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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/15/2006 9:27:31 PM

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AAkasha wrote:

"A web site that was *free* for ten years on the Internet and has been a pay site for 8 months. You have to do better than that. Everyone here knows I have a real life career that has nothing to do with S&m and my personal bdsm relationships have nothing to do with cash. And, you obviously aren't reading the other thread on "body worship" where I go absolutely against the grain you present, telling subs that it's NOT about the fantasy if they are seeking a real relationship.

You also fail to point out that in addition to "online trainings" my site has the most comprehensive all-original "help" section for couples and women and my "good girls guide" is highly recommended as a help guide for women.

I could be posting all kinds of smut in the newsgroups and be a champion for the unrealistic, lonely sub (like yourself) who must rely on pro femdoms for any attention at all. You don't see me doing that at all. My web site is not a pay site for profit, it's a pay site to protect my copyright and discourage minors from accessing it. If I wanted to make money from it, I would have done it in 1998 forward."

Since it's a pay site so how would I know any of this? Duh!

Also since you also have a pay by money order my dog could theoretically join. Same thing goes with prepaid debit cards. So spare me the 'protect the children' bullshit.

And it makes you a prodomme, just not a successful one evidentally.

Eric

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/15/2006 9:31:51 PM

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/15/2006 9:51:58 PM

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Proprietrix wrote:

"Really lokisgodhi, although I have plenty of constructive things to say, it's clear by now that you don't listen. A good quality to learn might be to actually hear another person's words during conversation, instead of just waiting for your own turn to speak."

Silly me I didn't know that I was required to believe wholeheartedly in whatever you say. That *IS* in the the collarme.com terms of service?

"I don't know why you feel so bitter, or why you would hang out in the community you feel that bitterness toward. You're obviously not here to converse on any kind of adult level and anything I say will be construed as argumentative anyway, so I'll not waste the majority of my words."

Because there are a lot of people in the community whom I'm friends with and whose company I enjoy. Finding a domme is like gold mining you need a high pressure hose to wah away the mud and dirt so you can find the nugget that makes it all worthwhile.

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I've run a BDSM groups for 13 years. I've talked to about fifty sub men a year during that time and I've taken notes on our round table discussions about their opinions. I'm confident about my impressions about what they think. As for prodommes, college students and those who lack the education to hold living wage jobs in the real world. That's in NYC of couse. In LA I assume that unemployed actresses play a larger part, in FL I'll assume it's similar to NYC. Since in CA, FL and NYC combined there's more prodommes than the rest of the country, I feel comfortable assuming that the median here is the national median. I hold a degree in history and a minor in cultural geography. I'm currently working on a masters in history.

"Your "credentials" neither impress me, nor intimidate me. (You would have known that if you had taken the time to read my profile.) I can however admit that I find it rather scary that someone such as your self can lead a munch group and put such bitter thoughts in the heads of those new to the lifestyle."

If you're not impressed by credentials that why did you suggest getting some by going to community college? So let's recap, you dismiss ideas that you don't like on the grounds that they're not based on credentials but when you find out they are you quickly change the subject.

I suggest that the only 'credentials' you care about is that you agree with the ideas.

"But if we're going to toss around our degrees, mine were acquired in Sociology, Psychology, Criminology, and Criminal Justice. So, I guess I trump you anyway when it comes to discourse about subcultures of people."

I agree.

"Good luck on whatever your endeavors may be. (No need to reply. I've blocked you.)"

See what happens whenever I come across someone qualified to discuss the criminal and sociopathic behavior of dommes they run away. Rats.

Eric

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/15/2006 10:01:37 PM

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Now that's sound advice. Don't feed the trolls! TexasMaam

Oh the fun things you can say when they block you! LOLOL

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/15/2006 10:12:29 PM

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Ditto. TM

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/15/2006 11:21:03 PM

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Fair enough, I'll afford the same courtesy to you Porky. It appears you openly admit you have no self control when it comes to your eating habits, so using your own logic I would have to assume you wouldn't make much of a partner for anyone since you are obviously irresponsible.

OK, finally you speak about something from experience, I would bet you may even be a specialist at this skill. I am still amazed how you think insulting female Dominants is going to gain you anything but a lot of "block" buttons. By the way, better be careful, eating the entire deli may make your hair fall out.

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Scootertrash Funny as hell! If lokisgodhi paid attention at all, he too might get some before he drops dead of anger and sexual frustration. LMAO, M

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/15/2006 11:39:06 PM

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If lokisgodhi paid attention at all, he too might get some before he drops dead of anger and sexual frustration.

We could start a pool to see which of the "doom and gloom kids" gets some first

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/16/2006 1:51:17 AM

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I think its safe to say, you threw a rock into a hornet's nest.

I'll just say two things.

1) I agree with much you say, and I think you argue your case well. I don't really agree with the gallerly that b/c you are critical, you are embittered and therefore are nothing but dismissal worthy.

2) In terms of the criticism you've received, I thought the best comments were about your profile, and how it did not really set forth the positives you bring to the table for your prospective femdom. As you know, you cannot change the market or others, so effectiveness lies in how you adjust to the landscape and present yourself.

As for me, I prefer to establish a rapport through dialogue. With my own Mistress, I just got really lucky in the sense that our emails clicked. Our profiles had little to do with our eventual union.

What was interesting about reading your profile, though, was how in the description of your ideal Mistress --- I think you came fairly close to describing my own. What I really like about her is that she's not a scam artist, she's not an egomaniac, and she's not from the school that "its all about me."

Lastly, just an aside: I like the way you tangle with AAkasha, but I must confess that my Mistress and I are fans of hers. In terms of her posting on the CMMB, she's always a good read, but sometimes she does come across as a know-it-all and prima dona. Like you, though, she usually makes good points and backs it in some sort of coherent fashion. Anyway, when you two clash, its always good reading. Slava Bogy the Mods don't shut you down.

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/16/2006 4:18:11 AM

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Cloudboy…”you threw a rock into a hornet's nest.” Is it possible that much if not most of lookusgoshi’s, thoughts and opinions if expressed differently…would have been foundation for critical thought as opposed to reactionary comment?

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/16/2006 4:53:24 AM

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Is it possible that much if not most of lookusgoshi’s, thoughts and opinions if expressed differently…would have been foundation for critical thought as opposed to reactionary comment?

As was said before it is in the delivery.

Most use the boards for discussion in a positive way, some just like attention even if it is negative attention. Please note I said "some", when people use sweeping generalisations they tend to lose an audience. What may be right for one is not necesarily right for another just as what is abhorrent or wrong for one is not wrong for another.

I'm all for people being fulfilled but what fulfills one won't be the same as for everyone else.

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/16/2006 8:19:44 AM

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Cloudboy…”you threw a rock into a hornet's nest.” Is it possible that much if not most of lookusgoshi’s, thoughts and opinions if expressed differently…would have been foundation for critical thought as opposed to reactionary comment?

I personally have NO PROBLEM with his delivery, and as a matter of fact, I like it. I prefer it when someone does not water down their position. But, I'm kind of an odd ball. I'm just glad the moderators didn't try to cut his dick off and instead let the thread work itself out.

Also, I found his line, "As for me being fat, well DUH! I've never met a cordon bleu that I didn't like" to be particularly funny.

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/16/2006 8:29:57 AM

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I'm just glad the moderators didn't try to cut his dick off and instead let the thread work itself out.

As odd as it may seem, I'm glad for this as well.
If an audience doesn' t like a presentation, we always have the option of walking out. Which, in a sense, many of us did by using our block-user option. I don't need some higher authority to come running in to protect me from harsh words. I'm a big girl and know how to not expose myself to things I don't like.
On the flip side though, as a user, not a mod, I don't really trifle about with whether or not someone else is breaking CM's TOS. If they are, then by all means the mods would have the right to shut down the thread (or at least the user doing it).
Just in my opinion, I appreciate that the moderators have the authority to do something if things become out of control, but I think their involvement should be used as a last resort.
I don't see this particular situation as having gotten out of control because the general consensus among those feeling negativity was to use the block button.

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/16/2006 8:38:06 AM

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You know something..Proprietix is totally right..Even when its heated ..Even when its "totally your right on the mark" comments , we should have the chance to express our views in an intelligent and non distructive forum.

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/16/2006 8:52:35 AM

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I have to agree with all sides here, both Loki and the Dommes.

Most here are pisspoor at whatever they do, that isn't an insult, that is life. There is a bell curve for just about everything.

Look how hard it is to find a partner when you have half the entire pool of humanity to draw from. Now limit that down to submissive and you have shrunk that pool down considerably. Now if you are a fairly bright self aware person who has a definite idea of whom they are looking for you have shrunk that pool down to a needle in a haystack.

So you can sit around and bitch about all the hay or you can stark winnowing it out. Another thing you can do is try and turn hay into needles, they may not turn into your needles but if more did it, there would be more needles to find.

I always recommend to submissives I believe might benefit from it that they read some of the excellent non fiction books out there. In addition to The Topping Book and The Bottoming Book (despite their names, two of the best books on D/s ever written) I recommend Consensual Sadomasochism. Now for male submissives, Greenery Press has two books on male submissives, part fantasy but written by someone who put lots of nuggets in there, sort of like many kids movies that are full of double entendres and subtle adult concepts. Mistress Abernathy's Concise Slave Training Manual and other one she wrote as well. All published by the excellent http://www.greenerypress.com/

Who knows, the hay you turn into a needle may turn into your prince as well...

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/16/2006 9:15:40 AM

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Nope, cuckolding is by definition, a non-consentual act, according to the Cambridge dictionary.

Not according to my dictionary. The Oxford American Desk Dictionary and Thesaurus, (C) 2005, page 184

cuckold - noun - husband of an adultress

That's it. That's the entire definition, however, to be fair, I'll add the definition for adultry as well.

Page 13

adultry - noun - voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a person (married or not) other than his/her spouse.

Doesn't say a word in there about deception.

Anyone who is into cucking, feel free to borrow my dictionary. You now have 'permission' to cuckold with consent. ::chuckles:: That should make Lokis happy.

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/16/2006 9:29:26 AM

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AAkasha wrote:

"A web site that was *free* for ten years on the Internet and has been a pay site for 8 months. You have to do better than that. Everyone here knows I have a real life career that has nothing to do with S&m and my personal bdsm relationships have nothing to do with cash. And, you obviously aren't reading the other thread on "body worship" where I go absolutely against the grain you present, telling subs that it's NOT about the fantasy if they are seeking a real relationship.

You also fail to point out that in addition to "online trainings" my site has the most comprehensive all-original "help" section for couples and women and my "good girls guide" is highly recommended as a help guide for women.

I could be posting all kinds of smut in the newsgroups and be a champion for the unrealistic, lonely sub (like yourself) who must rely on pro femdoms for any attention at all. You don't see me doing that at all. My web site is not a pay site for profit, it's a pay site to protect my copyright and discourage minors from accessing it. If I wanted to make money from it, I would have done it in 1998 forward."

Since it's a pay site so how would I know any of this? Duh!

So do you often criticize things when you don't know what you are talking about, and having nothing to back it up?

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Also since you also have a pay by money order my dog could theoretically join. Same thing goes with prepaid debit cards. So spare me the 'protect the children' bullshit.

And it makes you a prodomme, just not a successful one evidentally.

Eric

You are oversimplifying. I was getting emails regularly from guys that should NOT have been on my site. By adding a simple "barrier to entry" I limite the majority of minors from entering my site; it isn't worth the hassle, they will click on another site rather than go through the hassle of going and buying a money order. It's like the difference between leaving your house wide open with the doors and windows unlocked vs. at least adding a simple lock on the door. It won't prevent someone from forced entry if they really are dead set on it, but it will prevent casual intruders from bothering with it.

If I really wanted to turn my site into a cash cow, I could do it. Ten years of traffic -- you can imagine what my google ranking is. I don't need the money, I make a very fine living in my career. Once again, you make accusations you can't back up, you just pull random information out of your ass -- which apparently isn't getting any action any time soon.

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/16/2006 9:41:07 AM

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Also since you also have a pay by money order my dog could theoretically join. Same thing goes with prepaid debit cards. So spare me the 'protect the children' bullshit.

And it makes you a prodomme, just not a successful one evidentally.

Eric

You are oversimplifying. I was getting emails regularly from guys that should NOT have been on my site. By adding a simple "barrier to entry" I limite the majority of minors from entering my site; it isn't worth the hassle, they will click on another site rather than go through the hassle of going and buying a money order. It's like the difference between leaving your house wide open with the doors and windows unlocked vs. at least adding a simple lock on the door. It won't prevent someone from forced entry if they really are dead set on it, but it will prevent casual intruders from bothering with it.

If I really wanted to turn my site into a cash cow, I could do it. Ten years of traffic -- you can imagine what my google ranking is. I don't need the money, I make a very fine living in my career. Once again, you make accusations you can't back up, you just pull random information out of your ass -- which apparently isn't getting any action any time soon.

Akasha

Someone makes money from their expertise in the scene, and that makes them a "prodom?" I guess my selling my books puts me in that catagory and Danny sells his leatherwork, so he's a prodom, and Lenny ran Hellfire so he's a prodom.

Take me back to ASB and "we are all Tanith"

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/16/2006 10:07:51 AM

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Please note I said "some", when people use sweeping generalisations they tend to lose an audience. What may be right for one is not necesarily right for another just as what is abhorrent or wrong for one is not wrong for another.

I'm all for people being fulfilled but what fulfills one won't be the same as for everyone else.

Oumae

i think sweeping generalizations are perfectly legit in many cases. If everyone came in here and itemized every possible contingency as in a philosophy discourse no one would hang around to read it.

That was a sweeeping generalization but for the most part true as pertaining to what i am talking about.

i think people should understand that sweeping generalizations help maintain brevity and in most cases rahter than interpreting them in their most literal sense. i think people should make a better effort to try and understand the context in which they are stated rather than itemize all the exceptions that only serve to prove the rule.

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/16/2006 10:28:41 AM

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I take issue when dommes claim men don't read their ads. We most assured do.

I take issue when men claim to read profiles, the vast majority most assuredly don't otherwise I wouldn't be getting 10 emails from men every day asking me to serve them. Sweeping generalizations to follow.

I submit the FemDoms guide to writing personal profiles.

harem/stable et al = I'm capable of making a commitment to many partners. I do not need to feed my ego with multiple partners for this is not about ego. It's about ability.

It's all about me = It's all about me because I am your primary focus. I make all decisions. You submit to those or you find yourself a bottom who doesn't mind that you are a Top in disguise.

Service oriented = do what you do because it comes from your heart, not because you're going to get your fetishes met by some fantasy which floats around in your brain seeking escape.

Female supremacy[ist] = There is a reason it's called Mother Earth. By nature comes my ability to nurture.

BBW = bbw is the confidence to see that beauty comes from within, showing up in attitude and elegant grace. I am a BBW and there is no one on Earth capable of belittling my beauty nor weakening my ego. If there are any who cannot see what is before them, their eyes remain blindfolded to reality. I pity them.

No sex = No sex and that's all it means.

Into cuckolding. = means I'm getting sex with others of my chosing. If you're not into cucking, contact someone else because it is part of My dynamic.

I'm into financial servitude/I want to be spoiled, take me shopping/I'm a prodomme = I expect you to defray the costs of toys, clothing which turns YOU on, my time etc. which are going to be used on you. How easy to say you give all your power. Money is power, so you either give it up or you don't. If you want to retain the control, you don't want a Domme, you want a service Top. Learn the difference.

Men are stupid when they think they are being scammed when they are not.

I can't speak for all FemDoms but what I want from a submissive man is someone who wants to be with me because he likes[loves] me, or at least most of me, enjoys my company and wants to be important in my life. He submits to me because he believes that he needs structure in his life, never outgrows needing corporal punishment and enjoys being with one who administers it. And we engage in a positive way that makes us feel good about ourselves, good about our relationship. I can always trust him and not feel like I'm being victimized or abused for his fetishes. To him I am not just a fleshy flogging machine.

There are other things too but this is the crux.

Hell, that was easy and I'm not even a dom. ::chuckles::

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/16/2006 10:29:10 AM

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Thank you Oumae, for sharing your thinking.
Clearly, a dialogue limited to stereotypical monolithic thinking irrespective of the collective vehemence it’s immersed in… offers nothing more then a ritualistic repeating of the same old mundane prattle. Offers nothing of a positive nature, in fact, it restricts and reduces the ever-widening stream of D/s practitioners causal of a highly diverse informed intelligent broadening acceptance within the so-called vanilla community.
The message we send should be one of tolerance and acceptance of diverseness not one of imposed collective ignorant adherence to the thinking of there being only one true way of expressing the varying different degrees of dominance and submission making us up.

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