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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
i read the site and its entertaining at best.

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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig
"I want to be your slave, but you must beat me every day, treat me worse than an animal, and cuckold me."  

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig
"I want to be your slave, but you must beat me every day, treat me worse than an animal, and cuckold me."

the site is eqaully unrealistic to the dom side and reserves the right to be nice so to speak.

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loosely speaking, of course no one has the "right" to do anything to another in a free society. priviledge maybe.

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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig
"I want to be your slave, but you must beat me every day, treat me worse than an animal, and cuckold me."

the site is eqaully unrealistic to the dom side and reserves the right to be nice so to speak.

It's not unrealistic at all in that regard.  As the dominant in ownereship of a property, I get to treat him as I please...  Even if it is to do fun things and make him happy most of the time.  For me the site is useful for a very clear explanation of what a slave's life could be like.

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loosely speaking, of course no one has the "right" to do anything to another in a free society. priviledge maybe.

In reality none of us have to put up with the other ever...  So it is always about a symbiotic consensual relationship.  He willingly decides to obey moi.  M

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ORIGINAL: newdombbw

I am within 2 seconds of giving up my search.  Yes - I feel the emptiness you mention - in fact, feeling very used by "cyber-wankers".

I'm not going to find one to love me the way I want to love in return - so will just go work a 60 hour week instead.......

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
ok i will buy your picture if you can walk into a court room and tell the judge any human is your property and have them accept it under the laws of this republic

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Now he may willlingly deside to obey, ie: offer you the "priviledge" of his service but he is not and cannot be your property in the free world including many 3rd world countries as well

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If he so much as whispers the words i do not want this any longer no mountain of paperwork and bs can hold him even with a court appointed attorney much less someone good

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i will agree with concentual on both ends and i will agree that you both have the priviledge of being with one another in your perspective roles but beyond that is fantasy land and that site is about 98% fantasy land imvho

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"You don't see me doing that at all. My web site is not a pay site for profit,"

So you're not a competent businessperson, so what's your point?


"it's a pay site to protect my copyright and discourage minors from accessing it."

As I said before being a pay site does neither.


"If I wanted to make money from it, I would have done it in 1998 forward."

If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

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ORIGINAL: LoneGoddess

Yikes!!!!!!!!!!!  What a nightmare. Ladies, I am just wondering why we didn't hand it back to the whiner.

Dommes Guide to Surfing for Submissive Males:
 
If his profile says, "I need...(add any kink activity)" or "I like...(add any kink activity)" or "I want... (add any kink activity)"
It's a good bet he's a wanker.
If his profile says, "service sub", he's expecting it to be mainly "sexual service". They never really define it do they?
If his profile says, "discreet or discretion", he's married or otherwise emotionally unavailable.
If his profile says, "looking for experiences, or looking to experiment" or anything like it, he's a player.
 
And the number one skip his profile factor for me?  His handle. If it's anything that describes his favorite kink activity it's a guarantee that activity will be the first thing he wants to talk about with you. Please keep in mind that all of the above issues with profiles are mine, they may not be yours. I don't know who or what you seek. And I won't begin to guess at it.
 
But then again, we know how to sift through these ones already. Don't we?
 
This topic has been ground down into pulp on this forum as well as others, the main conclusion?
 
If the males in question could be less motivated by the hard-on they have while looking for a Domme and more motivated by the brains in their heads, and maybe throw in a dose of heart too, we wouldn't consider giving up on them for the greener vanilla pastures, where the expectations aren't in the way of making real connections with another person.
 
And gentlemen, pay attention, this is important. The truth is that it really is far simpler to take a vanilla man and bend him to our kinky ways, than it is to have to sift through the wankers on these sites.
 
~LG

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ORIGINAL: FLsubmalecd

I think You did a great job of listing all the things to look out for in Your search for a sub. I as a sub male agree with You and many other loving sincere Dommes that it is hard to weed through the wood pile of wankers, players and married males looking for a fling on the side. It sure does not speak highly of the gender i am one of.
 It infact makes me wish i could somehow disassociate myself from them so the fine Ladies that  want what i am searching for too could find each other. I won' t lie and say i don't want or need certain things from  Domme. Let's face it, we all want and need something from this lifestyle or we would not be a part of it. But the difference is, that someof us are very sincere and very real about understanding who we are and what the other expects from it. I surely understand and agree, it is not about me and my wants and kinky desires. it is all about what the Lady iseek to serve wants, needs, desires, and demands. To be perfectly honest, it is all that she wants and expects that turn me on, makes me happy, and why i chose this lifestyle to begin with.. My own needs and wants come second to hers. 
 I also know that if i give her 100% of myself, i will get back without asking, what it is i need and want.
So to sum it up. Here is what I want and need: I want a Lady to dominate me 24/7 and expect me to serve her without question. I expect her to make me into the perfect sub/slave for her. Iexpect her to punish me for my failures and reward me with her love and shared playfulkinks should i deserve it by being allshe wants and expects. No, it is not a game. But allthis starts with mutual respect and love. Without it, i could not give her what she needs and wants. It comes down to love. That's what some of you want. That is also what iam lookng for. The rest is dependant on how well we match up in our beliefs and lifestyle choices.  Maybe with a little give and take thrown in to make us a better match.
I hope ii expressed this in a way that makes sense and does not in anyway make me look like the kind of player that you described in Your post Ma'am. 
Good luck in Your search.        

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ORIGINAL: Kirei

Personally I think your wrong about listing of needs.  Some people have actually done a good job listing their needs.  I for one have spent a great deal of time looking at myself and trying to figure out my needs from my wants.  It was not easy nor was it fun, but it did give me a better look into myself.
While I see many female dominants that tell me its all about them.  That in and of itself is just a lot of BS and tells me she is a fake.  Why do I say that?  Because a true power exchange relationship between and dominant and submissive must be circular.  Each must desire to meet the needs of the other, each must at times see to the others wants.  It is very much a yin/yan circle. 
The problem is no one is willing to talk on a basic level on-line anymore.  I gave up my search for a mistress, because I see it as if I was looking for the holy grail itself.  Its just not possible find, unless your lucky to come across that someone.

  How many people have asked themselves "What is the minimum I truly need to be happy"?  How many have written it down for themselves?
   In any relationship 90% of that relationship is what you will bring to it.  The 10% is the magic that keeps it going.

Koneko

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ORIGINAL: Kirei
While I see many female dominants that tell me its all about them.  That in and of itself is just a lot of BS and tells me she is a fake.  Why do I say that?  Because a true power exchange relationship between and dominant and submissive must be circular.  Each must desire to meet the needs of the other, each must at times see to the others wants.  It is very much a yin/yan circle. 

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ORIGINAL: Proprietrix

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ORIGINAL: Kirei
While I see many female dominants that tell me its all about them.  That in and of itself is just a lot of BS and tells me she is a fake.  Why do I say that?  Because a true power exchange relationship between and dominant and submissive must be circular.  Each must desire to meet the needs of the other, each must at times see to the others wants.  It is very much a yin/yan circle. 

To me, this is an oxymoron.
The whole point of D/s - M/s power exchange is that is not a balanced relationship. It is not equal. It is not about needs and wants being met laterally. It is not about finding that happy medium. Those are great concepts for egalitarian relationships, but really has no bearing on relationships that define themselves as asymmetrical in the first place.
What you describe, I would define as either a vanilla relationship (with or without kinky play), or at most, a relationship between two Switches. But definitely not a M/s relationship.

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ORIGINAL: Proprietrix

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ORIGINAL: Kirei
While I see many female dominants that tell me its all about them.  That in and of itself is just a lot of BS and tells me she is a fake.  Why do I say that?  Because a true power exchange relationship between and dominant and submissive must be circular.  Each must desire to meet the needs of the other, each must at times see to the others wants.  It is very much a yin/yan circle. 

To me, this is an oxymoron.
The whole point of D/s - M/s power exchange is that is not a balanced relationship. It is not equal. It is not about needs and wants being met laterally. It is not about finding that happy medium. Those are great concepts for egalitarian relationships, but really has no bearing on relationships that define themselves as asymmetrical in the first place.
What you describe, I would define as either a vanilla relationship (with or without kinky play), or at most, a relationship between two Switches. But definitely not a M/s relationship.

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ORIGINAL: LoneGoddess

I'd like to keep the illusion that it's all about me, but the truth is, it isn't. Put the shoe on the other foot, pretend for a moment you're the sub. How would you want it? Unequal always?

LG~

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold

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ORIGINAL: LoneGoddess

I'd like to keep the illusion that it's all about me, but the truth is, it isn't. Put the shoe on the other foot, pretend for a moment you're the sub. How would you want it? Unequal always?

LG~

And this is where we part ways.  I admit I cannot put Myself in the submissive's shoes, because I have no desire to be submissive.  It doesn't mean I can't be nurturing and caring.  I does mean that I have no desire and derive no satisfaction from bending to another's will.  I strongly feel that the submissive or slave is getting his needs met if both are careful about choosing the right person.  It should be the submissive's or slave's nature to derive their fulfillment this way. 
The basis of any D/s or M/s relationship does begin with what the Dominant seeks.  In that sense, it is all about the Dominant.  It is up to both to ensure that all needs are being met, from both sides.  If the slave can't give Me what I need in My relationship, then we are not  a match.  And what I need should be what the slave happily gives.  In return, My Dominant energy is what feeds the s type.  If its' not the right energy flow on both sides, move on...No harm, no foul.  
But if I want to compromise My expectations just for the sake of being in a relationship, then I might as well marry that rich vanilla guy who has been after Me for two years.

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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren

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ORIGINAL: Proprietrix

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ORIGINAL: Kirei
While I see many female dominants that tell me its all about them.  That in and of itself is just a lot of BS and tells me she is a fake.  Why do I say that?  Because a true power exchange relationship between and dominant and submissive must be circular.  Each must desire to meet the needs of the other, each must at times see to the others wants.  It is very much a yin/yan circle. 

To me, this is an oxymoron.
The whole point of D/s - M/s power exchange is that is not a balanced relationship. It is not equal. It is not about needs and wants being met laterally. It is not about finding that happy medium. Those are great concepts for egalitarian relationships, but really has no bearing on relationships that define themselves as asymmetrical in the first place.
What you describe, I would define as either a vanilla relationship (with or without kinky play), or at most, a relationship between two Switches. But definitely not a M/s relationship.

There is a word for dominants who don't to some degree, at least, meet the needs of the submissive: alone.