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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/16/2006 10:46:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ProperMaleMaid

Thank you Oumae, for sharing your thinking.
Clearly, a dialogue limited to stereotypical monolithic thinking irrespective of the collective vehemence it’s immersed in… offers nothing more then a ritualistic repeating of the same old mundane prattle. Offers nothing of a positive nature, in fact, it restricts and reduces the ever-widening stream of D/s practitioners causal of a highly diverse informed intelligent broadening acceptance within the so-called vanilla community.
The message we send should be one of tolerance and acceptance of diverseness not one of imposed collective ignorant adherence to the thinking of there being only one true way of expressing the varying different degrees of dominance and submission making us up.   


now turn your head in the other direction and open thine eyes


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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/16/2006 10:50:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

I submit the FemDoms guide to writing personal profiles...

Hell, that was easy and I'm not even a dom. ::chuckles::




Guys, Celeste has just given you another example of Female Supremacy.


**Edited because the *other* example of Female Supremacy got the quote box wrong. lol
On the other hand, referencing another thread, superior does not mean perfect. :)



< Message edited by Misstoyou -- 4/16/2006 10:53:24 AM >


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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/16/2006 10:59:21 AM   
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Bita - excellent!  *clap, clap, clap*

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/16/2006 11:04:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne



i think sweeping generalizations are perfectly legit in many cases. If everyone came in here and itemized every possible contingency as in a philosophy discourse no one would hang around to read it.


You remind me of this old post by REALIST:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_104037/mpage_10/key_statement/tm.htm#108216

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/16/2006 11:52:39 AM   
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Ofcourse it is difficult to find sub/slave.  As in finding any relationships that work. (Vanilla ect...)  And most subs only think they want this.  Reality VS Fantasy... 

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/16/2006 1:21:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lokisgodhi
Think before you post. Duh.

That's the smartest thing you've said.  Too bad you can't take your own advice.

Is there a single soul on Collarme that actually thinks you have anything intelligent to say?  Other than yourself of course. You are certainly long-winded, I'll give you that.

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/16/2006 1:30:17 PM   
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         I've been following this thread with some interest (along with the 'Body Worship') and just can't keep my two cents worth to myself anymore.

        Reading profiles and posts it strikes me that what a lot of Dominant Women want to establish is exactly what I walked out of in a previous "vanilla" relationship ie, "do everything my way and never get what you want."

       I'm actually very grateful that the first "lifestyle goddess" I met in r/t turned out to be a wholly incompetent person just looking for a guy to take care of her mistakes without ever suggesting she might be in the wrong. 

      I started re-evaluating what I was looking for, found her and married her. 

        The funny thing is, if my ex had been willing to throw a wild, kinky screwfest in the bedroom every so often, I'd still be catering to her needs and paying her bills while she did crafts at her desk. 

        If you can't find what you want, maybe adjust the price you are willing to pay.

      

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/16/2006 1:41:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WyrdRich

        I've been following this thread with some interest (along with the 'Body Worship') and just can't keep my two cents worth to myself anymore.

       Reading profiles and posts it strikes me that what a lot of Dominant Women want to establish is exactly what I walked out of in a previous "vanilla" relationship ie, "do everything my way and never get what you want."

      I'm actually very grateful that the first "lifestyle goddess" I met in r/t turned out to be a wholly incompetent person just looking for a guy to take care of her mistakes without ever suggesting she might be in the wrong. 

     I started re-evaluating what I was looking for, found her and married her. 

       The funny thing is, if my ex had been willing to throw a wild, kinky screwfest in the bedroom every so often, I'd still be catering to her needs and paying her bills while she did crafts at her desk. 

       If you can't find what you want, maybe adjust the price you are willing to pay.

     


It seems to me that sub men should be able to identify whether a woman doesn't have her act together within the courting period.  Is she in mega debt? Can she hold a job?  Do her friends and family respect her?  Is she reliable?  Does she own up to her mistakes? If not -- move on.  It's as simple as that.

The problem is that some subs are willing to compromise when it comes to kink.  They will overlook all kinds of issues they would have never tolerated in a vanilla mate. She can treat him like crap -- but as long as she dishes out some kink here and there, he is willing to overlook the rest.  This is ok for a fling, but a disaster for a long term relationship.

Once again, there is no victim here.  A man should stand up for what he wants and deserves and if he doesn't like it, leave.

For what it's worth, the lifestyle femdoms I have known tend to be highly creative, self motivated, many own their own businesses or successful writers or artists.  It's the scam artists and "get rich quick" schemers that subs have to avoid -- those that have learned that masquerading as something called a "femdom" is a one-way ticket to a life of luxury. Most of those ladies get a rude wake up call, too.

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/16/2006 2:33:21 PM   
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AAkasha,

I can only say "ditto" to everything you have stated. I read part of loki's remarks about your site and your remarks about having had the site available for free for so long was the first thing I thought of. In addition, your FREE writings about domination for good girls is one of the first things I read remains one of the best things I've ever read. While I will never proclaim to know everything about this lifestyle and who is who, this person's writings make it clear he does not know his history.

While I can understand the base of where his frustrations lie, it would seem that if he is so dissatisfied, then taking a break from the lifestyle may be in order. In addition, I found very quickly that the search for your bdsm counterpart is best when you stick to getting active in your local bdsm community and treat an online search as a supplement to what you are looking for.

quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha

quote:

ORIGINAL: lokisgodhi

AAkasha wrote:

"You represent a sad, lonely old man who has given up and is so bitter that no non-pro would touch you with a ten-foot pole, and that adds to your bitterness.  If I were single, you would represent everything I would stay away from in a potential partner -- you seem to champion the notion that you are damaged goods.  What in your personality has attracted such venomous women, and why is it *our* fault? 

Your words make a woman envision a deeply disturbed an angry man. Your kisses must be filled with bile and your passionate sweat reaks of vinegar.  What hope do you have of attracting compassion and love when you sit here and spew such negativity?  No wonder you are single, and destined to remain that way a long, long time."

Ahh the obligatory ad hominem personal attack.

But then what would you expect from a person with a pay website who makes money from on-line training and selling BDSM fantasy stories. Someone with a vested financial interest in maintaining the status quo. Gee, who'd have thunk it? I mean what are the odds that someone with a financial interest would attack someone who objects to the status quo and reality common sense based view that runs counter to the conventional wisdom. After all critical thinking could be bad for business.

After all $M is profitable...for women. Can't let anyone get in the way of that.






A web site that was *free* for ten years on the Internet and has been a pay site for 8 months.  You have to do better than that.  Everyone here knows I have a real life career that has nothing to do with S&m and my personal bdsm relationships have nothing to do with cash.  And, you obviously aren't reading the other thread on "body worship" where I go absolutely against the grain you present, telling subs that it's NOT about the fantasy if they are seeking a real relationship.

You also fail to point out that in addition to "online trainings" my site has the most comprehensive all-original "help" section for couples and women and my "good girls guide" is highly recommended as a help guide for women.

I could be posting all kinds of smut in the newsgroups and be a champion for the unrealistic, lonely sub (like yourself) who must rely on pro femdoms for any attention at all.  You don't see me doing that at all. My web site is not a pay site for profit, it's a pay site to protect my copyright and discourage minors from accessing it. If I wanted to make money from it, I would have done it in 1998 forward.

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/16/2006 2:34:34 PM   
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WOW!!! I did not read this forum for a days and it explodes into a whole world of fun! Myself, being very new to the forums here on CM, I just have loved spending the last hour or so reading thru and catching up. Gaining alot of respect for many too numerous to list...though for one post that I wish I had typed because it made me chuckle in glee I must say...Scooter you rock!! I feel that MOST that have participated in this forum have shown such insight and self restraint in dealing with one person who must quite simply be one VERY miserable individual! poor poor loki.......

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/16/2006 2:41:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
It seems to me that sub men should be able to identify whether a woman doesn't have her act together within the courting period.  Is she in mega debt? Can she hold a job?  Do her friends and family respect her?  Is she reliable?  Does she own up to her mistakes? If not -- move on.  It's as simple as that.


On the surface your advice seems sound, but when you look at it closely, there seems to be some clarification necessary.  What is mega debt?  $1000?  $5000? $25000?  If someone purchases a quarter million dollar home, the first half of the loan period they are going to owe about a quarter of a million dollars...is that mega debt if they can make the payments?
 
Holding a job may not be an indicator of a good Domme.  She could work reliably at WalMart for 10 years be still be a cashier.  However, I held 5 different jobs in one 5 year period, but jumped from company to company to improve my career and my salary doubled in that time frame.  Would that be considered 'not holding a job'?

Surely you are not insinuating that friends and family's respect are necessary to be a good Domme?  What if her whole family is from the deep South, Bible thumping Baptists who believe that BDSM is a gift from Satan?  Would their disapproval be grounds to dismiss her? 
 
I will give you the 'reliable' and 'admitting her mistakes'.  I like to think that instead of casting blame elsewhere the Dommes who can admit to mistakes earn respect. :)
 
quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha
Once again, there is no victim here.  A man should stand up for what he wants and deserves and if he doesn't like it, leave.


"Just leaving" isn't so easy for those who have invested time and effort into a relationship - especially if they are getting wild kinky sex every once in a while from the significant other.  Many people think that with a little more effort they can change the situation, and leaving the relationship is way down the list of options (plus, it is not the easiest option and most people take the path of least resistance).  It would be better for everyone to evaluate and write down once a year personal truths about themselves (some might call this a moral code).  They would then better know if someone's treatment fits into their code and after a certain amount of inconsideration or after a certain event they would be able to tell themselves a line had been crossed , and now know it was time to move on.
 
A lot of your advice is dispensed in a one-size-fits-all fashion and you really should reconsider some of what you are telling less experienced folk who don't have the wherewithall to understand that what you say does seem to fit the general, overall picture -  but may be way off the mark in a particular situation.   
 
                                     - in my humble opinion, of course.
                                       Be well,
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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/16/2006 3:00:19 PM   
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Invictus,

You make the mistake all to many make.  AAkasha was making a generalization and you want to get into a snit because you believe you are outside it.

Flip what you are saying, would being in massive debt, having a family that hates you, not holding a job be GOOD signs?

She was saying those were red flags, not deal killers, just like oozing sores on my cock might be a sign of VD or they could be just an allergic reaction but some might want to slow down and find out.

Oh, and next time a post hits too close to home, you might just look inward rather than attack the person who shined light on a sore spot.

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/17/2006 2:51:13 AM   
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I think that the search is long, there are many applicants, but most are selfish and boring. I think that it is like a sparrow looking for a grain in a pile of horse manure - the sparrow needs to deal with a lot of manure to get to the grain :)

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/17/2006 4:06:24 AM   
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MistressDior, have you ever heard a sparrow complain? Somehow it always finds what it seeks most.

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/17/2006 4:21:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ProperMaleMaid

MistressDior, have you ever heard a sparrow complain? Somehow it always finds what it seeks most.


Sparrows complain all the time. They just post on different message boards than this one.

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/17/2006 6:32:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: littlesarbonn

quote:

ORIGINAL: ProperMaleMaid

MistressDior, have you ever heard a sparrow complain? Somehow it always finds what it seeks most.


Sparrows complain all the time. They just post on different message boards than this one.




Very well put sarbonn.

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/17/2006 8:19:32 AM   
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The next time I am attend Datona or the JackPine, I will certainly seek out a talking sparrow and/or those viewing the plagued little voices in their heads as sparrows.

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/17/2006 9:31:49 AM   
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AAkasha wrote:

"A web site that was *free* for ten years on the Internet and has been a pay site for 8 months. You have to do better than that."

No I dont. There are no points awarded for a site that was free for ten years and now is pay. If I can't read in now when you're referring the fact that may have been free for the ten years are irrelevant.


"Everyone here knows I have a real life career that has nothing to do with S&m and my personal bdsm relationships have nothing to do with cash. "

No they dont.

"And, you obviously aren't reading the other thread on "body worship" where I go absolutely against the grain you present, telling subs that it's NOT about the fantasy if they are seeking a real relationship."

"You also fail to point out that in addition to "online trainings" my site has the most comprehensive all-original "help" section for couples and women and my "good girls guide" is highly recommended as a help guide for women. "

Sounds like on-line training to me. Especially since it's on-line and alledgedly offering a person information that don't have.

"I could be posting all kinds of smut in the newsgroups and be a champion for the unrealistic, lonely sub (like yourself) who must rely on pro femdoms for any attention at all."

I've never paid a femdomme for any interaction with them.


"You don't see me doing that at all. My web site is not a pay site for profit,"

So you're not a competent businessperson, so what's your point?


"it's a pay site to protect my copyright and discourage minors from accessing it."

As I said before being a pay site does neither.


"If I wanted to make money from it, I would have done it in 1998 forward."

If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.









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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/17/2006 12:16:05 PM   
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Trash wrote:

"I can't for the life of me figure out what you thought you would accomplish by coming into this thread touting your pathetic outlook of Dommes and throwing your obviously insulting comments around."

Try looking up the definition of consciousness raising and honesty.

"On top of that...you have the audacity to attempt to beleaguer those who reply to your fictitious "guide to reading Domme's ads", with nothing more than additional self righteous hogwash."

Here in America we call it the constitutional right to free expression.

"Lastly, you personally seem to have a problem with me and that's fine, but it probably wasn't in your best interest to accuse me of anything."

Well I found out you have a stick up your ass and no sense of humor. Must be sad in your grey colorless world.

"Oh I comprehend fine and I know where you were going with that statement."

I was going to 'you don't have a firm grasp of reality.'

" Since it's apparent YOU can at least comprehend cartoons (& by the way I haven't seen Roadrunner for a decade or two), let's put it in terms you can understand. I'm not a big fan of overweight anyone, but that doesn't automatically dimenish [spelled incorrectly] their capability to control a submissive as you suggest. You're assumption that they lack some sort of self control may be true, but it really isn't your place to decide that unless they have specifically said something to lead you to that conclusion, something other than what you simply perceive, now is it?"

Say what? I get to decide the criteria with which I use to decide to recognize whom is a dominant or not.

"They might like being like they are..I don't profess to understand that, but then again, you're assuming something simply by what you see as a result. Fair enough, I'll afford the same courtesy to you Porky. It appears you openly admit you have no self control when it comes to your eating habits, so using your own logic I would have to assume you wouldn't make much of a partner for anyone since you are obviously irresponsible."

I see you'd like to start using epithets regarding appearence [spelled incorrectly]. I guarantee I'll be better at it than you. Remember you started it.

"""These guys know they are righteous (even if they are hipocritical b****es) and by God they're going to be heard, and they're going to bore the dommes into submission with their bitching and victim mentality."''''

''I'm not a victim. Victims take it without a word. I'm launching a counter offense. I won't accept the bullshit that I see dommes spew. When confronted with it I'm going to [figuratively] kick them so hard in the ass they're going to taste shoe leather. If that doesn't work I'll try literally. ''

"To the first part...It sounds like you are blatently [spelled incorrectly] accusing me of being condescending in my remarks and have some ulterior motive...it even hints that my motive is to lure some unsuspecting Domme into submission."

What first part? The quote you've attributed to me wasn't written by me. It was written by BlkTallFullfig.

"Now who can't comprehend? I am married to a Domme and yes I have motives, the motive is to verbally knock some sense into male subs (or whatever you claim to be) who insult my counterparts."

I didn't insult anyone. I offered an opinion was was personally attacked for expressing. And I defended myself. Are you so fucking stupid to think that wouldn't after being attacked?

I don't care who you're married to.


"I have plenty of friends who are Dominas"

As do I.

"and they are not as nieve as you imply, gaining that friendship is not done with bullshit, it is done by being open, honest and not being judgemental [spelled incorrectly], something I doubt you can comprehend."

I *THOUGHT* you said you were correcting spelling? It's naive or were you under the impression I was implying they were snow in Spanish?

"As for kicking them in the ass, which sounds awfully close to a threat and against TOS...oh so very macho of you, aren't you just the example the male subs were needing to emulate?"

As far as I know the place that I live doesn't have a terms of service. Something else you might have not considered:

sardonic
Main Entry: sar·don·ic
Pronunciation: sär-'dä-nik
Function: adjective
Etymology: French sardonique, from Greek sardonios
: disdainfully or skeptically humorous : derisively mocking <a sardonic comment> <his sardonic expression>
synonym see SARCASTIC
I must reiterate, it must be sad in your grey colorless humorless world.


"First off, "he said, she said" is a piss poor way to draw conclusions and honestly, I think you are just making this part up anyway."

It's generally called interviewing and is used in many different fields to gain information.


"In all likelyhood [spelled incorrectly] I know a lot more poly folks than you do and it's peculiar that this issue never comes up."
Maybe they don't trust you enough not to reveal their secret pain about what they're feeling to their partner. You don't look or sound very trust worthy to me. I don't make personal attacks based on a person's personal appearance because I don't like their opinions, like you.

" In the first place, if you are jealous you are likely not in a poly dynamic anyway."

Maybe in a perfect world. here in the REAL world people sometimes get into something they think they can handle and then find they can't get out.

"I suggest that if you don't have any real life experiences to draw from on this subject, maybe a bit of study on the subject before voicing you opinion might be in order. As for principles, you need to read some of your own posts, I suspect you don't have any."

Then you need to re-read them. As for principles, I haven't made a personal attack on anyone on this thread who hasn't attacked me first.

"For someone who likes to defend themself [incorrect word usage], openly saying you called Dommes assholes isn't going to get you out of much hot water here."

And I should care why?

"As for comparing the two sexes and their techniques, again I have to use some of your twisted logic and conclude that since you are not a Dominant, you are not qualified to judge and any information you are getting is heresay."

I'm a well known member of my community and have been for well over two decades. I've been elected or appointed in leadership roles in local organizations. I assume it's because people know me and like me and/or agree with my opinions. Some schmuck from west bumfuck like you has no idea of what I'm qualified to judge or not.

"As for the reference to violence, again, not in your best interest."

Violence exists. Read the papers or watch TV. It happens every day. What's the color of the sky in your world, moonbeam?

"A lot, even though that isn't necessarily the only path to success, it is the most likely. Of course I am certain that you know plenty, or maybe heard about plenty of "lazy, noncreative, imbeciles that are great successes. "

Only if their relatives were.

"Insulting my slave"

Since when is asking a person a question an insult? Just because she's foolish enough to set you up as an authority figure doesn't me I have to. History is full of Jim Jones, L. Ron Hubbards and David Koreshes that people have foolishly set up as such. I reserve the right not to drink your kool-aide.

"will get you nothing but a seriously derogatory reply from me, which you are getting."

No, I'm getting a seriously derogatory reply because you're just another self aggrandizing dominant asshole who thinks everyone should accede to their opinion as is annoyed because someone didn't.

" She can think quite fine on her own and is much better at communicating her views than you are."
Facts not in evidence.

"OK, finally you speak about something from experience,"

Nope, I never bite my tongue. Duh, that should be pretty obvious by now.

" I would bet you may even be a specialist at this skill. I am still amazed how you think insulting female Dominants is going to gain you anything but a lot of "block" buttons. By the way, better be careful, eating the entire deli may make your hair fall out."

Nah.

"Hmmm...you are listed as a Male Submissive, but you claim you are not and had to use the choices offered since they don't have a category for whatever it is that you are. It also appears you are searching for a Dominant woman. Not to worry, the accuracy is likely irrelevent [spelled incorrectly] in your case as you've likely burned any bridges here anyway. I am sure this is going to come as a big surprise, but the a large populus [spelled incorrectly] of the Female Dominants on CollarMe, post to and read these threads."
No, not really. A very small portion post to these threads.

"Lastly, and this is really a personal pet peave...."

What's is a peave?

Did you mean peeve? For someone who claims they're going to correct spelling you sure make enough of your own. Maybe you should put your effort in that direction.

"if you are going to quote folks, at least act like you have some intelligence and learn how to utilize the quote features so we don't have to spend so much time trying to figure out what is someone else's [spelled incorrectly] clipped words and your dribble."

The correct term is drivel. Duh!

"Don't do it for me however, as I am blocking you as well because I have much better things to do that read the opinions of someone who's credentials don't match their behaviour."

Nah, my vote is that it's because you're a nancy boy whose got his panties in a bunch because some had the temerity to challenge them.

"edited; just because he can't spell, I'm not leaving errors on mine."

Oops, if you're the captain of this ship you've scuttled it.

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RE: Mistresses giving up the search??? - 4/17/2006 1:22:36 PM   
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Lorelei wrote:

"In reading your posts for comprehension, I have concluded that you are narcissistic and perhaps it is easier to find fault with everyone else (who doesn't want you) than to admit that you are the one with many flaws and others have legitimate reasons to find you undesirable."

I own my flaws. I freely admit that I have them. I reserve the right to complain about others flaws. As for people not wanting me I can go out every Friday and Saturday to a S/M club and play if I so choose. I don't because I find playing for the sake of playing is unfulfilling, a waste of time and not conductive to getting to where I want to be.



"you have a huge list of what your future Domme should be; you have even given instructions prior to meeting her as to how she should punish you.... and you are complaining about the Dominant Females around here?"

I want a specific type of relationship. I'm not interested in anything else. I think master-slave relationships are utter and complete bullshit. If someone writes me and starts with 'Slave' I will get extremely pissed and will eviscerate them with my response. I'd prefer to not have to do that so I'd rather be specific about the ground rules beforehand. Duh!



"Topping from the bottom works well with Pro Dommes (sometimes), so maybe they will be of use to you after-all."

I don't top from the bottom because there are no tops nor bottoms in a DD relationship.

If you have to pay someone it's not domestic discipline. In order to be domestic discipline there has to be a relationship. Duh! Are you really this stupid!



"you have apparently never been involved in a cuckold relationship, so how would you know if those involved in them lack morals."

Because people who make commitments are then violate them are considered to lack morals.



"If a male desires to be a cuckold (and many do), and his Lady cuckolds him, then this is a consensual relationship."

If someone desires to allow his spouse to interact with others than he's not being cuckolded. He's in a negotiated non-conventional relationship. Cuckolding is defined as non-consensual. Words have definitions for a reason. That's why we have dictionaries.So idiots like you don't get make them up yourself. Duh!



"What takes place in the relationship does so because of this consent. So morals are a factor how? "

Again, cuckolding is defined as non-consensual. Therefore it's impossible to have consented to it. Cheating on your partner is immoral. Therefore anyone who does so is immoral.



"Regarding the term BBW, if a woman thinks she is beautiful, she should refer to herself as such, without having to justify a thing."

So by your logic If I think I'm svelte and in shape then I am? If a catholic priest thinks it's okay for him to sodomize eight year olds it's acceptable to do so? Put down the crack pipe honey!



"Bdsm is not an escapists subculture. For those who are sincere, it's just part of who they are. If anyone anywhere wants to reinvent themselves, ANY chatroom or online forum will allow them to do just that., Bdsm or no Bdsm."

And how many people do you know who legally hold slaves in real life? I love it when I get people so mad that they start saying stupid fallacies just to disagree with me. Oh the power of being a lokisgodhi!



"Perhaps consider surrounding yourself with friends who do not attract the ex-con/junkie types. "

I saved his life so now I'm responsible for him. Real men don't cut and run from their friends when they become inconvenient. Noblesse oblige. You wouldn't understand, not that suprises me.

"Your educational background, which apparently allowed you to overuse "Duh" (which according to your trusty Cambridge Dictionary is not a word, so you must never have said it) only proves that you can be educated and still lack knowledge."

First rule of writing is to write for your audiences' ability to understand. ;-)


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