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RE: forced femizition - 1/9/2010 5:52:15 PM

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<<<< Put's Polite in a chair and ties him up. Starts singing 99 bottles of beer on the wall... 99 bottles of beer, take one down, swallow it down... 98 bottles of beer on the wall... and so forth.

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RE: forced femizition - 1/9/2010 5:55:39 PM

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Hmm...I've heard of a "forced intoxication" fetish but it seems like a lame excuse to get drunk as a skunk without taking responsibility for it to me.

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RE: forced femizition - 1/9/2010 6:00:02 PM

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Hmm...I've heard of a "forced intoxication" fetish but it seems like a lame excuse to get drunk as a skunk without taking responsibility for it to me.

I was joking.....You dont want to know my real fetish.....lol

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RE: forced femizition - 1/9/2010 6:01:20 PM

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Yeah, what about a "forced to endure drinking beer" thread for a change.

Ah, now that's a kink I can get behind. I was just this very afternoon looking for recipes for ancient beers (Dogfish Head have an excellent one, sadly unavailable in the UK), as I've been thinking about returning to home brewing once I move back to England. The thought of someone on his knees in the kitchen saying, "Mistress, stop, please! Don't force to me to drink any more IPA" and I reply "Drink it all, you cur! You will swallow every last drop" makes me quite giddy. Hmm. Maybe I need to stop reading so much BDSM Internet porn.

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RE: forced femizition - 1/9/2010 6:06:30 PM

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Hmm...I've heard of a "forced intoxication" fetish but it seems like a lame excuse to get drunk as a skunk without taking responsibility for it to me.

I was joking.....You dont want to know my real fetish.....lol

I know you were, but it could still be an interesting thread/threadjack. Better than rehashing the same ol' tired "do me" topics.

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RE: forced femizition - 1/9/2010 6:12:05 PM

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Venatrix, if you ever learn how to brew Guinness give me a shout please.

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RE: forced femizition - 1/9/2010 6:37:10 PM

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Oh, for heaven's sake. Another do-me drinker.

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RE: forced femizition - 1/9/2010 7:58:32 PM

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Hmm...I've heard of a "forced intoxication" fetish but it seems like a lame excuse to get drunk as a skunk without taking responsibility for it to me.

I have heard that forced intoxication fetish leads to forced loss of wallet fetish.

Dangerous stuff that.

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RE: forced femizition - 1/10/2010 2:17:03 AM

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Oh, for heaven's sake. Another do-me drinker.

I am more of a do anybody drinker.

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RE: forced femizition - 1/10/2010 8:30:06 AM

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I like a man with standards. Even if they're very low ones.

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RE: forced femizition - 1/10/2010 9:20:10 AM

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The formulation of a clique, or what appears to be a clique, seems quite natural. Some folks think so similarly and get on so well (on the boards, at least), that they tend to post in the same circles and along the same lines. It's quite entertaining.

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RE: forced femizition - 1/12/2010 8:35:08 PM

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But... Wouldn't he lose all ability to parallel park?

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RE: forced femizition - 1/12/2010 9:11:30 PM

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As has been said, it is not "forced" if you actually want it. To actually force fem someone who did not want it would be highly unethical, not to mention illegal in most places.

I can't believe you are actually throwing this cliche around like its the truth. Just because a guy "likes" feminization does not mean that it cannot be forced. One can be directed what, how long, where to wear female clothing -- etc. These are all elements of force and control. A man can also be directed how to act, speak, walk, etc.

Forced feminization means one thing: the women is directing the scene or the choices, and the man accepts and obeys that direction. This is what "force" means in the context of BDSM.

Your statement above makes about as much sense as "a top cannot discipline a bottom because the bottom "assents" to the top's control."

Yes, a bottom or sub or a slave makes a decision to surrender control -- they do so because they like being forced and directed in their BDSM involvement.

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RE: forced femizition - 1/12/2010 9:23:56 PM

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As has been said, it is not "forced" if you actually want it. To actually force fem someone who did not want it would be highly unethical, not to mention illegal in most places.

I can't believe you are actually throwing this cliche around like its the truth. Just because a guy "likes" feminization does not mean that it cannot be forced. One can be directed what, how long, where to wear female clothing -- etc. These are all elements of force and control. A man can also be directed how to act, speak, walk, etc.

Forced feminization means one thing: the women is directing the scene or the choices, and the man accepts and obeys that direction. This is what "force" means in the context of BDSM.

Your statement above makes about as much sense as "a top cannot discipline a bottom because the bottom "assents" to the top's control."

Yes, a bottom or sub or a slave makes a decision to surrender control -- they do so because they like being forced and directed in their BDSM involvement.

Read post #1 please in reference to the type of "forced fem" he was asking about.

As to your first point, yes it can be done, and if you can find a Lady who actually wants to do all that, more power to you. Most will view it as too much work, with too much focus on the kink.

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RE: forced femizition - 1/12/2010 9:28:30 PM

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like i said none of you really have any interest in the subject because if you did you would have at least something interesting to say on the subject itself but like i said in my earlier post only the ones that have no interest in the subject in hand tend to post the negitive on it and if your sick of the same old topic why even reply at all i asked was how many

Its really a moth to the flame thing, they cannot resist. Another explanation is that many women have a visceral, deep seated dislike and distaste for CDs -- and this is what drives their bigotry.

A good comparison is the right wing family values crowd who want to protect marriage by preventing gays from being married. Family values and marriage are actually irrelevant, what's relevant is what's unspoken -- an embedded, deep seated dislike of gays.

For some people prejudices are "truth," especially when those prejudices are widely shared against a minority target point. Back in the day, sissymaidlola could lay this stuff out in spades, so upsetting some women that the moderators would be swooping in telling everyone "to behave." Lola found it too difficult to take on bigots and the moderators at the same time, so he flew the coop. Guy was smart as whip, but the wonks neutered him by putting him on "moderation." The bigots, though, they got to post their opinions no problem.

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RE: forced femizition - 1/12/2010 9:36:19 PM

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Read post #1 please in reference to the type of "forced fem" he was asking about.

As to your first point, yes it can be done, and if you can find a Lady who actually wants to do all that, more power to you. Most will view it as too much work, with too much focus on the kink.

What the OP talked about in #1 would be better described as forced transformation, not forced feminization. So, I really cannot agree with your statement or its wording.

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RE: forced femizition - 1/12/2010 10:02:24 PM

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Another explanation is that many women have a visceral, deep seated dislike and distaste for CDs -- and this is what drives their bigotry.

Actually, I'd guess it's more a case that many women have a visceral, deep-seated dislike and distaste for men who have nothing to offer but their kink and who see every woman who identifies as a domina as nothing more than a means to fulfill that kink, and that's what drives their annoyance.

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RE: forced femizition - 1/12/2010 11:17:12 PM

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Venatrix, if you ever learn how to brew Guinness give me a stout please.

fixed :)

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RE: forced femizition - 1/13/2010 5:12:36 AM

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like i said none of you really have any interest in the subject because if you did you would have at least something interesting to say on the subject itself but like i said in my earlier post only the ones that have no interest in the subject in hand tend to post the negitive on it and if your sick of the same old topic why even reply at all i asked was how many

Its really a moth to the flame thing, they cannot resist. Another explanation is that many women have a visceral, deep seated dislike and distaste for CDs -- and this is what drives their bigotry.

A good comparison is the right wing family values crowd who want to protect marriage by preventing gays from being married. Family values and marriage are actually irrelevant, what's relevant is what's unspoken -- an embedded, deep seated dislike of gays.

For some people prejudices are "truth," especially when those prejudices are widely shared against a minority target point. Back in the day, sissymaidlola could lay this stuff out in spades, so upsetting some women that the moderators would be swooping in telling everyone "to behave." Lola found it too difficult to take on bigots and the moderators at the same time, so he flew the coop. Guy was smart as whip, but the wonks neutered him by putting him on "moderation." The bigots, though, they got to post their opinions no problem.

I've been on CM for awhile, and seen a number of threads concerning crossdressing etc pop up, and quite often I too have noticed that there are a few that always seem to feel a need to chime in with negative opinions. It's amazing that if one goes back over these threads, even going back years, the same names post, usually saying the exact same things, over and over and over....

Well....so what....

It's not their kink, it's not something they like and it's something they are frantic to tell you they don't like.

Who cares?

I don't know you cloudboy, but I have read your posts, usually on this subject. Some I agree with, others I do not I know that you are serious about what you say, and I sense that on some level you feel some pain that there are people in the world who take a dim view toward crossdressing. Well, so do I, but it is what it is and sometimes that's just the way it's going to be.

Rather than getting upset because a small group of people who visit an online forum dislike your personal kink, why not just ignore them? Since they are not going to see it your way, why not just disregard their opinion on the subject alltogether? Why would you give their opinion weight when you see them as being so negative to it all? Since they don't "get it", just chalk up their thinking on it as simply more white noise on the internet sea. It's possible you know to just agree to disagree. If you find their thinking on other matters useful, great, enjoy their thoughts on those matters and just understand that to you they can't see the forest for all the trees on the matter of crossdressing.

They don't like it, they don't want to participate in it. That's fine. They don't have to "get it", and they surely do not have to want it in their bedroom.

They get to make their choice, just like you did when you grabbed that first pair of panties...

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RE: forced femizition - 1/13/2010 7:38:51 AM

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Actually, I'd guess it's more a case that many women have a visceral, deep-seated dislike and distaste for men who have nothing to offer but their kink and who see every woman who identifies as a domina as nothing more than a means to fulfill that kink, and that's what drives their annoyance.

All kinky people seek others for kink fulfillment. That's normal, and that's not crossing any lines.

"I like to be spanked."

"O, you are not into spanking, sorry, I need to find someone else."

This person is not someone "who identifies others as nothing more than a means to fulfill that kink." No, they are a person looking for a compatible partner.

No one likes assholes (selfish people), but you imply that CDs are inherently more selfish than others, and this strikes me as bigotry. A kink orientation does not make a person selfish. Where you see an "observation," I see bias and fault projection.

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