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RE: Naughty Mistress!! - 1/22/2010 11:19:40 AM   
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I attend FemDomme clubs from time to time, however, My favorite clubnights are mixed S&M/BDSM clubs.

That particular senario is all too rife at FemDomme clubs, I have seen some sights, all made Me cringe and I agree unacceptable.


I think your right. Most of the cringe worthy things I have seen on the scene have been in fem Domme clubs.

Are you coming to Crimson on Saturday? Now that is a good BDSM club!

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RE: Naughty Mistress!! - 1/22/2010 11:28:57 AM   
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RE: Naughty Mistress!! - 1/22/2010 11:46:51 AM   
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The venue does allow for some levity here, but it is still a lot like some do on the internet. You are out in the public and you should at least practice some form of social etiquette especially mongst strangers.

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RE: Naughty Mistress!! - 1/22/2010 3:09:40 PM   
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Hi LadyAngelika, I really don't believe this woman has anger issues.


She slapped a stranger for kneeling. That screams anger issues to me, if not only a temporary moment of uncontrolled anger.

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RE: Naughty Mistress!! - 1/23/2010 3:35:43 AM   
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Hi LadyAngelika, I really don't believe this woman has anger issues.


She slapped a stranger for kneeling. That screams anger issues to me, if not only a temporary moment of uncontrolled anger.

- LA


No.. She slapped a stranger for not kneeling and she slapped a stranger to prove to her apprentice what a formidable Domme she was.
I hear Dommes screaming all the time at these fem Domme clubs and its not because they are angry, its because thats the way they like to dominate.
I also see Dommes slapping a sub for not kneeling quick enough and thats not out of anger. The only difference here is, it wasn't her sub and she was being a fool. I don't think for a minute she was being angry. I think she was showing off and it backfired.

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RE: Naughty Mistress!! - 1/23/2010 7:32:22 AM   
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I'm with you, allthatjaz. Although it sounds like he may have responded with more force than necessary, the woman instigated the action, deserved what she got, and had more reason to be kicked out of the club than the man did. I hope the "student" learned a good lesson, though not the one the "teacher" was trying to give her.

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RE: Naughty Mistress!! - 1/23/2010 8:43:34 AM   
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   So you go to a Fem Domme club dressed as a school boy, you've obviously been to such places dressed in similar attire before. You're approached by a Mistress, whom orders you to your knees and you're response is; "I'm not into this kind of thing!" What else could the Mistress assume when she's surrounded by droves of sniveling wimps all falling over themselves to shower her with love, worship and money.
   As for the smack around the head, as that never happened to him before, remember of course his location and the fact that he is there because he wants to be. Why did'nt he just walk away? If he'd thrown a punch at a woman in any other club, he'd be down the stairs head first and given a hard kicking for his trouble.

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RE: Naughty Mistress!! - 1/23/2010 10:20:12 AM   
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Even if a man goes to a place expecting or hoping that someone will wish to bend him over and spank him... he still has a choice in who that is and when it happens. If he is hit or attacked he has a right to defend himself and that is legal in most places. What if his dominant told him she was going to meet him there and he was to get there and get a seat for them? How do you think she would react if some bitch came up and hit her man... her submissive? I dare say.. major cat fight if it was my man!

That man had every right to defend himself especially after asking her not to and saying no. He didn't hit her right off the bat... he said no. A woman says no and someone doesn't listen... well.. guess what? It is the same for a man. His safeword was no...

She had no right to do what she did and to say a man cannot defend himself is rather silly. Doesn't fly with this bitch. She broke the law and rules of conduct for decent people and lifesyler's. No way do you blame the victim here and he was a victim.

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RE: Naughty Mistress!! - 1/23/2010 10:27:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: allthatjaz


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Hi LadyAngelika, I really don't believe this woman has anger issues.


She slapped a stranger for kneeling. That screams anger issues to me, if not only a temporary moment of uncontrolled anger.

- LA


No.. She slapped a stranger for not kneeling and she slapped a stranger to prove to her apprentice what a formidable Domme she was.
I hear Dommes screaming all the time at these fem Domme clubs and its not because they are angry, its because thats the way they like to dominate.
I also see Dommes slapping a sub for not kneeling quick enough and thats not out of anger. The only difference here is, it wasn't her sub and she was being a fool. I don't think for a minute she was being angry. I think she was showing off and it backfired.


Oops.. I guess the not didn't make it in my sentence. I thought it but it didn't make it to the screen, sneaky bugger ;-)

But my opinion still holds. I would never, ever dare slap one that wasn't mine. I just find it lacks class. It's not being dominant, it's being domineering.

And hell yeah it backfired! I'm sure she's milked the indignant feeling of being punched by a sub for all it's worth too.

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RE: Naughty Mistress!! - 1/23/2010 12:32:29 PM   
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So you go to a Fem Domme club dressed as a school boy, you've obviously been to such places dressed in similar attire before. You're approached by a Mistress, whom orders you to your knees and you're response is; "I'm not into this kind of thing!" What else could the Mistress assume when she's surrounded by droves of sniveling wimps all falling over themselves to shower her with love, worship and money.


She could use common sense and leave it at that.

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That man had every right to defend himself especially after asking her not to and saying no. He didn't hit her right off the bat... he said no. A woman says no and someone doesn't listen... well.. guess what? It is the same for a man. His safeword was no...

She had no right to do what she did and to say a man cannot defend himself is rather silly. Doesn't fly with this bitch. She broke the law and rules of conduct for decent people and lifesyler's. No way do you blame the victim here and he was a victim.


I completely agree

That is a great point among many Lady Ellen! Just by entering there may be some consent of some sort, implied.

For some things perhaps. But you cannot legally consent to assault of any kind. So she has no defense there.

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The promoter didn't see the incident. All he saw was a woman with a bleeding nose and an old man looking rather baffled but unharmed. The promoter acted on his instincts at the time. He witnessed an injured woman and an unharmed man. He should however, of listened to the witnesses that saw the act and he should of further investigated it.


Exactly. The promoter jumped to conclusions without understanding the situation first. Aside from that I get the feeling he would have sided with the 'Domme' regardless.

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Her behaviour is of course completely out of line. His reaction, given the provocation, less so. Overall however the promoter/organiser is primarily at fault; not only for handling the consequent course of events badly, but also for permitting and enabling such a situation to arise at all. He should feel grateful indeed to not be facing at the least a civil suit.


Exactly. The promoter is VERY lucky not to be facing legal action. Though if this situation is any indication, I would think he will sooner or later for later 'misunderstandings.' If he would allow this kind of thing to go on, it just screams the level of 'safety' in this club.

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Hi LadyAngelica, I really don't believe this woman has anger issues. I think its more a case of wrongly believing that any man who is submissive is willing to kneel for her. I mean, if she had grabbed him by the ear and whispered 'who's been a naughty boy then?' he would probably been butter in her hands. She just got it wrong and couldn't face up to it.


While I still think it had something to do with anger on some level, if she can't face up to her actions and responds with assault, that is very indicative of some serious problems on her part. What else is she capable of doing if things don't go her way? I hope the woman she was training realizes her actions were absolutely unacceptable.

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A schoolboy at a Goddess party is never a good match!! Most of the guys in that club that night would of given their right arm to of been slapped down by that woman. Its just she got it wrong in his case and then wouldn't back down when told 'NO' because I guess she wanted to save face in front of her apprentice.


Thats still no excuse for her actions. No means NO. I don't care who anyone is, they should understand that above all else.

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I did actually speak to the promoter of this club. He's a really nice guy but because he is a genuine woman worshiper, he just couldn't see that she had done anything wrong and considered the boot and ban a warning to the other male subs.


Regardless of if he is nice or a woman worshipper, he still does not know how to properly handle clients or how to run a club, clearly. He could have ended up getting sued and losing that club over that situation. To say nothing of the fact that he set a VERY bad precedent that the Dommes can do just about anything in that club and if they f*ck up its the subs who get blamed and thrown out? That is no way to run a business and is not a good example to be setting.

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If you know the fellow, perhaps you could arrange for him and introduction to a club run by promoters with more sense. Indeed, the "Dumbinatrix" was entirely out of line. And hitting an old man that hard? without his prior knowledge or consent? I'd probably have thought long and hard about decking her, myself. I would have, at least, spoken with someone in the man's defense, relaying everything I had witnessed. I believe in defending underdogs. Perhaps it's not too late?


I agree. The first thing anyone should know about going to any club is you don't walk up to random people and hit them. Let alone an old man that was minding his own business. Sooner or later that will come back on her, big time... ('huh?! nobody told me he was an undercover health inspector!!'  or 'he was a patched angel.....? uh oh....')

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I don't think that gives them blanket permission to show their ass (figuratively) in public or give them an excuse to act inappropriately.  I most likely wouldn't attend a club that would condone that kind of behavior.


I agree completely.

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Based on the facts that you presented:

I think she's an idiot that doesn't know boundaries and seriously has anger management issues.

I think that meeting violence with violence is no better.

They are both at fault.


He has every right to defend himself. I would have had the same reaction in his place if someone randomly walked up and hit me. She can't expect a nice reaction to behavior like that. There are clubs where doing something like that would get you dragged out back and beaten with baseball bats. The smart thing to do is not hit people at random. Besides if thats her idea of showing off for her trainee, that says alot right there.

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Thats right LadyPact, it has to be about a year ago now that this happened and I have not been back to the club since, but I have recently heard that this same man has been banned permanently from 3 major London clubs because of that incident and personally I think that's unfair.


I agree, not just unfair but also illegal. It makes me wonder what the club promoter was saying about this guy behind his back.

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 Personally, I find the behavior of the female deplorable.  It's one thing to engage in face slapping with a bottom who has consented to the activity.  It's assault if just approaching someone to haul off and hit them.  Being at a club doesn't change that.  In My opinion, it's no different than walking up to someone and doing it on the street. 


I agree completely. I'd like to see what would happen if she walked up to some random person on the street and did that.

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RE: Naughty Mistress!! - 1/23/2010 12:45:24 PM   
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He has every right to defend himself. I would have had the same reaction in his place if someone randomly walked up and hit me. She can't expect a nice reaction to behavior like that.


I wasn't suggesting that he just sit there and take it. But I see no honour in fighting violence with violence. He would have had more impact if he would have been the bigger man and said "Lady, you are out of line" and reported her to the club owners.

I'm also not saying that the outcome is fair. I was simply stating that they both acted out of line.

I was in a club once (not bdsm but night club). A man came up to me and said "my cousin and I are having a bet to find out if your breasts are real" and as I leaned in to listen to him, he copped a feel. I could have slapped him and would have been justified. But rather, I went to see the really hot bouncer and asked him to take care of this little pest for me.

Result: the idiot and his cousin got kicked out and banned and I got a date with the hot bouncer. All is well that ends well!

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RE: Naughty Mistress!! - 1/23/2010 12:56:56 PM   
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Well I see your point, but you have to admit, his reaction is somewhat to be expected. I am not saying violence is a good thing, but i'm sure you understand why he reacted the way he did.

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RE: Naughty Mistress!! - 1/23/2010 1:24:32 PM   
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Well I see your point, but you have to admit, his reaction is somewhat to be expected. I am not saying violence is a good thing, but i'm sure you understand why he reacted the way he did.


Expected, yes. Exemplary, not even close. :-)

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RE: Naughty Mistress!! - 1/23/2010 2:57:28 PM   
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Let's switch the sexes of the participants and modify the setting and actions and see if your stance would remain the same, in the following case, choccy:

So a girl goes to a discoteque dressed in her sexiest outfit, she's obviously been to such places dressed in similar attire before. She's approached by a manly man who hits on her, insistently. "Thank you, I'm not interested." What else could the manly man assume when he's surrounded by droves of sexily clad women all falling over themselves to chat him up and dance with him?
  
As for the pinch on the arse, as that never happened to her before, remember of course her location and the fact that she is there because she wants to be...



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I see that you've beaten me to an example, LA. And a personal one, to boot.

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RE: Naughty Mistress!! - 1/24/2010 4:10:20 AM   
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My ex partner was in no way submissive but he used to attend certain Domme clubs because he supplied the dungeon equipment. All the regular Dommes knew him and apart from chatting would leave him well alone but he did cop it once off a Mistress who presumed he was sub. He was standing at the bar when he felt this almighty sting on the back of his leg. He turned and said 'look lady, do that again and I'm going to escort you out of the club'. I think she thought he was kidding because she did do it again and he did take her by the arm to the cloakroom where he told the staff to get her coat because this lady was going home.

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RE: Naughty Mistress!! - 1/24/2010 1:17:14 PM   
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I wasn't suggesting that he just sit there and take it. But I see no honour in fighting violence with violence. He would have had more impact if he would have been the bigger man and said "Lady, you are out of line" and reported her to the club owners.

I'm also not saying that the outcome is fair. I was simply stating that they both acted out of line.


Self defense is never "out of line."

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I was in a club once (not bdsm but night club). A man came up to me and said "my cousin and I are having a bet to find out if your breasts are real" and as I leaned in to listen to him, he copped a feel. I could have slapped him and would have been justified. But rather, I went to see the really hot bouncer and asked him to take care of this little pest for me.


This 'example' is apples and oranges with the original scenario. A 'copped feel' is nothing like a stranger walking up and slapping you across the face.

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RE: Naughty Mistress!! - 1/24/2010 1:27:23 PM   
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Yep when he walked in he gave somewhat consent,but he also warned her not to do it,what you may be able to do now is ask those in your"circle" not to go to those clubs and freely tell management why,it may not change the "barring" but if nothing else when the school-boy hears of it he will feel vindicated!

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RE: Naughty Mistress!! - 1/24/2010 3:48:38 PM   
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Self defense is never "out of line."


I believe the relevant concept here is appropriate force. If someone slaps you on the butt, you don't have the right to pull out a .45 Magnum and plug them through the head. A huge, strong person does not have the right to repeatedly pound a small, slight person into an inch of their life because of a little slap.

In the case in question, there is a bit of a gray area. The man was entitled to respond. Did he respond appropriately, or with unnecessary force, and was it more or less automatic, or premeditated and well beyond the realm of reasonableness? Those are the questions. I admit that I didn't read every single post here, but I recall reading that her slap was strong enough to knock him down. Sounds like a punch back might be within the realm of reasonableness, although a court might rule otherwise.

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RE: Naughty Mistress!! - 1/24/2010 7:53:58 PM   
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Yep when he walked in he gave somewhat consent


No he didn't. Walking into any club, regardless of what fetish may or may not be present does NOT give anyone consent to do anything to you. If a woman walked into a club that ran orgies would that mean she gives consent to have the first guy that sees her to have sex with her? No. The fact is she had no right to hit him. Personally I think she got off lucky as far as the punch goes. It could have been alot worse. You know how much damage you can do to someone with one well placed hit? A bloody nose is nothing. Besides, maybe it taught her a lesson about doing stupid things like that.

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Sounds like a punch back might be within the realm of reasonableness, although a court might rule otherwise.


A court would likely rule that his response was instinctive self defense and that she provoked it herself.

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This 'example' is apples and oranges with the original scenario. A 'copped feel' is nothing like a stranger walking up and slapping you across the face.


I agree.

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He was standing at the bar when he felt this almighty sting on the back of his leg. He turned and said 'look lady, do that again and I'm going to escort you out of the club'. I think she thought he was kidding because she did do it again and he did take her by the arm to the cloakroom where he told the staff to get her coat because this lady was going home.


I see what you're saying but to be fair all she did was hit him on the back of the leg, she didn't walk up and hit him in the face and knock him down.

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Expected, yes. Exemplary, not even close. :-)


I agree.

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RE: Naughty Mistress!! - 1/25/2010 7:13:52 AM   
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...the Misstress is undaunted and starts to scream at him 'I said get on your fucking knees BITCH' and without further ado hits him so hard round the head that she virtually knocks him over. The guy picks himself up, brushes himself off and like a little steak of lightning throws one punch at the Mistress bopping her clean on the nose.



Ideally, he would have wounded her with words. 'I thought under-18s were not allowed in here.'

Better still he should have started laughing. Confused, she would likely have asked, 'what are you laughing at?'. To which he would reply, 'I don't know, but it talks.'

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