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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/31/2010 12:10:03 AM   
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Hey there. I totally understand what you are looking for. I sent you a C-mail on the other side.

Geezuz crimany people, lighten up on the lad! Is there actually "forced bi" in our world? YES. Been there and done that. Is there "encouraged bi" with those that are new but curious" YES, been there done that, still do. Is there" getting 2 males and a female together just for the sheer fun of it? YES, been there, done that and still do it as often as possible.

This isn't just something I do every once and a while. I have a bi mate. Most of the men I know are bi. I have bi (or at least heteroflexible) subs. I get it. Send me an e-mail and I can help you sort it out.

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/31/2010 12:12:13 AM   
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To RS.... "cocksuckery"...oh, that is good! I am GOING to have to add that to my vocabulary! lol

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/31/2010 1:17:42 AM   
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Thanks for all the advice, everyone!

Sorry that I disappeared. My girlfriend 'distracted' me for a bit, haha.

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/31/2010 9:15:06 AM   
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A few thoughts after continued read through.

I'm glad to see that you're not discouraged, OP.  There are actually a lot of topics around these boards where the 'forced' part of the role play is part of the fun.  If you want to have that mindset for this little adventure, go for it.  That can add all kinds of extra thrill for you.  Even pretending that this is something that is against your will when it really isn't, can give you more excitement in the endeavor.  If your girlfriend enjoys the power aspect of the scenario, it's going to turn her on more. 

By the way, this part right here, while you're still in the planning/searching phase, can be hot as hell, even while it's still just the two of you.  There's nothing saying that you can't build the anticipation for the event.  Speaking as someone who enjoys m/m play for My benefit, this is the time that I use to build the excitement level.  Get yourself a glass toy for sucking when it's just the two of you, because that's one hell of a turn on and let your girlfriend enjoy watching you use your mouth on that.  Instead of being impatient for the real McCoy, explore the fantasy portion of it for the duration.  If both of you are really hot about the idea, the role playing about 'what it will be like' is only going to benefit you in the bedroom.

It does sound a bit that you are overly concerned about the additional person wanting to be with the girlfriend, rather than with just you.  If that's the case, just present it honestly to potential candidates.  Let them know that you have specific limits for the scene and you're not willing to go beyond them.  Not to mention, most males only have one orgasm for the duration at a time anyway.  If you suck him off to completion, he's not going to be banging your girlfriend anyway, you are.  The same holds true if you are the receiver for anal.  He'll be spent and you and your girlfriend will be the ones ready to keep going.  I would suggest to you that you decide what his role will be during that time.  Is he going to be an observer only from that point?  Do the two of you want him to leave?  (That one is kind of cold.)  What about some mild petting?  Since we are talking about a real person here, you have to know exactly what happens to him when his major involvement is more or less over.  The same as you would want if it was you joining a couple.

Have fun and good luck.


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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/31/2010 9:19:43 AM   
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I doubt there is much forced about it.

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/31/2010 9:52:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

There are actually a lot of topics around these boards where the 'forced' part of the role play is part of the fun.  If you want to have that mindset for this little adventure, go for it.  That can add all kinds of extra thrill for you.  Even pretending that this is something that is against your will when it really isn't, can give you more excitement in the endeavor.  If your girlfriend enjoys the power aspect of the scenario, it's going to turn her on more. 


Great addition LP. Pehaps the people who can't get the "forced" play thing wrapped around their head might get some perspective.

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/31/2010 9:55:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GiveandGive

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ORIGINAL: Aylee Does she want to "force" him to sick a cock?  Would strap-on play work?  Has he talked to her at all?  What is the problem with his girlfriend and the guy getting it on after he blows him? 


She's into the idea. But she doesn't want any other guys touching her, and I feel the same. However, every guy that we talk to about this would rather get it on with her. This is the issue here. I'm not going to change my world to accommodate someone else banging my girlfriend.

We have a rule. She can mess around with other chicks, I can mess around with other guys. Trannies and Crossdresser are case-by-case. We don't see this as cheating.

Also, is your username lifted from a webcomic?


Well, let's see. . . you are in Toledo, Ohio.  Have you thought about finding the pride coffee shop in town and making that your place to buy your morning coffee? 

Attending some GLBT meetings or events?  (Pride would work also)

You are not old enough to drink, so hanging out at the gay bar in town is not going to help. 

How far are you willing to travel for this?

And really. . . have you two went and purchased a strap-on for her to wear so that you can "practice?"  You two might have a lot of fun with that. 

Hmmm. . . sometime in April, University of Kansas has their "kiss-in" where they encourage same-sex PDA on the campus.  You might check out the Queers & Allies and see if you could make it down for Pride Week or see if there is something similar at a campus near you.

Yes, my UID is from a webcomic.  Is it not nifty! 

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/31/2010 10:41:14 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact
By the way, this part right here, while you're still in the planning/searching phase, can be hot as hell, even while it's still just the two of you.  There's nothing saying that you can't build the anticipation for the event.  Speaking as someone who enjoys m/m play for My benefit, this is the time that I use to build the excitement level.  Get yourself a glass toy for sucking when it's just the two of you, because that's one hell of a turn on and let your girlfriend enjoy watching you use your mouth on that.  Instead of being impatient for the real McCoy, explore the fantasy portion of it for the duration.  If both of you are really hot about the idea, the role playing about 'what it will be like' is only going to benefit you in the bedroom.

It does sound a bit that you are overly concerned about the additional person wanting to be with the girlfriend, rather than with just you.  If that's the case, just present it honestly to potential candidates.  Let them know that you have specific limits for the scene and you're not willing to go beyond them.  Not to mention, most males only have one orgasm for the duration at a time anyway.  If you suck him off to completion, he's not going to be banging your girlfriend anyway, you are.  The same holds true if you are the receiver for anal.  He'll be spent and you and your girlfriend will be the ones ready to keep going.  I would suggest to you that you decide what his role will be during that time.  Is he going to be an observer only from that point?  Do the two of you want him to leave?  (That one is kind of cold.)  What about some mild petting?  Since we are talking about a real person here, you have to know exactly what happens to him when his major involvement is more or less over.  The same as you would want if it was you joining a couple.

Have fun and good luck.



I've been wanting to get some toys (vibrator, strap-on) but we don't have the money to get a high-quality one that won't easily break. I've heard horror stories about the cheap ones, so I'm a bit weary when it comes to that.

When I look for people, I tell them exactly what I want, but then their response usually indicates that they're going to try to go after her regardless.

quote:

Not to mention, most males only have one orgasm for the duration at a time anyway.


Okay, this always confused me. I've heard this before, but I don't know how true it is. Usually it takes me 3-4 to even lose my erection. Is it an age thing?

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/31/2010 10:43:09 AM   
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Usually it takes me 3-4 to even lose my erection. Is it an age thing?


Could be. But then I know men in their 40s who are like this. I've proposed marriage to them ;-)

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/31/2010 10:46:27 AM   
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Well, let's see. . . you are in Toledo, Ohio.  Have you thought about finding the pride coffee shop in town and making that your place to buy your morning coffee? 

Attending some GLBT meetings or events?  (Pride would work also)

You are not old enough to drink, so hanging out at the gay bar in town is not going to help. 

How far are you willing to travel for this?

And really. . . have you two went and purchased a strap-on for her to wear so that you can "practice?"  You two might have a lot of fun with that. 

Hmmm. . . sometime in April, University of Kansas has their "kiss-in" where they encourage same-sex PDA on the campus.  You might check out the Queers & Allies and see if you could make it down for Pride Week or see if there is something similar at a campus near you.

Yes, my UID is from a webcomic.  Is it not nifty! 


Travel is an issue, since our car decides to come up with another problem every time we fix the old one. Right now, although it turns on, the rear tires are locked. No matter what I do, I can't get them to move.

We've talked about a gay bar before, and it's something that I'd be interested in going to. If I was ever going to go clubbing, I'd only go to gay ones anyways, since regular clubs/bars attract the frat crowd. I may want to bring this up to her soon, because I do think that it'd be a decent place to find likeminded people. Plus, there would be a higher density of crossdressers there, I would assume.

I really like Sluggy Freelance, but recently it seems that there is only one good arc a year! I've been reading it since 2001, when I was... Eleven? Haha.

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/31/2010 10:49:13 AM   
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Usually it takes me 3-4 to even lose my erection. Is it an age thing?


Could be. But then I know men in their 40s who are like this. I've proposed marriage to them ;-)

- LA


My girlfriend was surprised when we first became sexually involved, because she said that she's never heard of it before, which was the first time that I learned that it was not the norm. She loved it at first, but now she just scoffs and looks at it as extra work.

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/31/2010 11:00:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GiveandGive

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

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Usually it takes me 3-4 to even lose my erection. Is it an age thing?


Could be. But then I know men in their 40s who are like this. I've proposed marriage to them ;-)

- LA


My girlfriend was surprised when we first became sexually involved, because she said that she's never heard of it before, which was the first time that I learned that it was not the norm. She loved it at first, but now she just scoffs and looks at it as extra work.



Hence why she should pimp you out to boys! ;-)

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/31/2010 11:09:19 AM   
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Hence why she should pimp you out to boys! ;-)

- LA


Pretty much, lol! She was talking about me getting a "second girlfriend" because she doesn't want to do as much stuff as I want to, and not as often as I want either. I'm sure she's joking though

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/31/2010 12:13:16 PM   
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Actually, I don't think it has to do with age.  Some males are just wired differently.  It takes a lot of work to build stamina up from a one shot guy.  It can be done, but it's a long process. 

As for the inexpensive automatically = bad quality, that's not always true.  I think I paid ten bucks for My first dildo and that thing lasted for two years.  (I'm not suggesting this for you.  For what you want, I'd really go with glass.  Silicone and other materials tend to have an after taste.)

If the girlfriend isn't as keen as you on the activity, have you thought about joining a couple independently?


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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/31/2010 1:57:17 PM   
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Frankly, if there is no gun to your head, it is not "forced." 


Well, yeah. But it's a roleplay thing, so I figured you guys would understand it.



You'd be surprised to know how much people here don't understand.

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/31/2010 2:00:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: hardbodysub

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ORIGINAL: GiveandGive

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Frankly, if there is no gun to your head, it is not "forced." 


Well, yeah. But it's a roleplay thing, so I figured you guys would understand it.



You'd be surprised to know how much people here don't .

And equally surprised how much we do understand or seek to. This thread was a perfect example of that! :-)

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/31/2010 2:07:20 PM   
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I think its just the terms that people have issue with bi is a sexuality you can be 'forced' into an act but you cant be 'forced' into an oriantation and that really is the sticking point as I see it.

In terms of what you are after, there are plenty of people who do practice it, even more so who practice it using different terms and I can understand the control/humiliation aspect. I can also understand why many people who you speak to want to get jiggy with your partner afterwards, it kinda makes sense, however not all are like that it is very similar to finding a woman who will be with another woman while watched by a man elusive but out there

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/31/2010 2:22:46 PM   
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Actually, I don't think it has to do with age.  Some males are just wired differently.  It takes a lot of work to build stamina up from a one shot guy.  It can be done, but it's a long process. 

As for the inexpensive automatically = bad quality, that's not always true.  I think I paid ten bucks for My first dildo and that thing lasted for two years.  (I'm not suggesting this for you.  For what you want, I'd really go with glass.  Silicone and other materials tend to have an after taste.)

If the girlfriend isn't as keen as you on the activity, have you thought about joining a couple independently?



I felt like I was going to gag when I read the line about the aftertaste :(

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "joining a couple independently", sorry!

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/31/2010 2:24:50 PM   
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I think its just the terms that people have issue with bi is a sexuality you can be 'forced' into an act but you cant be 'forced' into an oriantation and that really is the sticking point as I see it.

In terms of what you are after, there are plenty of people who do practice it, even more so who practice it using different terms and I can understand the control/humiliation aspect. I can also understand why many people who you speak to want to get jiggy with your partner afterwards, it kinda makes sense, however not all are like that it is very similar to finding a woman who will be with another woman while watched by a man elusive but out there


I thought that it would be understood that it was a sex thing, and not a lifestyle. Sort of like how people who dress up as animals during sex don't go to the office the next day, still wearing paws and a tail.

I understand that it is a small niche, but it's still frustrating when we put the rules directly out there, and people still don't seem to understand.

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/31/2010 2:30:57 PM   
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I thought that it would be understood that it was a sex thing, and not a lifestyle. Sort of like how people who dress up as animals during sex don't go to the office the next day, still wearing paws and a tail.

I understand that it is a small niche, but it's still frustrating when we put the rules directly out there, and people still don't seem to understand.



People can know what you mean but not like the way you phrase it thats just how things are. It isnt a small niche at all its huge, but a lot of people who do not indulge in it or even those who do don't like the term forced bi.

Think of it this way, bisexual people often come against a lot of criticism from both the gay and straight communities, not making their mind up etc etc, the fact that you call it forced bi rather than forced gay could be construed as implying bisexuality isn't a real thing its a switch turned on and off. Though that isn't necessarily how I feel I know it is how a fair few people do surely you can understand it?

Edit to add, I am really not trying to derail your topic any further, I do think you should read some of the old threads on the topic for more detail into the actual activity itself

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