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RE: Shaved - 3/25/2010 7:37:18 PM

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I've always been phobic of hair, on myself and others. As a sub, that is still something I insist upon...if someone I am interested in has hair, they either remove it, or I won't be with them. Tough, and very un-subbie, but true.
My sir, fortunately, is also grosses out by hair. We have daily shower time together to make sure we are both completely hair free below my eyelashes, and below his chin.

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RE: Shaved - 3/25/2010 8:06:40 PM

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I like shaving because it makes me feel cleaner and more comfortable with the idea of somebody getting close to there.

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RE: Shaved - 3/26/2010 1:02:13 AM

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Why is a naked pussy a MUST in any relationship? Every Dom i talk to insist that I be shaved.

I don't think it's a must in any relationship, I think it may be in a large number of cases but I can't say whether it's a majority or not.

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What is it about having a hairless pussy? If it was meant to be hairless God would have made it that way.

God didn't make it that way, we evolved that way.

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Am i wrong in thinking that maybe they have a wish to be with a girl who has not reached puberty?

No, I don't think you're wrong to think that "maybe" they have a wish to be with a girl who hasn't reached puberty but it would be very stupid and wrong to "assume" they have such a wish - I'm willing to bet that only a tiny minority of doms who prefer their subs shaven would fall into this category for the fast majority.

I can't speak for others but my preference (in rough order of importance) is based on the following -

1) The regular act of submission implied by shaving herself - She's actively reminded of her submission every time she showers
2) The reminder of her submission every time she sees herself naked
3) The increased sensitivity to silk, and wind my sub feels
4) Lickability - although as you say, neatly trimmed muffs are only marginally less lickable
5) The feel as I run my hand over a shaven pussy that is barely covered with flimsy silk

I could go on, but all this talk of shaving is making me horny...

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RE: Shaved - 3/26/2010 1:15:26 AM

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ORIGINAL: Firebirdseeking

Maybe some of those who "insist" on shaving should listen to the first of the Vagina Monologues.

Oh everyone should read the blast of hatred at men and heterosexuality that is the Vagina Monologues!

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RE: Shaved - 3/26/2010 1:28:49 AM

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1) The regular act of submission implied by shaving herself - She's actively reminded of her submission every time she showers

quoted again for truth

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RE: Shaved - 3/26/2010 1:32:45 AM

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shaving the cunt for a submissive or slave is an act of enslavement or submission and allows the Dominant or Master to see and feel everything unfettered by pubic hair - as well, it's more attractive in an erotic sense....

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RE: Shaved - 3/26/2010 2:36:54 AM

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All the "what nature / god intended" stuff here ... I ponder if anyone in favour of that position never uses cosmetics / fragrance / visited a hairdresser etc. ?

Shaving is hygienic, as is a nice close trim.

As for the pre pubescent bit ... I've only ever come across that view from anti porn campaigners trying to make out that all porn with shaved female models/actresses is just paedophilia in disguise. Which is, of course, clearly the mindless bollox type stuff that fanatics like that spout.

I'm practical minded, shaved is more sensitive (and, one could argue, saves on the lube bill lol) and a neat trim is also suitably hygienic, both of which make for a nice bit of fun when shared. I can't however agree more with the "no dental floss please" gang here ... but without this thread, no one could guess that ... since there's no option in the profile editor here to list pubic dental floss as a "Hard Limit" ... perhaps there should be ?

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RE: Shaved - 3/26/2010 3:18:37 AM

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My Husband has grown a massive beard over this winter...

no hair gets stuck in my teeth when we French kiss
His mouth is not less moist than it was before He grew the beard
He surely is not cleaner or dirtier than He was without the beard
I love the way the beard feels against my skin
His face is not less sensitive... off course when the beard will be shaved off, first it will seem more sensitive, but soon it will feel just the same as it did before
The beard is very nice to touch and run your fingers through, maybe playfully pull it at times
It has kept His face warm all winter
He has found it an absolute delight not to have to bother to shave all the time.
We saved some money on razorblades and foam

And when the beard will be shaved off soon He will look so different again, it will make for a lovely change.

it is not really a dominant or submissive thing to grow hair or shave it off...
it just is a thing to do
it is very common for people to either grow or cut or shave their hair, where ever it grows

Shaving or not shaving can be made into a DS thing,
it can be very intimate to shave eachother,
or shaving because you are told to do so,
or order someone to grow it,
or having to accept the other growing it
or having it shaved off against your will

and when we get really old we will go grey there and then be bald there too

maybe it is a good idea to enjoy the hair at times while it still grows

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RE: Shaved - 3/26/2010 12:57:21 PM

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I've never had an issue with girlfriends but I do prefer something down there. If it was too much I'd have no problem asking them to trim, but I've never had a female lover who was too bushy.
I'm a little pickier with men, I like them trimmed but I hate completely clean-shaven guys...it reminds me of the passage in The Bell Jar when Ms. Plath compares a penis to a turkey neck. I love giving oral, but there is nothing sexy about that.
As far as mine, I like to change it up. I like my pussy, I don't want to get bored with how it looks! Sometimes I shave completely (and I have been with men who prefer this), usually it's trimmed in a nice geometrical patch, and sometimes I'll let it grow a bit. The boyfriend loves going down on me, and he has no complaints about a change of scenery ;)

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RE: Shaved - 3/26/2010 6:58:52 PM

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I personally clean up a lot of the undergrowth, because I prefer it that way for daily use. I've only got one bit that habitually breaks out, so I leave it alone. I've had no complaints. (grin)

Do I order my subs to shave? It depends on the sub. Too much fur gets in the way of CBT, but a light coating of hair is probably more trouble to take off than it is to leave on. If he is into being controlled heavily, though, requiring him to shave and keep things bare for me is a nice way to remind him of his status in a quiet, everyday fashion.

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RE: Shaved - 3/26/2010 11:25:23 PM

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I know that there is a belief that shaved pussies enable additional sensations and that might be true for some but I find it to be a load of crap. I have been both shaved and not shaved and the difference is nonexistent. If an individual is good at it they are good at it and their partner will get off unless they don't believe they can without it... and sex is 99 percent in the brain anyway.

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Bushwhacked, How Common Is It - 3/27/2010 12:03:46 AM

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ORIGINAL: kinkygal

Why is a naked pussy a MUST in any relationship? Every Dom i talk to insist that I be shaved.
What is it about having a hairless pussy? If it was meant to be hairless God would have made it that way.
Am i wrong in thinking that maybe they have a wish to be with a girl who has not reached puberty?
Im just trimmed nice and short...wont get any hairs stuck in your teeth if you go down on me.
We dont ask our Masters to be clean shaven do we? We accept them with their overgrown jungle and we still suck them off.

Yes, there's a lot of Doms/Masters/Tops/insert-your-own-classification who do prefer this, but it IS very ubiquitous across societies now. Check out any "Girls Gone Wild" type video. Unshaven is much rarer than shaved, at least among THOSE girls. And that's in Ft. Lauderdale, Rio de Janeiro, Ibiza, you name it. MAYbe a "landing strip" of some sort but certainly bush-whacked to some degree.

I can recall being somewhat nervous when my eldest son at 13 (he's now 22) asked me what I thought about girls who shaved. I considered for a moment before saying "you mean their legs?" and he blushed and guffawed a bit before he said, "no, down 'there'". He told me girls his age were shaving 'down there'. When I asked, a tad UNcooly for a kewl Dad, "and you know this how?", it seems they discussed it rather openly. The following discussion was about safe sex and the difference between being in love and being in heat.

When I talked about this with a woman I knew who was also a single parent, SHE mentioned walking in on her youngest daughter, also 13, shaving "down there". When she asked her why she did that, her response was "I want to look like you and [her elder sister who was 19]".

As to preferences, well.... for oral sex, which THIS Master does do, quite Masterfully, it's just neater. It's also better for pussy spanking/whipping, plus doing a degree of modification for my sake is a bit of a perk I enjoy. It's an more absolute degree of nakedness. And, I too have slicked the pole, and kind of like it that way sometimes, especially when my slave greets it with enthusiasm. The only issue I have is, we guys let it swing in the locker room, and being shaved is a bit of a "Hmmm..." moment in there.

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RE: Shaved - 3/27/2010 12:11:19 AM

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I know that there is a belief that shaved pussies enable additional sensations and that might be true for some but I find it to be a load of crap. I have been both shaved and not shaved and the difference is nonexistent. If an individual is good at it they are good at it and their partner will get off unless they don't believe they can without it... and sex is 99 percent in the brain anyway.

Agreed.

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RE: Shaved - 3/27/2010 2:02:57 AM

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I know that there is a belief that shaved pussies enable additional sensations and that might be true for some but I find it to be a load of crap. I have been both shaved and not shaved and the difference is nonexistent. If an individual is good at it they are good at it and their partner will get off unless they don't believe they can without it... and sex is 99 percent in the brain anyway.

You're lasr sentence is exactly why, for some of us, it does enanble additional sensation. While there may be no difference in the purely physical sensation... the psychological effect of feeling vulnerable and exposed can take sensation to a much higher level.

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RE: Shaved - 3/28/2010 11:47:45 AM

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Hi,
Now I've never told a sub to shave her pubic hair. My current sub did it on her own. What is it about a shaved puss? It's the fact that you can see the cunt lips. If she's hairy, you can't see, but can only imagine or feel it.

I did not, nor will I, tell a sub to shave her pubic area.

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RE: Shaved - 3/28/2010 11:35:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: rubyrain

I know that there is a belief that shaved pussies enable additional sensations and that might be true for some but I find it to be a load of crap. I have been both shaved and not shaved and the difference is nonexistent. If an individual is good at it they are good at it and their partner will get off unless they don't believe they can without it... and sex is 99 percent in the brain anyway.

Agreed.

but ive been with plenty of women that DO prefer and DO say its much more sensitive to them being shaved...so, seems like its a case of "to each their own".. for me, i like shaved... both sexes... just sayin.. :)

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RE: Shaved - 3/28/2010 11:42:16 PM

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the nipple piercings didnt do anything for me either.

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RE: Shaved - 3/29/2010 10:59:15 AM

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How about the old hound dogs, they can find prey in the brush

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RE: Shaved - 3/29/2010 11:07:27 AM

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

If you don't like his conditions, move on and wait for one who's conditions you like. Or, just deal with it. Shaved pussies will enable you to feel more sensation during cunniligus anyways so why not try it! ;-) Oh, and if you feel prepubescent, try to negotiate a little hair on top.

- LA

I figure you must like the sloppy kind, because hair does not grow on my clit, and I feel no different shaved bare or neatly trimmed when his face is between my legs... unless you mean his stubble scratching at your sensitive bare skin and making a rash.

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RE: Shaved - 3/30/2010 2:22:37 AM

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ORIGINAL: jbcurious

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ORIGINAL: rubyrain

I know that there is a belief that shaved pussies enable additional sensations and that might be true for some but I find it to be a load of crap. I have been both shaved and not shaved and the difference is nonexistent. If an individual is good at it they are good at it and their partner will get off unless they don't believe they can without it... and sex is 99 percent in the brain anyway.

You're lasr sentence is exactly why, for some of us, it does enanble additional sensation. While there may be no difference in the purely physical sensation... the psychological effect of feeling vulnerable and exposed can take sensation to a much higher level.

It only makes a difference in sensation after you FIRST shave the pussy bald... within no time at all it will just feel as it did with hair... (minus the sensation of having your pubes pulled...ofcourse, you can not pull at pubes that are not there)
So the argument about it being more sensitive is indeed crap if you shave ALL the time as many many females seem to do nowadays.

Also the feeling more vulnerable is only after the hair is FIRST shaved off, because if you shave it all the time then it simply becomes the way things are down there and not MORE vulnerable at all... you might argue that you would feel much more vulnerable with a few days embarrassing stubble down there or with a full bush even if you know the man wants it all bald (or pretends to like it bald for the session)

It is also totally ridiculous to think people without hair are cleaner... the hair is there exactly for hygienic reasons... shaving it all off causes more unhygienic sweat and slime to drip into your knickers and make a stink than a lovely barrier of pubes, they keep smell and juice where it belongs; IN your cunt.
This is maybe why so many girls with bald twats wear them ridiculous panty liners with wings all the time, and use perfumed pussy spray fresheners, yuck

And i think men who shave their pubes look like they are taking part in some medical tests or maybe a delousing program in a prisoners camp, other than for a laugh i do not think a bald prick looks good at all.

everybody to their own of course

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