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ORIGINAL: mastersslut69

Hi
Does anyone still wonder if the punishment is proportionate to the crime or do you never question even to yourself masters discipline?

Basically I lost something, just a train travel pass, and I told master. He's hit the roof as he's says I'm careless and even though it's now turned up I'm told I'm getting punished for it. I know this will involve me bent over, spanked with his hand and then belt until I can't sit down for days. He says that if I can't sit down maybe it'll remind me to be careful with stuff. I guess I know I deserve punishment because he's told me enough times to be careful as I've lost about 3 bank cards and my train pass already this past 6 months but I just don't want my spanking? I've tried talking him round and he asked me to suggest an alternative discipline but I can't???? Do others try and negotiate out of disciplines or do you just take it without question. My spanking will be thursday night as he's away till then and I'm sure I'll cry.

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ORIGINAL: Shyla

Do you think you're being fair to him by openly questioning and doubting him in a public forum while demonstrating that you would rather listen to the opinions of strangers than what he has already said to you?

You aren't really asking for "fairness" here. You are asking "is my M-type wrong?" without really giving enough information for anyone to provide an informed opinion. If you think he is wrong perhaps you should speak respectfully and gracefully with him with your only intention to ask him to please hear you. The decision is still his.

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

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ORIGINAL: Justme696

I don't think loosing so much stuff will be solved with punishment
He needs to learn you how to be tidy...but ok...some only punish..and don't teach...it is the easy way.

Let's put the D/s portion aside for a moment.

The OP has issues with losing things and misplacing things. There are a few possible explanations for this. Possibly she just has an absent minded personality. One is that she is stressed or overwhelmed and this is leaving her distracted. Then again, this can be a sign of depression. And of course, she could just be careless.

I don't see how physical punishment is going to fix any of these really, except for maybe the last one. I fact I would add that punishing you without addressing the issue of why you are losing and misplacing things is irresponsible.

I know that back before we understood dyslexia and other learning disabilities and that physical punishment was allowed in schools, many a child got beaten for their learning difficulties. And of course, this did not solve the learning difficulties.

OP, if you dynamic is set up that you are going to be physically punished for these things, then it's best you accept what you agreed to. But I would ask him if after the punishment, he might help you figure out why you have this pattern. Then once you get to the root of the problem, you can start working on it to avoid further punishment.

- LA

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

We don't have a punishment dynamic.

However if you habitually lose things, I would wonder if perhaps you are ADD/ADHD. If so, then being punished for having a disease is inappropriate.

Are you careless or are you disorganized? If the latter, then ask him to help you become better organized. For instance do you use one purse only or several? If several, then get one multipurpose one and don't take your wallet out of it. Always put your cards back into the wallet directly after using them and put the wallet back into the purse.

I myself don't see much purpose in punishing you and not helping you solve the problem. You decide if you need help from your dominant in such cases and if so, then next time look for a dominant willing to help you problem solve. It's a lot easier for him to wail on you than it is to help you think of solutions. Probably he isn't able to help you think of solutions and that's why he's resorting to this.

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ORIGINAL: Focus50

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ORIGINAL: mastersslut69

Hi
Does anyone still wonder if the punishment is proportionate to the crime or do you never question even to yourself masters discipline?

Basically I lost something, just a train travel pass, and I told master. He's hit the roof as he's says I'm careless and even though it's now turned up I'm told I'm getting punished for it. I know this will involve me bent over, spanked with his hand and then belt until I can't sit down for days. He says that if I can't sit down maybe it'll remind me to be careful with stuff. I guess I know I deserve punishment because he's told me enough times to be careful as I've lost about 3 bank cards and my train pass already this past 6 months but I just don't want my spanking? I've tried talking him round and he asked me to suggest an alternative discipline but I can't???? Do others try and negotiate out of disciplines or do you just take it without question. My spanking will be thursday night as he's away till then and I'm sure I'll cry.

For mine, this is borderline abusive....

I'm just not convinced that belting someone so they can't sit for days will help sloppy habits such as losing things. But it sounds like a good way to promote fear and encourage you to keep secrets from him in the hope the lost whatever turns up.

You're losing too many things - you need a better method. That's where he should get involved; it's called positive reinforcement. Any mindless arsewipe can beat a girl up, esp if she's a "willing" punching bag....

Focus.