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Unless I get confused on what exactly was "my way" when my cock is shoved to the hilt down her throat.

Intelligent women are sneaky like that.

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Intelligence at times can be a hindrance..How is that possible right..How could anyone even think that...It's simple...sometimes a person can over think a thing..sometimes a person can second guess and or have trouble letting go of control because of this.

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You are confused, intelligence does not cause one to over think, obsession does. Intelligence does not cause one to second guess, self doubt does. Intelligence does not cause one to fear letting go, insecurity does.

An intelligent person may be obsessive, insecure, and full of self doubt, but they do not do these things BECAUSE they are intelligent.

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ORIGINAL: interlocutor

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Intelligence at times can be a hindrance..How is that possible right..How could anyone even think that...It's simple...sometimes a person can over think a thing..sometimes a person can second guess and or have trouble letting go of control because of this.

You are confused, intelligence does not cause one to over think, obsession does. Intelligence does not cause one to second guess, self doubt does. Intelligence does not cause one to fear letting go, insecurity does.

An intelligent person may be obsessive, insecure, and full of self doubt, but they do not do these things BECAUSE they are intelligent.

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ORIGINAL: interlocutor

Blaming supposed "higher intelligence" for ones shortcomings is blaming the tool for the manner in which it is used.

All of the behaviors in this thread being described as "symptoms" of intelligence are all caused by something else. If one fails to acknowledge the ACTUAL cause of the behaviors and instead hides behind an excuse i.e. "I'm too smart for my own good," that can hardly be considered intelligent.

Continue with your name calling.

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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

I used to think the same as you...until I met someone who was able to bring me to that place better than anyone else ever did. And he is not as smart as me. But that is part of the point. Someone can get into your submissive head without having the brilliance you think you need for the rest of the relationship.

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At least that is what surprisingly happened with me. Sometimes someone is able to listen enough to understand what buttons to push...even though they might not be as quick thinking as you or be able to discuss literature.

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ORIGINAL: interlocutor

Blaming supposed "higher intelligence" for ones shortcomings is blaming the tool for the manner in which it is used.

All of the behaviors in this thread being described as "symptoms" of intelligence are all caused by something else. If one fails to acknowledge the ACTUAL cause of the behaviors and instead hides behind an excuse i.e. "I'm too smart for my own good," that can hardly be considered intelligent.

Continue with your name calling.

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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Hello Icarys,

*I've not read the entire thread.  Beg your pardon if this is a rehash*

There are many kinds of intelligence.  I'm attaching a link to a site that describes the 9 types of intelligence that have been proposed.  One of the places people get stuck is that one person's type of intelligence is not the same as another person's.  If you are a wordsmith and don't value kinesthetic intelligence and you are with a person with that type of strength, then the other person can become frustrated and restless if not permitted to express that.  By acknowledging and encouraging the *natural* inclination of someone, the frustration and restlessness can be abated.  If however, you want to turn a painter into a mathematician, that's a whole other story. 

It reminds me of the old joke - don't try to teach a pig to sing.  It will just hurt your ears and irritate the pig.  I'd say that unless the natural intellect is *engaged*, a certain restlessness can arise and make the relationship difficult. 

http://www.macalester.edu/psychology/whathap/ubnrp/intelligence05/mtypes.html

I think I'll stop there for the moment.  I have some book learning to do!

Best,
sunshine

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ORIGINAL: WestBaySlave

Every time I've turned off that critical voice in my mind, it's lead to trouble. As time has past, I've only become more intensely analytical of the men I've involved myself with, and in general, my life has been all the better for it.

In answer to your quote "Use your intelligence for the good of the relationship. Use it and find a way to submit instead of using it to justify a way out of it." Well, it all depends on the man or woman in question. Goodness knows I tried to find all kind of excuses for my first dom, argue with myself as to why his most blatant lies must be true, and in general have faith and submit to a man who deserved neither my trust nor my submission. Me being a good slave to him did nothing to make him a good master, and after a certain point, I realized I was a holding a candle for someone who'd never see me as anything apart from an occasional playdate.

It's easy but rather naive for a good-natured dominant to think "Well, I know I'm trustworthy and safe to submit to, obviously it's the sub's problem if they're not unquestioning in their submission."

There are good liars and doms don't have transparent heads. Especially when I'm getting to know a man, there will be a ton of questions and never an instant trust. A "why" is not the same as a "no", however, and if I question a man's orders it's to understand him and his desires better, not to undermine his authority. I'm only compatible with a man who feels similarly.

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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Hello Icarys,
Yes, I love neurology.  It is fascinating.  Loved it in uni, but alas, I've not been in that side of things for awhile.  My information is thin at best.  Perhaps a more medical person would be the one for you to chat with about that. 

But as to the corpus callosum, the highway between the hemispheres... I started to do the research, but it's too late, and I'm too tired to sift through the Korean library system that I use to get access to academic articles.  Sorry!   

Now, off to bed and then off to the wild blue yonder!

Best to you,
sunshine

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i am smart, i have a beautiful face and a great body, and in the shower i sing pretty good too... that was 4 blessings i am pretty happy about... and i can count much much more than that
who is slamming who julia?

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it's more that I'm deeply inter- and intra-personally intelligent, and I'm overly analytical in every which way. I cannot shut my brain off, except when someone turns it off for me, in certain delicious, dark moments.

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But at the end of the day, on the shit that really matters, it is my way. Unless I get confused on what exactly was "my way" when my cock is shoved to the hilt down her throat.

Intelligent women are sneaky like that.

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ORIGINAL: Icarys
I'm looking for your views and experiences with or as "intelligent slaves".