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rulemylife -> RE: Why i hate Sundays (7/14/2010 9:43:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Missokyst

yeh... that seems heinous.  How DARE he foist his greetings upon you using his value system!  It would have been much more in keeping with society if he had said, fuck you for getting the good parking, have a day.  Yeah.  Much better.


Why did he feel the need to say anything at all?

If you were the person in the wheelchair wouldn't you find that somewhat condescending?




rulemylife -> RE: Why i hate Sundays (7/14/2010 9:50:13 AM)

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I would just say “Thank you but I am a proud atheist. You should read The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins.”



Which will come across as... "fuck you!" .. to someone who wished you well. Thereby proving once again that the beliefs most religious people have about atheists are true.


Interesting.

So let me see if I understand what you are saying.

Someone can make a reference to something that someone else does not believe in but if that second person politely affirms that he does not believe then he is the one being rude?

Is it not rude to foist your beliefs on others, regardless of whether it is well-intentioned?



Oh yeah, telling someone to read a book that calls their belief system a delusion is just so polite and proper.


But it is okay the other way around?

Because that is your belief system?




divi -> RE: Why i hate Sundays (7/14/2010 9:51:33 AM)

 
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A strange thing happened to me today. i was getting Donna out of the van (she's in a wheelchair and the van has a mechanical lift) at Burger King. Some guy we did not know, who was driving out of the parking lot, stopped behind us and called out his passenger window "God bless you". i said, (under my breath) "God doesn't want to bless me and i don't need it either".

what should one say or do in such a situation?


I've only gotten to page two, but I'm pretty sure my opinion of you won't change by the end. You are an idiot.
And I'm glad you aren't my next door neighbor.


maybe someday i'll learn NOT to come here for advice


You will never learn Mikey ...

adds:  I'm shocked that's all the person said to you ...

btw.. God Bless !!




Notsweet -> RE: Why i hate Sundays (7/14/2010 9:55:01 AM)

I am loving this thread, LOLOL!!

I've never understood why "Live and let live" is such a heinous concept.

God bless all of you who aren't mortally offended by it. The rest of you can go to hell.




Notsweet -> RE: Why i hate Sundays (7/14/2010 9:56:02 AM)

divi, that wasn't for you, obviously. i just hit fast reply [8D]




rulemylife -> RE: Why i hate Sundays (7/14/2010 9:58:42 AM)

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I have better things to do than get irritated that someone wants to wish me well.  Meh.


If you want to wish someone well then say "I wish you well".

No need to inject belief systems into it.



Let me see if I understand you correctly.  You want someone else to say the precise words of what YOU want them to say even if it goes against their own way of interacting in the world.  You expect others to re-arrange the way they talk to make you happy?  Seriously, people are saying something kind and loving.  You say to me, "I wish you well," and I'm wondering why you would throw Gorean philosophy at me AND I'm wondering why I give a flying fig what you think.  And I'm wondering about the high horse you are on.... that's if I took a few seconds to think about it.  (Obviously I just did)... in day to day life, I just accept the SPIRIT of what someone says to me.  I don't expect them to interact in the manner *I* prescribe to them. 

If I had your attitude, I wouldn't last one week in another culture. 

Is this seriously the thing that bugs you?  Honey, get over yourself, and live and let live.

best,
sunshine


Well, to begin with with I don't know a thing about Gorean philosophy.

The phrase I used was generic and not intended to relate to that in any way.

But by being offended by that remark I think you have made my point better than I could.






mikeyOfGeorgia -> RE: Why i hate Sundays (7/14/2010 10:22:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Notsweet

I am loving this thread, LOLOL!!

I've never understood why "Live and let live" is such a heinous concept.

God bless all of you who aren't mortally offended by it. The rest of you can go to hell.


there is no Hell (just as there is no Heaven). it's all an illusion to keep people scared and in line.




divi -> RE: Why i hate Sundays (7/14/2010 10:27:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Notsweet

divi, that wasn't for you, obviously. i just hit fast reply [8D]

It's okay sweet.  I'm not Mikey my panties don't get in a twist over shit like that.  lol




Notsweet -> RE: Why i hate Sundays (7/14/2010 10:59:54 AM)

Mikey, if you think there's no hell, clearly you have never lived with my ex-husband.




tazzygirl -> RE: Why i hate Sundays (7/14/2010 12:45:13 PM)


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I would just say “Thank you but I am a proud atheist. You should read The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins.”



Which will come across as... "fuck you!" .. to someone who wished you well. Thereby proving once again that the beliefs most religious people have about atheists are true.


Interesting.

So let me see if I understand what you are saying.

Someone can make a reference to something that someone else does not believe in but if that second person politely affirms that he does not believe then he is the one being rude?

Is it not rude to foist your beliefs on others, regardless of whether it is well-intentioned?



Oh yeah, telling someone to read a book that calls their belief system a delusion is just so polite and proper.


But it is okay the other way around?

Because that is your belief system?



If i sneeze and someone says... gesundheit,,, i dont get upset. If you sneeze and someone says,., god bless you... do you get upset? I dont hold strangers accountable for knowing if im religious or not. Seems you are saying everyone should assume everyone on earth is not religious and leave their religion at home. Saying "god bless you" when someone sneezed has been around since 77 AD. It became a popal edict around 590 AD during the time of the blubonic plague.


Gregory's decision "went viral," (pardon the pun) and cemented a casual, though unfounded, courtesy that had been in place since around 77 A.D. That blessings are bequeathed upon the nasally irritated here in North America is, today, just part of the conscription to a larger global etiquette. South of the border, sneezers are more likely to hear "¡Salud!" (health). Traveling the world with a cold may also bring blessings like "alhamdulilah" (Arabic for "praise be to God), "á vos souhaits" ("to your wishes" in France) or the Irish "dia leat" (God be with you).

Though rare today, the bubonic plague can still, within a mere four to seven days, claim a frightening half of all the lives it touches. It is curable if treated early, though, so if you happen to stumble across some poor, sneezing (or more likely, coughing) soul with rings around his rosies, by all means, do offer your blessings—then offer directions to the nearest emergency room.



Read more at Suite101: Gesundheit!: Sneezing, Blessings and the Bubonic Plague http://cultural-anthropology.suite101.com/article.cfm/gesundheit#ixzz0tghEZYHL

There are often reasons why we do the things we do, many out of tradition more than anything else. But, suddenly, because some atheist takes "offence" we have to change.

Personally, rule, i think you are making a mountain range out of a mole hill.




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