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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 10:49:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

As someone who is bi, I have heard this before from females that are "bi-curious" and automatically think that I am interested in fulfilling their curiosity. It is very objectifying.

This is why I take issue with this.

At least you're honest about the fact that you are totally projecting your own personal past issues with this onto a completely confused (about being the target of it, I can presume) individual just looking to share discussion about something he likes.

That selfish bastard.

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 10:50:19 PM

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Nobody batted an eyelash about "forced" play or "forced" struggling being some sort of illusion unless there's a gun put to your head here.

Thank you!

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And what's this nonsense about reading into his words some sort of suggestion he's doing this without the consent of his partner?

Projection and assumption. With a soupçon of domineering. (I added that French for you NZ ;-)

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 10:52:04 PM

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Whoa, whoa, wait a minute... somebody say something about soup?

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 10:52:15 PM

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If you're looking for understanding, you're on the wrong board. There's not a lot of that here. Sorry. You'll find some, but probably not as much as you were hoping for. It's not as much fun as being snarky and judgmental.

I'm not quite sure when it started being that way...it's kind of snuck up on me.

Clearly, you should be hanging around here more often.

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 10:53:26 PM

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Projection and assumption. With a soupçon of domineering. (I added that French for you NZ ;-)

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Whoa, whoa, wait a minute... somebody say something about soup?

I could totally go for some new england clam chowder right about now.

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 10:53:40 PM

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If you're looking for understanding, you're on the wrong board. There's not a lot of that here. Sorry. You'll find some, but probably not as much as you were hoping for. It's not as much fun as being snarky and judgmental.

I'm not quite sure when it started being that way...it's kind of snuck up on me.

Clearly, you should be hanging around here more often.

NZ... I almost begged the Panda to hang around here more often. Imagine that, me, a Domme, begging the Panda. But I adore his insights. Maybe I could lure him with soup... and save my Domme diginity.

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< Message edited by LadyAngelika -- 1/30/2010 10:54:05 PM >

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 10:55:02 PM

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NZ... I almost begged the Panda to hang around here more often. Imagine that, me, a Domme, begging the Panda. But I adore his insights. Maybe I could lure him with soup... and save my Domme diginity.

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 10:55:43 PM

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If you're looking for understanding, you're on the wrong board. There's not a lot of that here. Sorry. You'll find some, but probably not as much as you were hoping for. It's not as much fun as being snarky and judgmental.

I'm not quite sure when it started being that way...it's kind of snuck up on me.

Clearly, you should be hanging around here more often.

Thank you, most sincerely, but that's exactly why I don't. This place is a lost cause; it's past the tipping point, IMO. I found another board - not BDSM related - that's a lot friendlier and doesn't have so many people trying to prove something with every post. And I'm thoroughly enjoying the internet for the first time in a very long time.

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 10:57:47 PM

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So we are talking about is voluntary cocksuckery with displaced responsibility via the “forced” fantasy. This poor guy is gonna’ need a dictionary to rewrite the OP in PC terms.

I agree. Any man who thinks about 'forced bi' who identifies as straight is in denial. What degree of bisexual he is is up to him, but blaming someone else (which is what forced bi is really all about) is a cheap, sad little trick.

I don't identify as straight. Nor bi, or gay. I'm very, very bi-curious, not staying the closet about it. I realize that I am most likely Bisexual, and it honestly doesn't bother me. And wow, I got a lot more replies than I figured. Gonna take a while to read though them.

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 10:57:48 PM

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Thank you, most sincerely, but that's exactly why I don't. This place is a lost cause; it's past the tipping point, IMO. I found another board - not BDSM related - that's a lot friendlier and doesn't have so many people trying to prove something with every post. And I'm thoroughly enjoying the internet for the first time in a very long time.

Have checked with us about this? Did you get a permission slip from your parents? How is this for the benefit of the community relationship at all?

You selfish bastard!

*cry*

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 11:00:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

Thank you, most sincerely, but that's exactly why I don't. This place is a lost cause; it's past the tipping point, IMO. I found another board - not BDSM related - that's a lot friendlier and doesn't have so many people trying to prove something with every post. And I'm thoroughly enjoying the internet for the first time in a very long time.

Have checked with us about this? Did you get a permission slip from your parents? How is this for the benefit of the community relationship at all?

You selfish bastard!

*cry*

There there NZ... I'll keep working on the Panda *hikes up her skirt a little and dribbles a little soup on her thigh*

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 11:01:10 PM

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ORIGINAL: GiveandGive

I don't identify as straight. Nor bi, or gay. I'm very, very bi-curious, not staying the closet about it. I realize that I am most likely Bisexual, and it honestly doesn't bother me. And wow, I got a lot more replies than I figured. Gonna take a while to read though them.

Good! Most of us *ahem* are pretty cool and generous with our perspectives and advice... and soup apparently ;-)

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 11:02:20 PM

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I understand it. Here is what I hear from you and let me know if I got it wrong. You aren't gay. You probably don't want to be alone with a man. But the idea of a woman humiliating you by getting you (through persuasion) to suck a man's cock is a humiliation you are dying to experience, right?

This, yeah. I'm also into crossdressers and transvestites, but the idea of just being alone with them doesn't turn me on.

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika
You say you have a girlfriend. Is she Domme? If so, maybe she shold be leading the search? She might have better results. And I say might hesitantly but I know I had more luck finding the men then my past boys did. I also used to turn to gay friends that didn't want to fuck me.

I have a girlfriend who is accepting of the idea, and wants to do it if I can find the right guy. However, it seems that every guy around my age group is only interested in banging her. I have no problem being with a gay guy, but I can't find any who are comfortable naked around a women.

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 11:02:36 PM

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

So we are talking about is voluntary cocksuckery with displaced responsibility via the “forced” fantasy. This poor guy is gonna’ need a dictionary to rewrite the OP in PC terms.

Kind of like "slavery" being consenual?

It's really just best to not worry about the meaning of words in regards to kink. Saves everyone a bit of frustration.

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 11:07:24 PM

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ORIGINAL: Aylee Does she want to "force" him to sick a cock? Would strap-on play work? Has he talked to her at all? What is the problem with his girlfriend and the guy getting it on after he blows him?

She's into the idea. But she doesn't want any other guys touching her, and I feel the same. However, every guy that we talk to about this would rather get it on with her. This is the issue here. I'm not going to change my world to accommodate someone else banging my girlfriend.

We have a rule. She can mess around with other chicks, I can mess around with other guys. Trannies and Crossdresser are case-by-case. We don't see this as cheating.

Also, is your username lifted from a webcomic?

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 11:08:18 PM

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I have a girlfriend who is accepting of the idea, and wants to do it if I can find the right guy. However, it seems that every guy around my age group is only interested in banging her. I have no problem being with a gay guy, but I can't find any who are comfortable naked around a women.

Really? Maybe I'm just a lot more liberal with general nudity that most people.

I guess finding a gay guy who wouldn't mind being dominated verbally by a woman but who would play sexually solely with you isn't the easiest thing to run into. It is a small niche.

I do understand the issue of having to deal with guys that just want to focus on sex with her, though.

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 11:08:38 PM

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I could totally go for some new england clam chowder right about now.

That's what I miss about the East Coast the most :(

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 11:08:41 PM

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[quote="LadyAngelika"]
I understand it. Here is what I hear from you and let me know if I got it wrong. You aren't gay. You probably don't want to be alone with a man. But the idea of a woman humiliating you by getting you (through persuasion) to suck a man's cock is a humiliation you are dying to experience, right?

quote:

This, yeah. I'm also into crossdressers and transvestites, but the idea of just being alone with them doesn't turn me on.

That's understandable. It's good that you have defined your desires and your boundaries.

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[quote="LadyAngelika"]
You say you have a girlfriend. Is she Domme? If so, maybe she shold be leading the search? She might have better results. And I say might hesitantly but I know I had more luck finding the men then my past boys did. I also used to turn to gay friends that didn't want to fuck me.

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I have a girlfriend who is accepting of the idea, and wants to do it if I can find the right guy. However, it seems that every guy around my age group is only interested in banging her. I have no problem being with a gay guy, but I can't find any who are comfortable naked around a women.

Most 19 year olds haven't figured it out as much as you have. Would you consider playing with people a bit older? If you were in Quebec, there is a swinger's site that is BDSM friendly where you could find exactly that. I'm not sure where to refer you in Ohio. I'm not big on munches (meetings for BDSM people) but you might meet people there: http://www.drkdesyre.com/meetppl/meetppl.html

Most imporantly, it might take a while to find the right person to do this with. Don't rush into this too fast or you might not like your first experience. When it will happen, if it's cool and happens naturally, pretty sure you'll have fun :-)

- LA

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 11:10:29 PM

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Oh, and your current 2nd image should totally be your avatar instead of the current one. *nod*

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 11:11:59 PM

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Oh, and your current 2nd image should totally be your avatar instead of the current one. *nod*

Agreed! What a cutie pie :-)

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