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RE: Do you think my master is being fair? - 3/28/2010 12:58:37 PM   
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i cant believe Dominants buy into this crap


lally2, I'm sure you've noticed that on these boards, and to a lesser degree in real life, dominant is not necessarily synonymous with smart, clever, wise, clued-in or mastering any high order cognitive skills whatsoever ;-)

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/Asks LadyAngelika to explain her completely obtuse post/


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RE: Do you think my master is being fair? - 3/28/2010 1:49:31 PM   
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What part of my post do you take issue with Steven? I'm certainly not qualifying the lot of dominants with this, otherwise I'd be insulting my own self ;-)

lally2 seemed to get it right away. All I'm essentially saying is that just because an individual slaps the label dominant on their chest doesn't mean they are going to be a smart dominant or a good dominant. And I've witnessed quite a bit of this here. I usually keep my mouth shut about it but this time I said something...

All we have is the OP's account of what is going on so I can only address that. But from her account, the guy just seems to have no clue how to deal with disciplinary issues. My previous posts explain how I come to this conclusion.

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RE: Do you think my master is being fair? - 3/28/2010 2:32:13 PM   
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I think Steven was kidding, LA. And judging by the op for instance, the label of submissive also doesn't convey being smart, clever, wise etc.

But I stand by my conviction that her master isn't smart or competent at identifying problems and solving them. Because a 33 year old doesn't willingly find herself without funds while she's had to close an account and wait for new cards to come in on a regular basis. She could simply be under huge amounts of stress if this behavior is new, or she could have an undiagnosed issue that causes it. I'm voting for the second.


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RE: Do you think my master is being fair? - 3/28/2010 4:07:00 PM   
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@ i don't know who,

i am one of the "newbies" but only to posting. i agree with what was said about the drama. i have had numerous so called friends over the years who were into nothing but drama at every turn. It's annoying, childish and mindless. i refuse to be drawn in by anyone who can't refrain from such behavior.

That being said, i am the one most likely to lose keys, drinks, books, eye glasses, whatever else comes to mind. i now keep my keys in a basket by the door along with my sunglasses. Doesn't mean i always remember to put them there, but i try my best. My short term memory is shot all to hell. Thanks to suffering from depression, anxiety, stress and the myriad of medication i have been on for the last 10 yrs.

Anyone who would be willing to be Dominant to my submission would indeed have a full plate. But i also have a lot to offer. And i hope that the Dom/Master who chooses me would be willing to help me find a better solution to my problem. It would be something that would be negotiated before going into any relationship. I don't hide that i suffer from depression et al, it's a part of my every day life. Not easy for anyone to deal with, but a reality.

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RE: Do you think my master is being fair? - 3/28/2010 4:08:52 PM   
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I think Steven was kidding, LA.


Well I wasn't sure to be honest, which is why I explained. Sometimes we misread things. I did that just the other day on another thread and the clarification was helpful.

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RE: Do you think my master is being fair? - 3/28/2010 4:14:13 PM   
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First of all what is the point of your post? Are you looking for someone to agree with you and tell you your Master is unfair so you can argue with him and have some support for it? Is not the punishments you might receive a thing between yourself and your Master? The case is this, you chose to enter a D/s relationship and submit to this man, then you have to live with the consequences of that and live by his rules or leave, or at least take it up with him how punishments are to work in your relationship.

That being said, yes I think your Master is fair. You obviously are to careless with things, probably he is just trying to help to improve on this so you do not end up loosing something really valuable one day. I would recommend that you stop complaining and just accept the punishment.

Besides a D/s relationship is not a democracy. It usually is not fair, it is one person submitting to the desires of another. I do not know the nature of your relationship, it might be structured differently. However in most D/s relationships whatever the Dom or Master wants go. It do not have to be fair.

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RE: Do you think my master is being fair? - 3/28/2010 10:25:38 PM   
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i'm not sure why you are even asking others if it's fair, you wouldnt of asked if you thought it was.
and that doesnt mean i agree with you 


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RE: Do you think my master is being fair? - 3/29/2010 12:00:58 AM   
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Hi. I never expected this post to cause so much debate. Too many issues raised to deal with them all but first and foremost I am new to this and the concept of posting and saw this site as somewhere to generally raise things that you can't discuss with friends (our friends see us as having a 'norma' relationship and this side of things we keep private to us)l who don't understand dominant or submissive ways. Perhaps you have ways you like to post and I need to understand these. As for my master, he's never punished me before for loosing things - this is the first time so it's not a case of repeated similar pubishment for the same offence. As for the dynamics of out relationship, I love all aspects of the Dom-sub way of life. I love the fact that I have a very strong male in my life who guides me through things. I respect him so much and this relationship isn't what we originally started off as, it's just developed into this. We have found that I naturally like to be submissive ad he naturally likes to be dominant. Also this forum is probably my only forum where I can publicly talk about our relationship Hence the posts. Anyway, thanks to all her responded. Oh and someone asked how long we've been together - it's over two years. Our relationship has developed into this direction over the course of about the last 15/16 months. Thanks again. X

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RE: Do you think my master is being fair? - 3/29/2010 12:24:38 AM   
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Do you get that a yummy ass-beating can be just for fun? That it doesn't have to be punishment at all? That a punishment/reward dynamic is not essential to good D/s unless both of you want it?

If you want FUNishment, you should be able to just ask for it.

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RE: Do you think my master is being fair? - 3/29/2010 1:22:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: dreamerdreaming

Do you get that a yummy ass-beating can be just for fun? That it doesn't have to be punishment at all? That a punishment/reward dynamic is not essential to good D/s unless both of you want it?

If you want FUNishment, you should be able to just ask for it.


hopefully she will and people wont get drawn into this whole disengenuous pity party ploy anymore.

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RE: Do you think my master is being fair? - 3/29/2010 2:51:42 AM   
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But its just so awful! She'll surely cry!!! And she'll most likely be sore for days!

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RE: Do you think my master is being fair? - 3/29/2010 4:41:36 AM   
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Greetings

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Hi. I never expected this post to cause so much debate. Too many issues raised to deal with them all but first and foremost I am new to this and the concept of posting and saw this site as somewhere to generally raise things that you can't discuss with friends


This site is that. However, remember that even if this is the kind of place where pepole will not think you strange for being a sub or a slave there are still many things best kept between the parties involved in a relationship. The question on what punishments should be used and when and where is between you and your Master, how do it matter what random pepole on an internet forum think about it?

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Perhaps you have ways you like to post and I need to understand these.


It is not the way you post which creates debate it is what is contained in the posts. A. You are being punished for a thing I think it is completely fair that you are being punished for. However the problem is you ask random strangers for advice on something which is extremely individual inside relationships. One D/s relationship is not like another. In some relationships the sub would be beaten red and blue for daring to sit on the furniture without leave or for looking into his or her Dom's eyes, in other relationships the sub can do about anything she pleases unless the Dom gives a specific order and punishments are hardly ever used. People on the internet can not say what is fair in your relationship, only you and your Master can say that. B. Your post sounded a bit whiny, I do not mean to be rude, but it did, it sounded like you where  trying to gather support for your post of view among pepole on the internet instead of talking with your Master.

I wish you well


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RE: Do you think my master is being fair? - 3/29/2010 4:46:22 AM   
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Do you get that a yummy ass-beating can be just for fun? That it doesn't have to be punishment at all? That a punishment/reward dynamic is not essential to good D/s unless both of you want it?


Off course a round of spanking can be for fun. But as it is presented as a punishment let us assume that that is what it is. And no a punishment/reward dynamic is not essential to good D/s, when I was a slave I was not punished once. Yes we played often and I was spanked and whipped and quite a few other things, but it was always a very clear separation between a beating for punishment and a beating for fun. Personally I could never be with a Dom who called play punishment. If a Dom want to play he should be man enough or woman enough to call it play and not pretend that it is punishment. The sub will never learn if punishment and play are mixed together.

I wish you well


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RE: Do you think my master is being fair? - 3/29/2010 8:00:49 AM   
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Leave fair out of it---the choice quite honestly is up to you---you can say no.

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RE: Do you think my master is being fair? - 3/29/2010 10:05:43 AM   
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Leave fair out of it---the choice quite honestly is up to you---you can say no.


That would depend on the relationship. Many D/s relationships is based on total submission, the sub can not say no, he or she can leave the relationship, but while in the relationship the sub do not get to negotiate with the Dom and do not get the privilege to refuse and order.

I wish you well


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RE: Do you think my master is being fair? - 3/29/2010 10:46:31 AM   
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Sometimes things I have been asked to do or even rarely punishment I have received seem peculiar, out of proportion or whatnot, however I surrender. I have found that even if I did not see the wisdom at the time, Master has helped me grow, become more responsible and I always discover why he had me do something by simply surrendering to his will. If it was only about what I wanted or if I was taking thought was best over what he thought, it wouldn't be submission.

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RE: Do you think my master is being fair? - 3/29/2010 10:53:00 AM   
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Fair it seems fair to me it is what you signed on for. Of course if you are losing thing to get a beating why don't you just ask him for a beating? I know if i asked for a spanking my Master would be more than happy to oblige me. You are disrespecting you Master by coming on here and complaing about your punishment. The one time i got punished i knew what i was being punished for and after we talked about it. Master would be more upset with me if i tried to get out of it. You earned this punishment so just be a big girl and take it. Talk to your Master about maybe having a certain place in the house to keep important papers so you don't lose them and after you leave the bank or a store ck to make sure you have your cards i always try to do that. Best wishes.

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RE: Do you think my master is being fair? - 3/29/2010 12:00:13 PM   
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OP,
It sounds like you've been very careless & not just with simple sticky notes, you lost your bank card numerous times & boarding tickets? I'd say he's been very patient so far.
Accept your punishment, do not try to negotiate. Just mentally prepare yourself for Thurs. & know that once it's over you'll have another chance to prove yourself.

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RE: Do you think my master is being fair? - 3/29/2010 12:10:13 PM   
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To the OP

If it was me, I would baby-walk you through cleaning the entire house, top to bottom, left to right, front to back as if you were an infant to make you be organized which would be finished within one single 24 hour period.  Then if you lost something else, more strident punishments than a spanking would be initiated.

And once the entire house was done, I would still paddle your ass until you couldn't walk for an hour, much less sit for a week for making me take the time to baby you when you are an adult and should be able to handle keeping track of something as simple as cards.

I actually believe your Master is letting you get off light. Quit your bitching, grow the fuck up and take responsibility for your actions.

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RE: Do you think my master is being fair? - 3/29/2010 12:10:48 PM   
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i cant believe Dominants buy into this crap

sign of a 'do me' masso - repeatedly phucks up and makes no attempt to improve for the sake of her Master or relationship.

Approaching this from a different angle...
OP...see a medical professional. If in fact you have honestly lost that many items in that short of a time frame,you need to rule out a medical condition.

though i seriously suspect the op is a sam...


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