to leave this site after I responded to postings they or their friends made. I totally disagree with that users calling themselves slaves can say what they want as long as one does not own them. I read owners and slaves claiming the slave always has to keep in mind what the owner would think of their outings and the slave should not say things that would discredit the owner, yet I usually notice the opposite. It is rediculous that a slave would even think of publicly questioning the words of a dominant and I would not tolerate this behaviour. The same counts for subs/slaves discussing the sexual drive of her master and/or making fun of their master in these forums.

i got news for you sparky..... NOBODY but two men can tell me what or how to act....and you ain't one of them. i think "D" types that come on here acting like they have authority over any "s" type is "ridiculous"


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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 1:56:04 PM   
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Should I hand over my password/keys/bank account/balls to somebody I met online?


Yes please.......you can keep your balls though


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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 2:00:09 PM   
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Should I hand over my password/keys/bank account/balls to somebody I met online?
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ORIGINAL: Missokyst

Hmmm... Do you think if I put the self imposed title of Weathy Heiress that I can get a 500,000 buck loan from the bank? If that doesn't work do you think it would help if I also added that I am a master?


Do me a favor and let me know if it works 'k?


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