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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 6:46:52 PM

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osf, you know for whatever strange reason, I actually like you, yes I know, fellow submissives forgive me, but osf, we are not for the most part high maintenance. If anything, I am way more of deferential to my Man than any vanilla woman I know, I wait on him hand and foot, try and anticipate his needs, and cater to his every whim, so that is why to me, he wants me over a "vanilla" woman. Maybe you are attracting the "do me" subs, or forgive me, but your attitude here somtimes comes across as wrong. Trust me, a woman that is really submissive to her man is a treasure, and one to be respected, yes respected, and loved. You may want to readjust your attitude on the women you are interacting with.

don't you feel that you may lean on him for more emotional support than the average woman?

Lean on him? I lean on him for everything, love, strength, protection, but I also think I give him more that the "average" woman. I don't know many average i.e. vanilla women that would accept that after a hard day he wants to beat me, or use me, or treat me like just a sextoy, not for my enjoyment, solely for his, and someone that just lives to make him happy and content .It's to us anyway equal, not the relationship, but the power exchange, and I wouldn't for one minute imagine that he gets less from it in his way that I get from it in my way. Yes, I lean on him for everything, but he loves and encourages that, he is my protector and my love. My Sir, My Daddy, My tormentor and My Knight in Armor. I also know that I am his soft place to fall, and I will give him all that I have forever.

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 6:48:25 PM

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osf, you know for whatever strange reason, I actually like you, yes I know, fellow submissives forgive me, but osf, we are not for the most part high maintenance. If anything, I am way more of deferential to my Man than any vanilla woman I know, I wait on him hand and foot, try and anticipate his needs, and cater to his every whim, so that is why to me, he wants me over a "vanilla" woman. Maybe you are attracting the "do me" subs, or forgive me, but your attitude here somtimes comes across as wrong. Trust me, a woman that is really submissive to her man is a treasure, and one to be respected, yes respected, and loved. You may want to readjust your attitude on the women you are interacting with.

don't you feel that you may lean on him for more emotional support than the average woman?

???

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 6:54:33 PM

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You'd have to ask Him, of course.

But I think the benefits make up for any negatives; well, at least for Him they do.

He spoils His bratty lil sub, and He gets rewarded for it, in many ways.

Bingo!!! What she said

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 6:55:01 PM

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knowing how high maintenance a submissive is, why would any man prefer one to the average woman?

You MUST, MUST be kidding us with these questions. How bored are you on that farm? Why don't you ask something similar on match.com?

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 6:57:21 PM

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i mean real dominance and submission...
hey, there is a real d/s and some people actually practice it

OK. So now I am curious- what do you mean by "real d/s"?

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 6:57:40 PM

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knowing how high maintenance a submissive is, why would any man prefer one to the average woman?

You MUST, MUST be kidding us with these questions. How bored are you on that farm? Why don't you ask something similar on match.com?

in a perverse way i feel sorry for you

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 7:26:20 PM

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There are things people want, that I don't understand. I don't understand why people smoke. The entire attraction, need, desire, hunger, addiction people have for it baffles me. It stinks, shortens ones life, smells bad, stains the teeth and curtains. Over all, from my perspective, it is just plain yucky. I can ask them all day, till I'm blue in the face (from lack of oxygen of course) but not being a smoker, I won't ever be able to really understand the habit.

I don't understand why people love playing in the snow. Despite living in Michigan for 8 years now, I still do not comprehend how it can be fun, to play in hell. And yes, I have this firm belief that snow is evil, and hell is cold. I've suited up and gone out and tried to enjoy myself in the snow, but I simply don't get it. I get the attraction of a warm fire, snuggling in for the winter, and I get why bears hibernate, but I don't GET why people actually deliberately go out into the snow and LOVE it.

I don't really understand mosh pits. Nor do I understand why anyone would endure crowds at over populated areas like New York City, just to watch a ball drop at midnight. I don't understand why people are fascinated with attending Mardi Gras every year, just for the honor of trekking about in urine drenched streets with the high hopes of catching a pair of tits being flashed from a balcony. You can find much nicer tits, in much cleaner and more comfortable settings, at a strip club.

I could go on as there are a lot of things I don't understand, but mostly I don't understand how a man who claims to be dominant, who wants a submissive as badly as you do, cannot answer a simple question he poses to others. I don't understand why you would have to wonder what a dominant would gain from having a relationship with a submissive.

Osf, you're a funny guy. I think you could have some pretty interesting things to share, if you were willing to be real and open about what you want and who you are.

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 7:55:10 PM

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Dear OP, your broad sweeping generalizations about women and D/s are not winning you a fan club. People are people, relationships are relationships. Being in the lifestyle (ack that word) doesn't make people special or more high maintenance or more mysterious than nilla folk. Please let it go.

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 8:00:54 PM

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Dear OP, your broad sweeping generalizations about women and D/s are not winning you a fan club. People are people, relationships are relationships. Being in the lifestyle (ack that word) doesn't make people special or more high maintenance or more mysterious than nilla folk. Please let it go.

i dont want a fan club, i'll settle for one

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 8:02:22 PM

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Seriously- I really am curious- what do you mean by "real d/s"?

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 8:03:37 PM

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Seriously- I really am curious- what do you mean by "real d/s"?

it amounts to a non negotiated relationship

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 8:17:00 PM

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Oh sexy Winsome, I love to smoke. I know, it can be gross, and my Sir doesn't, but when I have three or more martini's, ohhh I need that cigarette, it is almost ridiculous how I want one. However, I don't allow it in my house, or car, and I might smoke 10 a week, and I do have nice white teeth. I guess I answered this because I hate the stereotype of stinky brown toothed smokers, some of us really do it in moderation. After a nice meal, and a few drinks> light me up please.

. I will use the white strips tomorrow I promise!

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 8:17:45 PM

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If you think there is such a thing as a non-negotiated relationship you are deluded. Are you also hoping for a no limits slave?

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 8:19:32 PM

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From what he's posted, I'm pretty sure he's looking for a meat puppet..... you could be in trouble here, Katy!

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 8:24:09 PM

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shuddup!

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 8:24:46 PM

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 8:34:28 PM

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Oh sexy Winsome, I love to smoke. I know, it can be gross, and my Sir doesn't, but when I have three or more martini's, ohhh I need that cigarette, it is almost ridiculous how I want one. However, I don't allow it in my house, or car, and I might smoke 10 a week, and I do have nice white teeth. I guess I answered this because I hate the stereotype of stinky brown toothed smokers, some of us really do it in moderation. After a nice meal, and a few drinks> light me up please. . I will use the white strips tomorrow I promise!.

aww! (HUGS) You do have a beautiful smile. Stereotype corrected!

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 8:35:44 PM

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Seriously- I really am curious- what do you mean by "real d/s"?

it amounts to a non negotiated relationship

A non-negotiated relationship? Isn't that called a kidnapping or hostage situation?

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 8:41:03 PM

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Depends on your definition of 'High Maintenance'.
Your definition could greatly differ from everyone elses...

*edited for bad spelling

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 8:41:07 PM

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there are some like that an owner/property relationship, and some are even more extreme than i like

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