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RE: training - 1/15/2010 10:34:49 AM

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My question to the OP is why you feel the need to change it? What prompted the question?

i was thinking about training and what is really happening

and thinking of other words to describe training to see if i couldn't get another perspective about it

sometimes if you think about things using other words you may gain new insights

Discipline... from the word disciple

though the words aren't sexy and don't promote much of a fantasy, i came up with conditioning and habituation

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RE: training - 1/15/2010 10:36:51 AM

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though the words aren't sexy and don't promote much of a fantasy, i came up with conditioning and habituation

Social engineering

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RE: training - 1/15/2010 10:38:50 AM

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The colour example is not a sign that it shows its age, its a sign that it shows the word that we use in englad. Just like realise is spelled with an s no matter how many times my bloody laptop tries to tell me its with a z

Greetings, there was a period there after colour. So the reference to the spelling was not meant to be indicative of the age of the work. I apologize for the grammatical error on my part. My slave is from Wales so I am acutely aware of the subtle differences in our language. I hope that clarifies it better.

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RE: training - 1/15/2010 10:39:28 AM

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though the words aren't sexy and don't promote much of a fantasy, i came up with conditioning and habituation

Social engineering

in a way i think it is

it doesn't sound so sexy but if it works the good sex comes later lol

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RE: training - 1/15/2010 2:07:50 PM

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seeing how i am gay, i think it is pretty stupid when people use the word gay to describe something they think is stupid. kind of like me saying something is pretty female. that ska music ,,, that shit is so female, i hate it.

i do sometimes say that something may be cool, even though i am not meaning it is cold.

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RE: training - 1/15/2010 2:45:05 PM

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seeing how i am gay, i think it is pretty stupid when people use the word gay to describe something they think is stupid. kind of like me saying something is pretty female. that ska music ,,, that shit is so female, i hate it.

i do sometimes say that something may be cool, even though i am not meaning it is cold.

Gay means happy, that was the reference I was making, gay is joyful, jovial etc I didn't mean using it to describe something stupid but you are right it has changed again

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RE: training - 1/16/2010 7:23:54 AM

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i am curious as to the other dictionary definition of the word train. oceania raves about this other dict. what is the definition of train in these other dictionaries? is it actually different and a reason for you to be so arguementive ?

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RE: training - 1/16/2010 8:06:23 AM

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i am curious as to the other dictionary definition of the word train. oceania raves about this other dict. what is the definition of train in these other dictionaries? is it actually different and a reason for you to be so arguementive ?

Ace side step, don't worry I don't think anyone noticed.

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RE: training - 1/16/2010 8:07:11 AM

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i am curious as to the other dictionary definition of the word train. oceania raves about this other dict. what is the definition of train in these other dictionaries? is it actually different and a reason for you to be so arguementive ?

My point was simply that people ponder the meaning of different words, they change the meaning of different words to suit new circumstances... language changes. My point was not that "training" has some new and different meaning from one dictionary to the next. My point was that your chagrin with changing words is like a pissant trying to stop a hurricane... you are not going to stop it..

The word "training" has synonyms... the word "training" has a history.. the word "training" can be used in varied contexts.. and people debate words all the time... where do you think the lexicon came from?

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RE: training - 1/16/2010 12:03:00 PM

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so you are saying you did that just to be arguementive?

step aside? you two were the ones carrying on about webster sucks and you have something better.

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RE: training - 1/16/2010 12:58:27 PM

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step aside? you two were the ones carrying on about webster sucks and you have something better.

I said side step not step aside, you totally ignored my point about the change of terms because well you couldn't argue it.

I never argued that training has changed meaning I said that I dont like the term in the context of a relationship. my argument with you was about your 'i hate they way people change words' thing

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RE: training - 1/16/2010 3:17:09 PM

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so you are saying you did that just to be arguementive?

step aside? you two were the ones carrying on about webster sucks and you have something better.

I never said "step aside"... is that addressed to me or someone else?

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RE: training - 1/16/2010 3:26:42 PM

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to be trained is all in what your MASTER is looking for and what his slave is willing to submit to and do as her MASTER wishes its a 50 50 give and take you will learn as a slave your MASTER does only what his slave desires deep down he brings that out in her

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RE: training - 1/19/2010 7:21:22 AM

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i didnt realize there was that much difference in telling someone to side step as opposed to step aside. its pretty much telling someone the same thing.... isnt it?

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RE: training - 1/19/2010 7:36:26 AM

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step aside is move out of the way generally, side step is an avoidance or dodging maneuver, so step aside is more passive than side step in common usage...

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RE: training - 1/19/2010 8:12:14 AM

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Add a front step and a back step and you're doing the Foxtrot!

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RE: training - 1/19/2010 8:16:22 AM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76DwlgQXWmo

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LcAuQ_AT-s

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RE: training - 1/21/2010 7:43:35 PM

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they should change handcuff.

it should be called a wristcuff because it goes on your wrist and not your hands

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RE: training - 1/21/2010 7:48:44 PM

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I have to say that I agree. You train your animals, you don't train people.

I disagree. When in a new job, there is usually training or on the job training, and I don't really see this as being that much different.

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I am highly self sufficient. I know how to cook, clean, etc. I know how to fix a good number of things in my house and how to take care of myself.

As are many of us who can do the same. That said, many Doms have specific ways they like things to be done, and a submissive who chooses to serve them may be expected to do things the way the Dom prefers. The specifics require instruction. In this, it is much like the training one would get for a new job, so the word, for me, is accurate.

I agree, I can do anything any other woman can do. I can solve problems and analyze situations, balance a check book, repair a hole in a wall, refinish floors, tile a shower, wall or floor, do algebra, cook delicious meals. However, my purpose is to serve Him and please Him. He trains me to be exactly what he wants. He trains me to kneel the way he wants, to speak the way he wants, to do everything exactly the way he wants me to. Training is not a bad word, it's not a taboo. Training occurs at work, with children, with pets, with wood and bonsai trees, and with submissive and slaves. Plain and simple. To say that using the word training is demeaning is like saying children are like dogs because they both get trained. Just because they use the same word does not make them similar to anything else.

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RE: training - 1/21/2010 7:50:08 PM

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I self-train and recondition myself daily.

It keeps my roots nice and shiny and my leaves quite firm.

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