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ORIGINAL: Aynne88

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ


I hate to be in disagreement with people I like.
This past summer (my time frame may be off) she posted extensively on her desire to adopt a healthier lifestyle... .
She used produce from her family's garden.
She cut out most pre-prepared foods and asked people for recommendations for healthy recipes.
It may not be "perfect" but it was a start.

Most of us who struggle with weight issues, struggle with food issues as well.
I know I don't do it perfectly and my guess is most of us with food issues don't do it perfectly either.

So, perhaps asking her might be a better option than jumping to conclusions.

This.

The propensity of a few, to purposely jump on TFTB anytime the subject of weight comes up, is not flattering to the jumper at all. It makes them look like middle school bullies.

Okay since I assume I was one of the "jumpers" I have to speak up. I am far from a middle school bully. I am 43 years old, I have my own health issues, and my Man has type 2 diabetes. If you took the time to read my posts, I, as well as Holly, have been more than fair to her. Not to drag Holly into this, but she did comment on my post to her in a positive way. I saw two different statments from her and I don't have the inclination to dig for the others, but the propensity of her posts are full of excuses why she can't lose weight and they go from one end of the spectrum to the other.  I don't like being called a schoolyard bully, I am not one, I am just being fucking realistic.  I can read and discern for myself, and  I see people that *never* defend her suddenly because it is a fat thread all of a sudden being her knight in shining armor. Not realistic.

Edited to add this was not meant to LaT, just a fast reply.

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I could be fucking realistic also..........but what I would have to say would be unnecessary and cruel. However, I am a sadist........I enjoy being cruel.

Please let me know when consent is given. Because, until then, I am going to be an adult and keep my opinions of some grown adults that do not always behave in the most admirable manner, to myself.

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

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had a fasting blood sugar of 339

Could you please explain the significance of this? I've never heard the term "fasting blood sugar" before much less any numbers associated with it.

Glucose fasting blood sugar (FBS) is a test for diabetes mellitus. The fasting part means you don't eat or drink for 8-12 hours before the test. I believe 70-110 is the normal range, but I might be off on that.

Pretty accurate, thb.

Non-diabetic is 99 or under, pre-diabetic is 100 to 125, diabetic is 126 or higher.

Change can happen rapidily, as I had a fasting reading of only 106 two years prior to the 339 one.

Serious damage really begins to occur at 140 and higher, according to most sources that I follow.

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Okay since I assume I was one of the "jumpers" I have to speak up. I am far from a middle school bully. I am 43 years old, I have my own health issues, and my Man has type 2 diabetes. If you took the time to read my posts, I, as well as Holly, have been more than fair to her. Not to drag Holly into this, but she did comment on my post to her in a positive way. I saw two different statments from her and I don't have the inclination to dig for the others, but the propensity of her posts are full of excuses why she can't lose weight and they go from one end of the spectrum to the other. I don't like being called a schoolyard bully, I am not one, I am just being fucking realistic. I can read and discern for myself, and I see people that *never* defend her suddenly because it is a fat thread all of a sudden being her knight in shining armor. Not realistic.

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ORIGINAL: kiwisub12

Fat people can't hide their size, unlike drunks, druggies and smug people. Of course, prolonged exposure to drunks, druggies and smug people will usually show you the error of their ways - but fat is in your face.

Which makes fat people an easy target.

We all have something that is unattractive - some of us have somethings that are more obvious than others. *sigh* At least mine is able to be changed. Some peoples unattractive somethings can't be changed - ie addictions, personality traits.

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ORIGINAL: jbcurious

This is always a controversial issue because people who don't have a battle with weight can be so damn patronizing about it, myself included, before weight became an issue for me.

I maintained a weight of 97 to 103 lbs until after my pregnancy, during I only gained 17 lbs.

Pregnancy triggered something in my body and for years, regardless of diet and exercise I slowly gained weight. At one point I spent 6 months on 1000 calories a day, rode my bike 5 miles a day and spent 1.5 hours twice a day at the gym...the result after 6 months... a loss of 4 lbs.

By age 37 my weight had reached 212 lbs. I had a full hysterectomy and suddenly began to see some results in weight loss and over the next 10 years my weight dropped to 168.

It appears that this is where my body feels comfortable, because I haven't been able to lose any additional weight.

My last physical the Doc said my health is that of someone 10 years younger, blood pressure ideal, heart, liver etc excellent, lung scan clear... in spite of the fact that I am over weight and smoke.

He was a little shocked after having given me the standard lectures on my previous visit...

At this stage there probably is a way for me to drop the next 30 lbs... but to be completly honest...I'm sick and tired of the effort and frustrated watching those around me who maintain an ideal weight with no effort (I know that many do put out effort, but there are many that don't)

So at this stage I would need some loving support, and lot's and lot's of good sex before trying to tackle tge next 30 lbs.

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I'd say a deranged insulin response is the prime culprit in overweight

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ORIGINAL: Level

Morning, holls. I agree, but I honestly think things are sloooooooowly changing. Just the fact that more and more mainstreamers are willing to look at it is an issue is an improvement.

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Okay since I assume I was one of the "jumpers" I have to speak up. I am far from a middle school bully. I am 43 years old, I have my own health issues, and my Man has type 2 diabetes. If you took the time to read my posts, I, as well as Holly, have been more than fair to her. Not to drag Holly into this, but she did comment on my post to her in a positive way. I saw two different statments from her and I don't have the inclination to dig for the others, but the propensity of her posts are full of excuses why she can't lose weight and they go from one end of the spectrum to the other. I don't like being called a schoolyard bully, I am not one, I am just being fucking realistic. I can read and discern for myself, and I see people that *never* defend her suddenly because it is a fat thread all of a sudden being her knight in shining armor. Not realistic.

I really see no bullying going on here. Aynne is the last person who fits that title, and my intention was certainly not to cause harm. I can only speak for myself and my response, but would have said the same thing to one who was not obese.

When someone eats sparatically, then gorges enough to maintain their weight, it is Bulimia sans purging, more commonly known as binge eating.
The behavior generally is an indication that the person has a lack on control over what they are doing.
I am nearly certain i have discussed this with TFTB in c-mail also, so what i said was not new to her.
Binge eating is brutal to the digestive tract. There is basically starvation followed by gorging, followed by starvation, followed by...you get the idea. The stomach, in starvation mode, will turn its acid onto itself, probably resulting in the thrill of a bleeding ulcer over time. I have a bleeder (nicknamed it TheLittleSquirt, and i would not wish an active GI bleed on my worst enemy).
Nutrition is absorbed in the small intestine. There is no way in hell the small intestine can pull all the needed nutrients out if the food eaten after one has binged. No way, not happening, fergitit. So as a result there is generally a serious lack of the essential nutrients needed to be healthy. It is so hard to imagine that someone sitting there gorging on massive amounts of food is starving themselves by doing so, but that is exactly what is happening.

The person who is binge eating can/might deny any serious health issues, and in all probability is telling the truth, because these issues do take a while to surface. When the binge eater is 30 yrs old, she will more than likely have the GI system of a 60 yr old. What she will have at 60 is anyones guess.

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

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I'd say a deranged insulin response is the prime culprit in overweight

i agree, and yet the (simple) blood test for insulin resistance is rarely done on one who is overweight. This makes no sense at all.

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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

I'm very busy...

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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ
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My post was certainly not intended as an attack on anyone...it was an expression of a frustration point for me that is related to my own odd relationship with food.
If changing eating patterns were an easy thing then most people would not be overweight.

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ORIGINAL: HisSweetElysium

Jeff I loooove your new picture!