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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 3/31/2010 7:45:24 PM

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Ok, so here's my answer....

People think it's ok to be mean to fat people. That's the beginning and end of it.
sunshine

Sunshine!!! You know me better than that! I am far from skinny, my point was that she said two entirely different things.

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 3/31/2010 7:47:05 PM

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Wait a second TFTB, this is your post on the other weight thread, polar opposite of what you just said. This is why fat threads mae me nuts, which is it? I am confused.

"Actually yes it is something I have chosen for myself. I refuse to eat right I refuse to exorcise And so there for I choose to be fat. It's not medical, it's not metabalisim problems, it's nothing but the fact I choose not to do anything about being fat. I got fat by stuffing my face day twice a day in and day out for about a year strait. by stuffing my face I mean having like 6 helpings. mine my seconds and 4 other people's plates. NowI didn't intend to get fat, but I did.

and I refuse to care that it bothers others I am fat."

....and THAT after claiming she got fat eating the food of some other girl so she wouldn't get in trouble.

yes and thanks zeph.

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 3/31/2010 8:03:57 PM

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I hate to be in disagreement with people I like.
This past summer (my time frame may be off) she posted extensively on her desire to adopt a healthier lifestyle... .
She used produce from her family's garden.
She cut out most pre-prepared foods and asked people for recommendations for healthy recipes.
It may not be "perfect" but it was a start.

Most of us who struggle with weight issues, struggle with food issues as well.
I know I don't do it perfectly and my guess is most of us with food issues don't do it perfectly either.

So, perhaps asking her might be a better option than jumping to conclusions.

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 4/1/2010 6:22:22 AM

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Ok, so here's my answer....

People think it's ok to be mean to fat people. That's the beginning and end of it.
sunshine

Agreed. There's nothing like an obvious target. Unlike drunks, druggies , smug people -these people aren't immediately obvious.

So I'm honestly not reading the thread, but you did answer me. And I'm not sure what you mean. Could you please explain?

Thank you.

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 4/1/2010 7:34:07 AM

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I hate to be in disagreement with people I like.
This past summer (my time frame may be off) she posted extensively on her desire to adopt a healthier lifestyle... .
She used produce from her family's garden.
She cut out most pre-prepared foods and asked people for recommendations for healthy recipes.
It may not be "perfect" but it was a start.

Most of us who struggle with weight issues, struggle with food issues as well.
I know I don't do it perfectly and my guess is most of us with food issues don't do it perfectly either.

So, perhaps asking her might be a better option than jumping to conclusions.

This.

The propensity of a few, to purposely jump on TFTB anytime the subject of weight comes up, is not flattering to the jumper at all. It makes them look like middle school bullies.

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 4/1/2010 1:27:49 PM

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I hate to be in disagreement with people I like.
This past summer (my time frame may be off) she posted extensively on her desire to adopt a healthier lifestyle... .
She used produce from her family's garden.
She cut out most pre-prepared foods and asked people for recommendations for healthy recipes.
It may not be "perfect" but it was a start.

Most of us who struggle with weight issues, struggle with food issues as well.
I know I don't do it perfectly and my guess is most of us with food issues don't do it perfectly either.

So, perhaps asking her might be a better option than jumping to conclusions.

This.

The propensity of a few, to purposely jump on TFTB anytime the subject of weight comes up, is not flattering to the jumper at all. It makes them look like middle school bullies.

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 4/1/2010 1:48:16 PM

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I see this is still going.

When you all have it figured out, send a memo ok?

Thanks
Jeff

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 4/1/2010 2:16:55 PM

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Ward, go eat some Cheetos.

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 4/1/2010 2:19:29 PM

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With BACON!

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 4/1/2010 5:54:58 PM

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Fat people can't hide their size, unlike drunks, druggies and smug people. Of course, prolonged exposure to drunks, druggies and smug people will usually show you the error of their ways - but fat is in your face.

Which makes fat people an easy target.

We all have something that is unattractive - some of us have somethings that are more obvious than others. *sigh* At least mine is able to be changed. Some peoples unattractive somethings can't be changed - ie addictions, personality traits.

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 4/1/2010 8:26:24 PM

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had a fasting blood sugar of 339

Could you please explain the significance of this? I've never heard the term "fasting blood sugar" before much less any numbers associated with it.

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 4/1/2010 8:27:34 PM

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I entirely understand that the proportions of obese people with actual inability to lose wieght is ten percent, tops. The rest are lazy and undisciplined. Welcome to reality.

Do you have a source for this claim?

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 4/1/2010 8:33:32 PM

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You were 30 pounds overweight, and suddenly you have some insight into obesity? I guess when my clit swells, I'll know what it's like to have a dick.

I hereby nominate you for poster of the week.

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 4/1/2010 8:47:07 PM

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 4/2/2010 4:29:26 AM

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We all have something that is unattractive - some of us have somethings that are more obvious than others. *sigh* At least mine is able to be changed. Some peoples unattractive somethings can't be changed - ie addictions, personality traits.

Actually....the tides on this thought process are changing when dealing with food addiction/compulsive overeating (and this is a good thing). It used to be thought that one who was overweight simply lacked self control, was uneducated as to proper nutrition, or was in a lower socioeconomic bracket (this one always made me roll my eyes). It was a hard sell, but now food addiction is seen as the same life long ILLNESS as alcoholism (although it goes without saying this view is from the medical community, not the insurance companies)

Proof of this (just my own personal opinion here) can be seen in those who have the Gastric Bypass/Banding procedures and untimely gain all of the lost weight back. The surgery did NOT cure the behavior.

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 4/2/2010 6:16:45 AM

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had a fasting blood sugar of 339

Could you please explain the significance of this? I've never heard the term "fasting blood sugar" before much less any numbers associated with it.

Glucose fasting blood sugar (FBS) is a test for diabetes mellitus. The fasting part means you don't eat or drink for 8-12 hours before the test. I believe 70-110 is the normal range, but I might be off on that.

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 4/2/2010 9:36:51 AM

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We all have something that is unattractive - some of us have somethings that are more obvious than others. *sigh* At least mine is able to be changed. Some peoples unattractive somethings can't be changed - ie addictions, personality traits.

Actually....the tides on this thought process are changing when dealing with food addiction/compulsive overeating (and this is a good thing). It used to be thought that one who was overweight simply lacked self control, was uneducated as to proper nutrition, or was in a lower socioeconomic bracket (this one always made me roll my eyes). It was a hard sell, but now food addiction is seen as the same life long ILLNESS as alcoholism (although it goes without saying this view is from the medical community, not the insurance companies)

Proof of this (just my own personal opinion here) can be seen in those who have the Gastric Bypass/Banding procedures and untimely gain all of the lost weight back. The surgery did NOT cure the behavior.

My daughter and I were just discussing this very thing the other night. She said she had an epiphany about her long struggle with weight and food. She said she realized that food is her heroin. Her crack. And that she realized she is going to have to deal with it just like she did booze and drugs.

The biggest problem for her, and millions of other people, is that we cannot stop eating completely. Add to that, food is our celebration. Every holiday, birthdays, a date night....it's a hard core, life long battle.

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 4/2/2010 9:42:27 AM

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The biggest problem for her, and millions of other people, is that we cannot stop eating completely. Add to that, food is our celebration. Every holiday, birthdays, a date night....it's a hard core, life long battle.

well said. The fact that food is a necessity makes it so much harder than other addictions.

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 4/2/2010 10:02:49 AM

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You were 30 pounds overweight, and suddenly you have some insight into obesity? I guess when my clit swells, I'll know what it's like to have a dick.

I hereby nominate you for poster of the week.

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 4/2/2010 4:52:31 PM

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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

I hate to be in disagreement with people I like.
This past summer (my time frame may be off) she posted extensively on her desire to adopt a healthier lifestyle... .
She used produce from her family's garden.
She cut out most pre-prepared foods and asked people for recommendations for healthy recipes.
It may not be "perfect" but it was a start.

Most of us who struggle with weight issues, struggle with food issues as well.
I know I don't do it perfectly and my guess is most of us with food issues don't do it perfectly either.

So, perhaps asking her might be a better option than jumping to conclusions.

This.

The propensity of a few, to purposely jump on TFTB anytime the subject of weight comes up, is not flattering to the jumper at all. It makes them look like middle school bullies.

Okay since I assume I was one of the "jumpers" I have to speak up. I am far from a middle school bully. I am 43 years old, I have my own health issues, and my Man has type 2 diabetes. If you took the time to read my posts, I, as well as Holly, have been more than fair to her. Not to drag Holly into this, but she did comment on my post to her in a positive way. I saw two different statments from her and I don't have the inclination to dig for the others, but the propensity of her posts are full of excuses why she can't lose weight and they go from one end of the spectrum to the other. I don't like being called a schoolyard bully, I am not one, I am just being fucking realistic. I can read and discern for myself, and I see people that *never* defend her suddenly because it is a fat thread all of a sudden being her knight in shining armor. Not realistic.

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