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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/23/2010 12:58:58 PM   
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You really have no concept of sarcasm, do you?

That wasn't a demand, that was an insult.

You're a grown man, and you ought to be able to tell the difference.


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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/23/2010 1:31:33 PM   
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Shhhhhhhh...........if it works, it's a demand!

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/23/2010 2:02:47 PM   
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you ladies make my day lol

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/23/2010 2:14:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MissAsylum

you ladies make my day lol

Mine too!  I still owe LaT $420 from last week for... um... never mind.


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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/23/2010 2:29:06 PM   
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This is fruitless to reply but I have some time to waste while I'm waiting for a call. Plus I figured that while my reply is directed at Kevin maybe it could do some good somewhere for someone else. Probably not but oh well...

Kevin, all of your comments on this thread are about you and what you think. You keep spouting off about what the world at large should do as seen through your eyes. You are but one inhabitant, you are lost in the crowd so to speak. Your views on what a Domme should charge are irrelevent, the loss of one potential customer will not change a thing as far as what all Dommes everywhere charge for their services. They have many more clients to take your place. If all the Dommes were suddenly out of work and then came knocking on your door then you could negotiate a cheaper rate but until that day you're stuck with what the person supplying the service is asking. Why? Because as it has been established, Dommes seem to have more than enough customers. Supply and demand. Thats what drives this subject.

If I have something to sell and it is in demand I can get a better price for it. Think of the must have toy that comes into the spotlight every Christmas. Whether it's Elmo or whatever, the toy everyone wants becomes more scarce as the populace buys up the current supply and therefore this toy goes up in price as people get them and resell them for more. The toy itself isn't magically worth more, it doesn't become made out of precious metals, people don't suddenly have to work twice as many hours to make them, this is the same item but it's worth more or less depending on how many people want it and how many are available to sell.

There are more clients than there are Dommes, therefore a Domme charges what the market will bear. There's another financial concept for you. If Elmo is rare and in demand, the price goes up because that is what the market will bear. If Elmo is plentiful and not in demand the price for Elmo goes back down. He may be worth a fair price of $25 but if no one wants him then the supplier or seller has to take less, or accept the loss of not selling his/her product. A $25 toy can be worth much more or much less depending on how many people want it. Therefore if you are selling something that people want, they will pay for it. It's the demand that drives the price, not what the individual customer wants. I'm sure lots of people wanted Elmos and didn't get them because they were too expensive. If you are willing to pay whatever the market will bear, scarcity doesn't matter. So, while Elmo was out of reach for most people when he reached astronomical prices, he was still available for purchase. If you Kevin cannot afford to pay 100$ for a session, that doesn't mean that the rest of the world also cannot afford to pay that. As long as Dommes have men paying them 100$, they will take it - therefore if the going price for a session is 100$ that means there are plenty of men out there paying it and that is what is driving the current price. It won't go down because you have moral standards that insist that 100$ is too much to pay. They'll pass you right on up and take the next man in line who has the 100$ to pay. And the next one, and the next one...

But hey, keep concentrating on your ego-centric view of the world and let me know how that's working for you when you find no Dommes that will work for the amount that you wish to pay. They don't have to take your offer, they have plenty of higher paying work elsewhere. It's asinine to think that someone should accept a lower wage when they could be getting paid much more. But don't listen to me, I'm a stupid business owner. I am part owner of several high end, successful restaurants (still making money in today's economy although it's harder). I can't know what I'm talking about.

I know you'll have some silly comment about how a high price for sessions is awful and it shouldn't be that way because you, Kevin, deem it so. Don't let me hold you back by being logical.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/23/2010 2:42:33 PM   
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After viewing your pictures I doubt you can command the big bucks. Aren't men smart enough to figure out that your first picture is just a come-on? Maybe the complaints here are true that men don't bother looking at profiles. sheesh!

Don't get me wrong, MissJana, I like mature women and I don't mind if they are heavy. The fact is most men aren't going to pay high dollars for any kind of woman unless she has a near perfect figure.



How incredibly rude. Someone posts here about the topic at hand and is subjected to your personal view on their looks. Who asked you? Another poster whose every single post reflects a me based view. Almost every post you make somehow reflects your neverending fascination with your own personal sexual gratification. You make leering comments on the attractions of the various other women posting on an open message board like that's what they're here for...to give your dick something else to get hard about. I can't imagine why your wife is not open to hearing you out about D/s after seeing how narcissistic you are.

Don't get me wrong, I like hard dicks and I like men, I happen to find your self-centered view of the world repugnant.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/23/2010 2:48:36 PM   
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I hope you don't mind, but I'm going to take your thorough analysis and break it down into teeny tiiiiny single sentence points because the editor in me loves brevity.

I've also messed with your continuity so that it fits *my* continuity. I'm unethical like that.

quote:

ORIGINAL: lizi

A $25 toy can be worth much more or much less depending on how many people want it.

Dommes seem to have more than enough customers.

If the going price for a session is 100$ that means there are plenty of men out there paying it and that is what is driving the current price.

It's the demand that drives the price, not what the individual customer wants.

The loss of one potential customer will not change a thing as far as what all Dommes everywhere charge for their services.

I'm sure lots of people wanted Elmos and didn't get them because they were too expensive.

It's asinine to think that someone should accept a lower wage when they could be getting paid much more.



I feel like I've accurately condensed what you were saying?

y/n/'fuck off and leave my writing alone VC'?


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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/23/2010 2:51:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

quote:

ORIGINAL: MissAsylum

you ladies make my day lol

Mine too!  I still owe LaT $420 from last week for... um... never mind.



Cash or credit card please!


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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/23/2010 2:52:54 PM   
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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate?

Depends on how many other prostitutes are operating in the area. Shop around, you will find varying rates, and as always, the price tag does not determine the quality of the poduct. Same with any other seller/service provider. Also remember that while they may call themselves dommes, they are asking for money to provide a service, they work for the client. If you don't like their prices or what they have to offer, simply move onto the next stall and see what they are selling.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/23/2010 3:52:38 PM   
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I charge $250 per hr based upon certain criteria. Domination included, and I am in NY State.

Dommes charge based upon not only what services they provide, however by what personal fetishes the client has themselves.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/23/2010 4:13:39 PM   
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Kevin, before you get worked up:

MsVengeange would have to work 0.3x the hours MissAsylum would, and 0.12x the hours a Domme working under your rates would, to make the same amount of money.

What MissA earns in an hour she earns in 18 minutes. What your fantasy Domme earns in an hour she earns in 7.2 minutes.

When we're faced with the reality of numbers like that, Kevin, your pricing system looks really really really really stupid.

Possibly I underestimated the number of reallys.

(edited because I rounded in my head, and I thought I would make it two minutes more exact.)


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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/23/2010 4:18:31 PM   
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ugh.

i feel cheap.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/23/2010 4:26:21 PM   
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So double your rates for new clients for a while-so long as you lose *less than half* of your potential new clients due to the price rise in this test period then you will still have made a profit.



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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/23/2010 6:35:50 PM   
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Will you be my new book keeper?

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/23/2010 6:44:20 PM   
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If I agree, you'll have to tell me what you did to Red, for him to owe you aaaaall that money 

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/24/2010 2:51:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

i just think a cap should be place on Dommes fees say $60 ., after all a cap is being placed on everything else including hiring suitable employees, as well as capping salaries of existing employees, with wage cuts for existing employees and tax increases
kevin



Yes, very true. Soon we will have a cap on carbon emissions, so why not on female services?

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/24/2010 4:33:43 AM   
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putting a cap on a LUXURY SERVICE.

Utterly rediculous.

I can't afford to eat caviar, dom perignon, frois grais, and a $1,000 sundae every single day of my life because i have bills, and go to school. So because I can't afford certain LUXURY food, its distributors should be charged for it or lower their prices?

*shakes head*

get over it- you don't want to pay to see a Domme, then DON'T FUCKING PAY.

find something more productive to do with your time besides whine and complain. Its not very becoming of a supposed grown man.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/24/2010 9:13:23 AM   
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If I pay you $80 once every ten days and a bonus $20 at end of month on top of $80 would You feel valued
thank you Ma'am
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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/24/2010 10:44:37 AM   
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the dribble that spews out our your mouth is concerning....

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/24/2010 11:25:54 AM   
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ill take that as a No
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