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RE: When being smart can be a curse. - 8/23/2010 1:45:21 AM   
Twoshoes


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ORIGINAL: jujubeeMB
I love challenging my Dom, and giving him the incredible pleasure that comes - I've been told - with watching a really intelligent, capable person drop to their knees for you. It's not a negative - it's another way of enjoying the power you have over someone.

Woooaooow. ...




I rarely meet people noticeably more intelligent than me and they usually hide it very well. At a certain point, the social benefit of humility supersedes the need for recognition.


Asub4fun: Your list of requirements isn't long enough to be ridiculous, you just need patience.
However, if you're not willing to submit, no one can force you. The most a dominant person could do is to not get affected by your reaction or to talk to you calmly. You can always "win" by removing consent. If you "get away" with stuff 25% of the time - so what? A Dom has the right to decide something is not bothering him. Personally, few things actually piss me off and they're not something to toy with.


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Some of the most intelligent people i know do not have an ounce of common sense. Some of the most sensible people can be said to have limited intelligence

I would rather deal with the sensible ones, personally.

I do have common sense, but I'm definately not 'sensible' or 'rational' - I'm an idealist. I've hinted at this before: I prefer to process the world primarily through instincts and feelings. I can emulate 'rational thought' quite well for 'intellectual' purposes, but I find it unnatural when expressing 'personal' ideas.

People like me have their uses (as porcelaine would say): either something intellectually creative or based on feelings/instincts (like acting, psychology).

Finally, if I spoke this conceitedly I would literally have 3 friends total (all smurfs), which is a good reason to sound dumb. (The opposite of porcelaine's life strategy it seems. (Quantity vs Quality.))

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RE: When being smart can be a curse. - 8/31/2010 10:36:52 AM   
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I am pretty well-educated (PhD) so I prefer smart subs.....although many of them seem to be attracted to uneducated guys with large muscles and/or large sums of cash.

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RE: When being smart can be a curse. - 8/31/2010 11:23:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: roland23

I am pretty well-educated (PhD) so I prefer smart subs.....although many of them seem to be attracted to uneducated guys with large muscles and/or large sums of cash.

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Well, if you're a PhD, you must realize that large muscles and large sums of cash are two things you can predictably obtain at nearly any age. (If you think that is what is stopping you.)




"When being smart can be a curse"?
Monogamy Agnonists

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RE: When being smart can be a curse. - 8/31/2010 12:38:29 PM   
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You will find a good one. =)

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RE: When being smart can be a curse. - 9/1/2010 10:20:14 AM   
Twoshoes


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ORIGINAL: MistressofMN

You will find a good one. =)


Thank you.
Welcome to the forums - nice first post.

It's not the finding part that is tricky for me.
I certainly have my list of traits that some might find highly incompatible. I've written in other threads that I tend to be chaotic and unpredictable. Which is great sometimes and really annoying when someone you haven't seen in 2 weeks calls you from someplace you haven't heard of...


What I meant to explain above:

If my profile were to state that I don't want to "micromanage" anyone, I shouldn't be getting upset that "slaves" won't respond to me.
I can either look for someone different or learn to micromanage people, but getting upset at them about it won't help.

So I don't see the benefit in complaining about women wanting money (or anything else): You can either go work at it or find someone who thinks the same way.

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RE: When being smart can be a curse. - 9/1/2010 4:03:27 PM   
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Intelligence can be a liability when the other party views it as a threat rather than an asset the dominant can expand and utilize positively. Seeing the knowledge and the experience in their proper context is key.

~porcelaine



Admittedly, I did not have enough time to wade through all the posts on this subject, but the above says it well. Intelligence is neither a threat nor is it benign. It simply exists. What people chose to do with it is what really matters.

Any Dom who felt threatened by my intelligence only reveals that he is insecure. And if I felt threatened by my Dom's intelligence, then I might fall into the trap of thinking he is omniscient, which no one is. So just accept and move on...

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RE: When being smart can be a curse. - 9/2/2010 1:25:43 AM   
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I am intelligent (book smart, not social smart) but am a terrible mindreader. Though I had no reason to try to prove that I am intelligent (I don't really care if anyone thinks I am or not), my Master did everything he could to belittle me and let me know that I was not. He would ask me provoking questions to get a response from me and then punish me emotionally for giving my opinion, which I thought is what he had asked for. I quickly learned how to just answer in such a way as to agree with him and keep my own thoughts to myself. I over-thought things often because I never really knew what was wanted of me and yet continued to try to figure it out. I never challenged him and was obedient to the end when one day he sent me away.

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RE: When being smart can be a curse. - 9/2/2010 11:00:52 AM   
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So I don't see the benefit in complaining about women wanting money (or anything else): You can either go work at it or find someone who thinks the same way.


There is only one way I would make money/good lifestyle a requirement and that would be if my Dom/Master wanted me to quit my job and stay at home 24/7. If he is going to ask me to give up a lifestyle I work hard for to provide a nice lifestyle for myself, then He has to be prepared to keep up that lifestyle, otherwise I will continue to work and won't be a 24/7 sub. I think that is reasonable. I am not looking for someone to take care of me and keep me in the lap of luxury, I actually prefer to make my own living, but if He wants me home then He has to take care of me. Either way it is His choice (of course lol).

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