Louve00
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ORIGINAL: Lucienne I find a lot to disagree with in the linked article. To begin with, the idea that "liberals" have a significant voice in the national conversation such that we set the terms of debate. Health care reform negotiations started with single-payer off the table. Liberals are not in charge here. If liberals were in charge, Rahm Emanuel would be forcefully retired to Alaska and kept busy ice fishing. The genuinely liberal voices mentioned in that article are far from the corridors of power. What... you've got writers, professors, and a damn comedian. And the former head of the DNC who is generally held in disdain by the Washington establishment despite having been very successful at the job. If you're catching a snide tone from actual liberals it's because no one ever fucking listens to us even when history proves us fucking right. It's not condescension. We don't have the power to condescend. It's frustration, impatience and impotence. Because conservatives are fucking morons and they're basically in charge. So, yeah, boo fucking hoo sorry your insecure little mind was offended while your horrible ideas ruin the fucking country. (ETA: The Daily Show and Colbert Report are gallows humor.) I mean seriously: quote:
Perhaps the most important conservative insight being depreciated is the durable warning from free-marketeers that government programs often fail to yield what their architects intend. Democrats have been busy expanding, enacting or proposing major state interventions in financial markets, energy and health care. Supporters of such efforts want to ensure that key decisions will be made in the public interest and be informed, for example, by sound science, the best new medical research or prudent standards of private-sector competition. But public-choice economists have long warned that when decisions are made in large, centralized government programs, political priorities almost always trump other goals. How many textbook examples of market failure do you jackasses have to see before you're willing to acknowledge that maybe, just maybe, sometimes a government program that doesn't work exactly as intended is better for the community than a free market that doesn't work exactly as intended? I doubt they'll ever see it, which is why the fight goes on and on, but I still think kittinSol said it best in post #6 (For some people its definitely worth posting and framing...oh, and giving to them as presents!)
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For the great majority of mankind are satisfied with appearance, as though they were realities and are often more influenced by the things that seem than by those that are. - Niccolo Machiavelli
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