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ORIGINAL: FetishRose

I consider myself a relatively bratty sub.  For my Sir and I...that means I am playful, and give him, within the bonds of play, an excuse to "punish" me.  While I know many find the concept of play punishment to be silly or idiotic, we enjoy it.
For example, I may disregard an order, when I sense he is in the mood for me to do so.  I will go wide-eyed, and shake my head, and maybe giggle.  This always leads to rough and tumble fun time.
It's about knowing when it is and when it is not acceptable.  If I act bratty, and he calls me on it and tells me he is not in the mood, I change, and do what he asked.  I could not be with a dominant that I could not have this sense of playfulness around.  I enjoy being physically overtaken, and he enjoys physically forcing my submission at times.  It's just our way.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

as do you, though i dont like taking a debate to cmail simply because someone does not like how its turning out.

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ORIGINAL: FetishRose

I consider myself a relatively bratty sub.  For my Sir and I...that means I am playful, and give him, within the bonds of play, an excuse to "punish" me.  While I know many find the concept of play punishment to be silly or idiotic, we enjoy it.
For example, I may disregard an order, when I sense he is in the mood for me to do so.  I will go wide-eyed, and shake my head, and maybe giggle.  This always leads to rough and tumble fun time.
It's about knowing when it is and when it is not acceptable.  If I act bratty, and he calls me on it and tells me he is not in the mood, I change, and do what he asked.  I could not be with a dominant that I could not have this sense of playfulness around.  I enjoy being physically overtaken, and he enjoys physically forcing my submission at times.  It's just our way.

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ORIGINAL: RealSub58

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

as do you, though i dont like taking a debate to cmail simply because someone does not like how its turning out.

as I wrote in cmail ~~
"I am going to respond to you here because derailing a forum is not in good taste:"

I stand by my statements in my 2nd post.

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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and maybe a smart ass/ brat or sarcastic submissive finds and even thicker headed smart ass sarcastic dom/me.

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I guess I lumped bad smart ass/brat with the good kind.

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ORIGINAL: Level

Being playful is fine, but being a brat is disrespectful. It all depends on how folks define the two.

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ORIGINAL: DaddysInkedSlut
Leadership so does that mean you shun me? (i'm just kinda curious)

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ORIGINAL: TheLadyIsADomme

I like sarcasm. I think it shows a quick wit and and engaging mind. Now, brattiness, not so much, unless it is in the context of playfulness. Otherwise it is just immature self-centric behavior.

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ORIGINAL: leadership527

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ORIGINAL: DaddysInkedSlut
Leadership so does that mean you shun me? (i'm just kinda curious)

No. Whatever it is that you have expressed where I can see it (namely, here on collarme), it has not been something that would meet my definitions of "bratty and sarcastic". How you describe yourself is up to you and what you may do in venues I cannot see is... well.. invisible to me. But I don't associate the words "bratty" and "sarcastic" with what I've read of you.

I am well aware that some people imbue different meanings in those words than I do. If you see "bratty" more along the lines of what I'd call "playful" then it's just a semantics gap and has nothing to do with you or me.

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what i want to know is whats the difference between having a spirited personality and opinions of youre own and brattyness. someone mentioned 'doormat' but ive never met a doormat ever - i think the thought that you cant be submissive and express youreself is silly, but there are ways of expressing youreself that are either respectful or rude, which is oversimplifying it i know, but basically thats the bottom line.

what lally said, but now I have more questions creeping in   

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ORIGINAL: DaddysInkedSlut

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ORIGINAL: leadership527

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ORIGINAL: DaddysInkedSlut
Leadership so does that mean you shun me? (i'm just kinda curious)

No. Whatever it is that you have expressed where I can see it (namely, here on collarme), it has not been something that would meet my definitions of "bratty and sarcastic". How you describe yourself is up to you and what you may do in venues I cannot see is... well.. invisible to me. But I don't associate the words "bratty" and "sarcastic" with what I've read of you.

I am well aware that some people imbue different meanings in those words than I do. If you see "bratty" more along the lines of what I'd call "playful" then it's just a semantics gap and has nothing to do with you or me.

THAT is my point. Sarcasism, brattiness, playfulness, ect are based on personalal perceptions and judgements. So what is bratty to you or sarcastic to you or even the OP isn't to others. And I when I speak of me as a brat it is me being playful, like poking at EDQ2's ribs or stealing his boxers when he is trying to get ready to go back to work or things of that naturel. Lol

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This is my interpretation of sarcasm. I am using the dictionary to be exact in my meaning.
A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.
A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule.

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Definitions of sarcasm on the Web:

witty language used to convey insults or scorn; "he used sarcasm to upset his opponent"; "irony is wasted on the stupid"; "Satire is a sort of glass, wherein beholders do generally discover everybody's face but their own"--Jonathan Swift
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
Sarcasm is the rhetorical device of using a characterization of something or someone in order to express contempt. It is closely connected with irony, in that the two are often combined in the same statement.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
A form of humor that is marked by mocking with irony, sometimes conveyed in speech with vocal over-emphasis. ...
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sarcasm
sarcastic - expressing or expressive of ridicule that wounds
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
sarcastically - in a sarcastic manner; "`Ah, now we're getting at the truth,' he interposed sarcastically"
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
sarcastic - Containing sarcasm; Having the personality trait of expressing sarcasm
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sarcastic
raw and scornful use of apparent approval to express disapproval. Another of London's favorite devices for social commentary.
london.sonoma.edu/Essays/glossary.html
is one kind of irony; it is praise which is really an insult; sarcasm generally invovles malice, the desire to put someone down, eg, "This is my brilliant son, who failed out of college."
academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/english/melani/lit_term.html
Sarcasm is a form of irony that attacks a person or belief through harsh and bitter remarks that often mean the opposite of what they say. See, for example, Dave Bidini's sarcastic description of arena names in "Kris King Looks Terrible": ". . . these days, arena names make little sense. ...
www.pearsoned.ca/text/flachmann4/gloss_iframe.html
A verbal tone in which it is obvious from context that the speaker means the opposite of what he or she says. “Mom, I'd love to see Howard the Duck with you” is probably a phrase you would say sarcastically.
www.sparknotes.com/testprep/books/newsat/chapter12section2.rhtml
a form of verbal irony in which apparent praise is actually harshly or bitterly critical.
www.wwnorton.com/litweb/glossary/glossary_s.htm
A sharp, caustic expression or remark; a bitter jibe or taunt; different from irony, which is more subtle.
www.jerichoschools.org/hs/teachers/lfischer/apvocab.htm
n. heavy use of apparent praise for an actual dispraise: it is the common man's usual form of irony; sarcasm is personal and intended to hurt.
station05.qc.ca/csrs/bouscol/anglais/book_report/glossary3.html
Remarks that mean the opposite of what they seem to say and are intended to mock or deride.
elearning.autism.net/en/mod/glossary/view.php
Language that conveys a certain idea by saying just he opposite such as if it's raining outside and you say, “My what a beautiful day.”
www.wcs.k12.va.us/users/honaker/Literary_TermsTeaching1.ppt

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ETA: I found your OP full of judgement and the one twue wayisms.

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ORIGINAL: RealSub5

Socrates did say: an unexamined life is not worth living.

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ORIGINAL: RealSub58

 

I don't appreciate some of the things spoken of me in the last paragraph but that is your opinion.....  I won't call it a judgment, cause I don't see it as such.  It's an opinion based on what your perceive of me.