LafayetteLady
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What's my point you ask? That we don't know enough to say the children are being harmed with what little information the op provided. There are infinite possibilities here we should consider. There's always two sides.
Of course there are always two sides. Like if a woman says that her husband beats her and she asks us if it is her fault. We don't know if the husband's side is, "well she doesn't do what I say, so I have to beat her to make my point." Two sides, same story, same opinion. What the husband is doing is wrong.
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1. foot kissing - if she tells them all men should kiss women's feet, I will admit that's irresponsible. If he does it in a sexual way, sucking and licking and groaning, that's also irresponsible. It could be a quick peck, done in an admiration sort of way, and explained that it's an act she shares with him only.
Likewise I guess if he was required to give her a quick peck on the ass, in admiration, as long as she doesn't tell the children he should be kissing everyone else's ass, it's ok.
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2. Special bowl - if he eats it off the floor, that's irresponsible. If she tells him it's a slave bowl because he's unworthy - that's also irresponsible. But, she could tell them it's a special bowl for a special man. See, I'm taking into account the children in every point I've brought up.
Actually, you are inserting your own terms to support your argument. No where does the OP say they see him eating out of his "special bowl," he is specific, they see him eating out of his "slave bowl." You are hell bent on defending this woman's actions for reasons unknown. Do you really think that he would have mentioned anything about it if he was sitting at the table and just had a particular dish that he always ate out of?
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3. Female-led household - if she tells them men are worthless and low, that's irresponsible. Maybe she's telling them they are very valuable.
YOU are very hung up on the issue of "female-led household," even though it is has been made clear throughout this thread that regardless of the gender of each, the activities in themselves would be wrong in front of the children.
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4. Discipline - is she beating him? I would find this irresponsible. Or is she gently scolding him? We don't know.
Again, do you really think he meant that she was "gently scolding him?" Are you so focused on giving the benefit of the doubt or so naive that you would actually believe this was the case? Especially after LadyPact so clearly pointed out issues from the OP's previous posts that give a better understanding of the whole picture?
You see for many people here, when someone posts, we don't just zip off a response. We look at the person's profile, perhaps read one or two of their other posts to get a clearer idea the "whole picture."
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Then you should know when to really worry about kids' safety. You're saying she's damaging the kids but you really don't know enough yet to say so. You have only the OP's side, which is as you can see, lacking the full story.
I'm going to make another assumption *gasp* Based on your need to prove that she isn't damaging the kids, you are in one of two situations. You either don't have children and so are really not knowledgeable about the responsibilities of being a parent OR you actually do have children and see too much of yourself in the OP's description of his mistress and need to alleviate your own guilt with your own failings as a parent.
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And I disagree that "it's inappropriate for children to hear discipline because they'll grow up thinking it's their right to tell people what to do." We heard my father scold my mother and none of us felt we had to model our father's behavior. None of us grew up thinking it's our right to tell people what to do. Some boys grow up watching their father bully their mother with physical abuse and verbal threats, but we can't say for certain those boys are going to grow up and model the same behavior.
Actually, we can say that. Statistics have clearly and irrefutably shown that children who grow up seeing one spouse abuse the other are very likely to grow up to abuse or be abused by their spouse. I can even FACTUALLY go one step further with that. The FACT that you saw your father "scold" your mother is part of what led you to your beliefs on "Goddess" worship and female-led households. You so disliked your father's behavior that you went to the other end of the spectrum and decided that men would not only never scold you, but they should worship you.
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There's nothing harmful in raising children in a home under doctrines of Goddess worship such as Shaktism/Dianic Wicca religions for instance, or any other matriarchal systems which focus on the female as being the more valuable sex, the source of all living things.
As mentioned before while Shaktism is part of the Hindu religion and focuses on worship of the Goddess but does not teach that woman in her human form is a goddess rather "There is no Shiva without Shakti, or Shakti without Shiva. The two [...] in themselves are One." Likewise with Dianic Wiccans, while they worship the Goddess, that Goddess is not in human form in women, merely the deity that they worship. In other words, your continued reference to these religions have no actual bearing on the subject at hand. While you chastise everyone here for making the not so tremendous leap that based on the OP's statements, the children in that household are witnessing things they shouldn't, YOU make the very giant leap that she might be practicing a religion that worships Goddesses. She very well may be, but I would ask you to find ONE item in ANY of those religions that would indicate those theologies condone "slave dishes" or disciplining men. Of course it is rhetorical because it doesn't exist.
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