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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/13/2010 11:06:24 PM

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~groans

Wait, its ok... lol... i can always wake Master up!

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/13/2010 11:06:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

What? Time travel wasn't good enough for you? Picky woman! lol

Phft, what if he was a time traveling sub? I wouldn't know what to do with him!

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Wait, its ok... lol... i can always wake Master up!

Lucky... *looks at the clock, debates pulling an all-nighter and if she could survive at work tomorrow on no sleep... *

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/13/2010 11:57:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: Farido

Thanks for the reply. I agree with you on "ways" rather than "the way".. but when you start new school education with a 1st grade child you can't give him/her more than one way to start with until he/she feels they like it and likes you as a teacher. If you succeed in that then you can go stages with the students into other ways, one at a time to understand and digest it, and so on.

So for me now it is like I am with a first time school student who must like his/her teacher so he/she can like the topic before we go on higher grades.

You can throw a 1st grade student into a high school part,, can you?

Seems to Me that it would be the teacher that would have to adjust to the student. Are you suggesting that in your parallel, that the teaching degree becomes null and void if someone teaching one age group switches jobs and then teaches another age group? That wouldn't mean that their prior teaching experience would be useless. It would kind of suck if they spent ten years teaching high school, but were seen as never having taught first grade when that new job opening came up. The skills acquired interacting with the students should count for something.

Same thing. Every person who is experienced in authority dynamics has a fabulous resource pool. What worked with your own learning process when you were new? Why couldn't those methods be used in the same way for the other side of the kneel? You have a base of information here from your own experience.

Speaking of which, take Aqua's suggestion and get the girl off of the net if it's not being balanced with experience in the real world. If we're going to talk about education here, what better way for her to get some? Do you really want her not to have any practical examples? Heck, even the first grade/entry leveling learning isn't all about reading. It's about doing, too.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 12:32:02 AM

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Thank you everybody for your efforts.

How can I close this thread?

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 1:16:53 AM

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It will live on (and on, and on, and on) in the archives.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 2:47:39 AM

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OP, your post could be read as "I'm a Dom, and I have a submissive. What do I do with her?"

The answer is obvious - YOU should learn as much about the lifestyle as you can in a crash course. She's handing you the keys to her world...

Simply put, you should be giving her assignments for two reasons:
1. To get her accustomed to the feel of carrying them out.
2. You want the end result.

Do this properly and you will have her undying devotion for life. Screw it up, and you will have the bitch from Hell after you.

Good luck to both of you.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 4:28:03 AM

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ORIGINAL: Farido

Hello everyone. I am a dom/master man and have been enjoying this life style with sub and slave women for a couple of years. All of them where pretty pre-educated or experienced. It was fun but not long term.

I recently posted an ad somewhere looking for a true sub/slave for 24/7 long-term-commitment. One of the responses was very interesting and I want to stick to that girl but need your kind help.

She is 19 and virgin. Never had a boyfriend and openly asked me to show her the way and teach her to be my sub. We agreed to keep our new relationship on online-chatting (and on the phones) until she feels safe and comfortable enough to meet in person (after my permission of course). We have been together for a few weeks now doing Q&As and she is very obedient so far in committing to our chatting on time and answering all my questions.

Now I need your help of how to take it a step further (still online and on the phone) in starting giving her Assignments and Tasks to do while incorporating the teaching element in between.

Your help and guidance will be greatly appreciated. Again my friends, it is about starting online Assignments and Tasks until I can say that she is really my obedient sub enough to meet in person. She is very sexual but still at the "careful stage" due to lack of knowledge and training. I'm talking here about ending with a full sub/dom 24/7 commitment.

OP, I'm stuck on the same thing you are....

What exactly is the importance and relevance of these assignments etc when you yourself don't even know the 'whats' and 'whys' of assigning them in the first place? It just sounds like meaningless "busy work".... You're the one leading her so it seems reasonable that you should know where you're going.

If it's actually a *relationship* you want with her then focus on that rather than what amounts to cliche'd role playing. FIRST you meet her then you decide if you BOTH want to proceed to the next level of giving and taking direction etc.

Focus.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 4:39:39 AM

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I agree with Focus (wow.. twice in as many months!! lol)

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 6:12:13 AM

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sounds to me like neither you or your "wannabe sub" virgin, have much of a grasp on D/s. But heres a little hint... a sub wants to be entertained, creatively, the worst thing you can do is met her and tell her to get on her knees and suck your cock, or fuck her, then roll or and snore the rest of the night away. Keep her on her toes, always in cadence, always with a goal. Focus her mind on being yours at all times. Theres no set system of making her a sub, but the old quote is never more true. "capture her mind and her body will follow"

me personally? I am a sadistic fuck and a little twisted, I would withhold sex from her, if she is really a virgin, she will need to crave it, get her focused on serving you mentally and she will beg for it. I like when they beg.

Want my honest opinion? I think this post should be called "wannabe Dom, with virgin girl fantasy"

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 6:48:35 AM

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I could give you a list of tasks, but believe you would be better served by a list of books:
http://www.collarchat.com/m_1726118/tm.htm

I own many and they were very helpful to me and my husband when we started our BDSM journey in 1996.

At that time, all the experienced people recommended attending local events, which as you will note is still true today.

Good luck and welcome,

KK

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 6:55:24 AM

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If you are close enough to meet fairly easily, I highly suggest doing so. Nothing can beat the first meeting. Do it in a safe place. Meet at a donut shop for coffee, and don't take it beyond that the first visit. You never completely know you will be compatible with another until you meet them. I met my Master online, and we were together for four months before we could meet in real life. And I was terrified I wouldn't truly like him or him me until we actually met, even though I was in love with his phone/online self. But it only took one moment of looking into his eyes in real life at the airport to know he controlled my everything.

And I also suggest doing what my Master did for me, and what many of these smart people suggest. Have her meet others, and learn more about the lifestyle on her own. One of the first things my Master did when he claimed me was to require me to make an account here, read the forums, and read books so I had a better idea of what I was getting into (at that time, going to munches and such in my local area was not in the cards for me). Discussing what I learned made for thrilling conversation and experimentation for months!

And funny enough, learning about how varied and expansive the world of Dominance and submission was, it made me come to love and respect my own Master more for his particular brand of delicious control.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 7:00:25 AM

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ORIGINAL: Farido
true sub/slave

You could start by losing the "true". What's "true" to me may not be to you.

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until I can say that she is really my obedient sub enough to meet in person.

First off, what ever her submissive traits are, you won't find that out by doing assignments and wanking off online. Second, your statement is just irritating. You expect a stranger to prove that they're submissive to you before you'll make any effort to meet. Blech.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 7:38:09 AM

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

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ORIGINAL: Farido
true sub/slave
You could start by losing the "true". What's "true" to me may not be to you.

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until I can say that she is really my obedient sub enough to meet in person.
First off, what ever her submissive traits are, you won't find that out by doing assignments and wanking off online. Second, your statement is just irritating. You expect a stranger to prove that they're submissive to you before you'll make any effort to meet. Blech.

Bravo OsideGirl! this boy is clearly what my brothers would have called a "chump" and his online 19 year old virgin sub wanna be is likely to be a 50 year old bald fat loser, wanking on the other side of the line.

my best advise to the OP, get a grip

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 7:56:53 AM

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ORIGINAL: Farido
She is 19 and virgin. Never had a boyfriend and openly asked me to show her the way and teach her to be my sub. We agreed to keep our new relationship on online-chatting (and on the phones) until she feels safe and comfortable enough to meet in person (after my permission of course). We have been together for a few weeks now doing Q&As and she is very obedient so far in committing to our chatting on time and answering all my questions.

Meet in real life and do something platonic together. This demonstrates that meeting off the net isn't omg scary, that kinky men are just people too, and that it's possible to be friends with someone who shares your sexual interests. If you stay online, you allow her to think of kink and sex as something done in a second life, not in real life.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 7:57:58 AM

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Welcome to the forums, Farido. I suggest you take some time and
initiative in quietly reading the many many MANY previous posts
regarding this subject. There is a very handy SEARCH button on the
top right of the forums, and by simply typing in Online Training, you
will have access to a wide variety of previous opinions/advice.
Here is one in particular that also lists some online programs that
could be helpful in your quest. Best of luck to the both of you.
http://www.collarchat.com/m_3429965/mpage_1/key_online%252Ctraining/tm.htm#3432204

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 8:06:15 AM

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ORIGINAL: DomArtist4u
Bravo OsideGirl! this boy is clearly what my brothers would have called a "chump" and his online 19 year old virgin sub wanna be is likely to be a 50 year old bald fat loser, wanking on the other side of the line.

My hit is actually in the opposite direction, now that I have read the thread. If they've spoken on the phone, she's probably a babe. He, on the other hand, sounds invested in keeping things online only, and focused on him-only. Perhaps he has, ah, other commitments, that constrain his ability to meet in real life.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 8:11:53 AM

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OP, I was wondering if when you attacked Hogwarts on Halloween and ended up with a wand up your nose, did it hurt?

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 8:20:11 AM

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Thank you. You really got the point here.

First,We have spoken on the phone
Second, to prove my point in the importance of spending some initial time online,,,I was happy to se a couple of other replies from slaves in which one of them spent a month online and the other one spent 4 months online before they actually met. And they both say that the result was great.

Beside, she lives a bout two hours away from me.

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

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ORIGINAL: DomArtist4u
Bravo OsideGirl! this boy is clearly what my brothers would have called a "chump" and his online 19 year old virgin sub wanna be is likely to be a 50 year old bald fat loser, wanking on the other side of the line.

My hit is actually in the opposite direction, now that I have read the thread. If they've spoken on the phone, she's probably a babe. He, on the other hand, sounds invested in keeping things online only, and focused on him-only. Perhaps he has, ah, other commitments, that constrain his ability to meet in real life.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 8:23:27 AM

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Very helpful. thanks you very much

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

I could give you a list of tasks, but believe you would be better served by a list of books:
http://www.collarchat.com/m_1726118/tm.htm

I own many and they were very helpful to me and my husband when we started our BDSM journey in 1996.

At that time, all the experienced people recommended attending local events, which as you will note is still true today.

Good luck and welcome,

KK

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 8:25:54 AM

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I appreciate your input. Very clear and directly to the point.

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

OP, your post could be read as "I'm a Dom, and I have a submissive. What do I do with her?"

The answer is obvious - YOU should learn as much about the lifestyle as you can in a crash course. She's handing you the keys to her world...

Simply put, you should be giving her assignments for two reasons:
1. To get her accustomed to the feel of carrying them out.
2. You want the end result.

Do this properly and you will have her undying devotion for life. Screw it up, and you will have the bitch from Hell after you.

Good luck to both of you.

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