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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 9:12:34 PM

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Ok, so you want an animal, that you can cage, beat, fuck, order about, have no romantic emotional tie to, who will obey you without question; and you want all this as a non-negotiated relationship?

No... I think he's saying that keeping a woman in that circumstance - in a cage, fed like an animal, locked in your dungeon, etc. etc. is extremely high maintenance ... and he's right. Think about it - you've got to shell out to build your dungeon, get one of those uber-big cages you can lock people in, clean it and the sub, feed the sub - it's real work. And it's time-consuming. And it's expensive.

If the relationship is "non-negotiated" it's even more work. Kidnapping someone and holding them against their will is even more expensive and time consuming. Not to mention Clarice Starling and the FBI knocking on your door and asking awkward questions.

If that's his thesis, he's right - a vanilla relationship would be less work and effort for the Dom.

It's just that seems so self-evident I don't know why it needs to even be stated.

All he has to do is hose the bitch down, and toss her his sloppy leftovers. Lazy bazturd. As long as it puts the lotion on its skin, like its told - he's golden!

You make it sound so easy! That lotion is expensive, dammit!

You lazy bazturds are NEVER satisfied! Cum is free, jeesh, like I had to tell you that?!?

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 9:14:00 PM

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I prefer property. Just like with any property, if you want it to function at a more effecient capacity then you must invest time in it. It all depends upon the "return on investment" that someone is looking for. My slave obeys, and on the are occasions she didn't, I liked into the problem and corrected it. Now before you start your "real d/s" relationship shit with me, you may want to read some of my posts about my views on power exchange relationship. You can read them here and on Fetlife in the Owner/property group.

The process of surrender continues, it is not something that occurs over night or with the snap of a finger. She is to the point that she is very valuable property, because not only do I care about her, she is the assistant in my business that makes and keeps appointments, organizes everything, and reminds of things when I am busy. She does require a lot of my attention as she must ask permission for most everything, and she is integral to my household and business.

High maintenance? Not on what I get in return, no.

I have read your topics before, and you need to improve your written communication skills, and stop the fucking whining. That is how it comes across to me at least, take that as you will. Stop lumping people together so readily, that may be part of your problem in the s types you meet. Remember that it is human nature to meet the expectations of those we are interested in, so if you expect them to be high maintenance they likely will be. I had one out of four slaves that was high maintenance, and I showed her the door and never looked back.

Master the females you select, and set their expectaions properly. Set them up to succeed by guiding them to that which you want from them, and if they cannot do it, then part ways and find one that can.

I have a saying, and that is "you must own a slave more than you own them, or you become a slave to that love."

In many of the topics you have posted, you have been given some really good advice, maybe you should try and learn from it.

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knowing how high maintenance a submissive is, why would any man prefer one to the average woman?

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 9:15:30 PM

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Ok, so you want an animal, that you can cage, beat, fuck, order about, have no romantic emotional tie to, who will obey you without question; and you want all this as a non-negotiated relationship?

No... I think he's saying that keeping a woman in that circumstance - in a cage, fed like an animal, locked in your dungeon, etc. etc. is extremely high maintenance ... and he's right. Think about it - you've got to shell out to build your dungeon, get one of those uber-big cages you can lock people in, clean it and the sub, feed the sub - it's real work. And it's time-consuming. And it's expensive.

If the relationship is "non-negotiated" it's even more work. Kidnapping someone and holding them against their will is even more expensive and time consuming. Not to mention Clarice Starling and the FBI knocking on your door and asking awkward questions.

If that's his thesis, he's right - a vanilla relationship would be less work and effort for the Dom.

It's just that seems so self-evident I don't know why it needs to even be stated.

All he has to do is hose the bitch down, and toss her his sloppy leftovers. Lazy bazturd. As long as it puts the lotion on its skin, like its told - he's golden!

You make it sound so easy! That lotion is expensive, dammit!

You lazy bazturds are NEVER satisfied! Cum is free, jeesh, like I had to tell you that?!?

Do you have any idea how much jism it takes to cover the entire...

...actually, maybe you do. I have no way to know.

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 9:17:19 PM

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High maintenance? Not on what I get in return, no.

i never said it wasnt worth it, i thought that would be self evident i guess i'll have to have it made into like an army maintenance comic

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 9:19:20 PM

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Do you have any idea how much jism it takes to cover the entire...

...actually, maybe you do. I have no way to know.

After I stopped laughing so hard, and wiped the tears away, I realized I had no come-back! I surrender!

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 9:22:15 PM

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After I stopped laughing so hard, and wiped the tears away...

Then my work here is done!

Heigh-yo, Silver! Away!

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 9:25:11 PM

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I have a saying, and that is "you must own a slave more than you own them, or you become a slave to that love."

name for that, dom rot

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 10:05:35 PM

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i know, thats wishful thinking on your part

Dude,
Whether you get to dip your wick or not means exactly nothing to me. I just find it amusing that you spend half your time attempting to tell us about real D/s, and the other half whining because you can't find a sub.

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 10:25:16 PM

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i know, thats wishful thinking on your part

Dude,
Whether you get to dip your wick or not means exactly nothing to me. I just find it amusing that you spend half your time attempting to tell us about real D/s, and the other half whining because you can't find a sub.

i express what i want if you listen that's up to you, no gun to your head, all you have to do is stop following me from thread to thread, im beginning to think you have a crush on me

and , what whine?

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/11/2010 11:52:52 PM

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Wow, I guess thinly disguised contempt is some form of foreplay in your little fantasy world. If that's what floats your boat, rock on.

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/12/2010 1:24:16 AM

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i keep hearing from all these wonderful relationship committed submissive women but have yet to hear from some of their "dominants"

they either don't exist or are too pussy whipped to make an appearance

hey, there is a real d/s and some people actually practice it

Or just don't give a shit about the forums and know that they don't have to post and answer your continuous stream of questions to prove anything.

Valyraen wants a submissive woman because he's a dominant man. Yin and yang. Neither of us really give two shits if my answering for him makes you think less of either of us.

And BTW, on farms I usually hear of folks wearing steel-toed shoes, not velcro ones. Whatever floats your boat man. Could you just stop turning your threads, and others', into tirades about "real" d/s and how you are looking for someone? Nobody brings it up but you. You go out of your way to insult and invite insults while pretending to be some sort of blameless victim who knows more than everyone. If you think this place is clueless, go find your own level and stop bitching.

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/12/2010 1:56:25 AM

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I think Doms are just as high maintenance as their subs... they should be a good match.

Before me and my Husband started doing BDSM stuff... really we were just as high maintenance as we are now... but we put the extra effort in all the wrong stuff...
We were a dysfunctional vanilla couple... I was a very demanding vanilla wife and he was a stubborn boring old fart, we wasted an awful lot of energy on this...

When i managed to get my head around my own freakishness and decided to come clean about how much of a slut i truly was... well... everything seemed to fall in place...

It is sure less of an issue for Him to maintain our happiness now
I am sure we appreciate each other much more like this than we ever did the 'vanilla' way, it takes just as much energy, we just put it to nicer things.

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/12/2010 2:44:31 AM

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Why would any man would want a high maintenance submissive? Because even if she's high maintenance, she makes him feel as if he's much more than just "any" man. She makes him feel as if he's one in a million.

And high maintenance or not, that's pretty much like winning the relationship lotto.

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/12/2010 2:51:32 AM

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But to your question as to why "any" man would want a high maintenance submissive? Because even if she's high maintenance, she makes him feel as if he's much more than just "any" man.

Awesome response.

10 Aqua points.

(Yeah I'm givin' out too now. Till I get bored with it.

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/12/2010 2:51:41 AM

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Freak trumps nilla any day of the week!

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/12/2010 3:35:28 AM

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knowing how high maintenance a submissive is, why would any man prefer one to the average woman?

Oh fucking boy....uh nutting High maintenance about my bitch ...I tell her what to do and she does it.

Simple shit

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/12/2010 3:38:25 AM

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domi ever live on a farm?

I have been on a farm. Spent some time there. Never thought that tenniboots were really appropriate wear.

I usually would wear some sort of a shoe that offered more protection...Something akin to Columbia footwear.

They had laces.

You say your a dom but your velcro screams sub.

shoes that slip on make it easier and faster to go in and out of the house

they are imminently practical and as the goose and the horses dont mind i dont mind

you dont have to justify what shoes you wear osf - walk on by mate.

im assuming that by High Maintenance you mean, directional, emotional, control of a sub as apposed to someone vanilla and i would agree that yes, subs on the whole probably are.

but hopefully, once everything is going according to plan and youre both 'working' together it shouldnt be.

but it does depend on what sort of submissive youre looking for. avoid those that need lots of micromanagement

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/12/2010 4:50:50 AM

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knowing how high maintenance a submissive is, why would any man prefer one to the average woman?

Oh fucking boy....uh nutting High maintenance about my bitch ...I tell her what to do and she does it.

Simple shit

BadOne

Pretty much the way it works around here too, except He almost never has to tell me to do anything.

OP, my Master has absolutely no trouble asking for whatever it is that He wants, and He gets it. He wanted a low-maintenance, service-oriented, fiercely loyal slut. He also required that she not be a masochist because He is a sadist. He got exactly what He wanted. That's because He knows how to communicate.

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/12/2010 4:59:20 AM

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some women like to be kept in cages, and given no rights

some do...but they have to accept the Dom first...

Lose a lot of 'em with that part, don't ya Osf?

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RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman - 1/12/2010 5:02:02 AM

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women are not that hard to get, believe me

theres half the earths population with cunts, im sure i could get one if i was desperate for anything

unfortunately for you, most have standards. That leaves...

Slim pickin's, dude

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