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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 9:04:02 AM

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Then this will really blow your mind.

My first Master i knew 3 years on line before meeting. Ended in disaster.

My second attempt, i knew him even longer, 8 years, though only as friends before attempting at a relationship. Didnt end well at all.

My third attempt led me to Master's door. 10 years on line... lol... i laugh because he hated me for a long time. Been with him going on two years now.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 9:30:19 AM

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ORIGINAL: Farido

Thank you everybody for your efforts.

How can I close this thread?

Go look at the TOS. Violate it.

Beyond that... it won't get closed unless you beg the mods really nicely or someone else decides to risk TOS on this thread.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 9:34:38 AM

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ORIGINAL: Farido

Thank you. You really got the point here.

First,We have spoken on the phone
Second, to prove my point in the importance of spending some initial time online,,,I was happy to se a couple of other replies from slaves in which one of them spent a month online and the other one spent 4 months online before they actually met. And they both say that the result was great.

Beside, she lives a bout two hours away from me.

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ORIGINAL: DomArtist4u
Bravo OsideGirl! this boy is clearly what my brothers would have called a "chump" and his online 19 year old virgin sub wanna be is likely to be a 50 year old bald fat loser, wanking on the other side of the line.

My hit is actually in the opposite direction, now that I have read the thread. If they've spoken on the phone, she's probably a babe. He, on the other hand, sounds invested in keeping things online only, and focused on him-only. Perhaps he has, ah, other commitments, that constrain his ability to meet in real life.

I think you missed his point...

So... why can't you meet her? For every relationship that starts well online, we've got about a hundred threads about the online masters and slaves who disappeared.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 9:35:42 AM

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Your 46, shes 19. Do the first meeting in public.
Two hours isn't that far away.

Have her read the forums here, they are a wealth of information.
You read them also and then talk about what you both have read.

Go to munches and other events.

Good luck to both of you.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 9:42:33 AM

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Why can't you come up with it on your own. You're supposedly the Dom and the one who knows her, not us so do your own work on how to train her.

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ORIGINAL: Farido

Thank you once more for the effort.

My main point where I need help is still:
((( Can you help in designing beginner Assignments and Tasks for a new online submissive wannabe (under training) ?))))

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 9:48:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

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She is 19 and virgin. Never had a boyfriend and openly asked me to show her the way and teach her to be my sub. We agreed to keep our new relationship on online-chatting (and on the phones) until she feels safe and comfortable enough to meet in person (after my permission of course). We have been together for a few weeks now doing Q&As and she is very obedient so far in committing to our chatting on time and answering all my questions.

Meet in real life and do something platonic together. This demonstrates that meeting off the net isn't omg scary, that kinky men are just people too, and that it's possible to be friends with someone who shares your sexual interests. If you stay online, you allow her to think of kink and sex as something done in a second life, not in real life.

Red Magic - destroying fantasies one at a time. *sigh*

To the OP: I've gone to other continents to meet people. I *wish* somebody I'm interested in lived two hours away.

I don't understand why you think spending time online is important. I'd venture to say the opposite is true. You don't know if you like each other - you know pheremones and such - and you give folks the opportunity to build stuff up in their minds.

Seriously, get thee to a coffee shop and say how do you do.

As far as what to do with her? Get to know her. And the rest should just happen organically... or not at all.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 10:37:06 AM

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Beside, she lives a bout two hours away from me.

Now you're just coming across as lazy.

I never understand why people make a big deal over a two hour drive. Heck, I drove further than that to be one of the presenters at an event this past weekend. That's a day trip. My own sub drove three hours for the first time for the opportunity to meet Me. I've had people travel from various points across the country to do the same.

Personally, I'm of the mind that if you want something to happen, you make it happen. That requires some action on your part. Meaning, get up off of your butt and make the drive instead of playing some silly game on a computer.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 10:42:29 AM

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I agree it is very important to meet in person. Two hours away? That's nothing. The ONLY reason Master and I waited for four months is because we are 2100 miles away from one another, and the cost of hotel and airfare in a harsh economy was a factor. I would have met Master in a real life situation, a SAFE PLATONIC situation, within a week if we were only two hours apart. I'm envious of you, OP. Only two hours away. Sigh.

While our time together online and on the phone is wonderful, nothing compares to being in his presence. In my opinion, it's especially important in a D/s dynamic, because you can FEEL the palpable way someone affects you on a gut instinct level when you are with them in person. Master owned me before I met him, but it only truly CLICKED on an instinctual gut-deep level when I felt his dominant presence in person. There's nothing like it. Just my humble experience.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 11:05:58 AM

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ORIGINAL: Farido

Thank you everybody for your efforts.

How can I close this thread?

Oh I don't want this thread to end.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 11:14:32 AM

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I'm with DarkSteven on this, with a good measure of Focus50 as well.

Are you seriously looking for a 24/7 relationship? Because when you said this...

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Beside, she lives a bout two hours away from me.

It seemed to me that you're not that serious?

If it's only two hours - you've no excuse for not meeting up!

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 11:30:26 AM

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Thanks for the reply. I agree with you on "ways" rather than "the way".. but when you start new school education with a 1st grade child you can't give him/her more than one way to start with until he/she feels they like it and likes you as a teacher. If you succeed in that then you can go stages with the students into other ways, one at a time to understand and digest it, and so on.

I disagree. Any time I've actually been trying to TRAIN a new sub (or dom), I've gone out of my way to expose that person to everything I could think of including the things that I found personally distasteful. I never had any problem with that. The way I saw it, I might as well start them out on the right foot and not let any "one true way" thoughts get planted in their head.

Why is it so hard to say, "Here's how I see it. Now, that other group over there thinks of this differently. In their minds...."

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 11:36:51 AM

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19 and a virgin?

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She's probably bi-sexual, too.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 11:38:35 AM

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19 and a virgin?

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She's probably bi-sexual, too.

Maybe she has a hot sister too. Val says it's probably a twin sister.

If the OP returns, I suggest he read and reread Jeff's post over and over a few times.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 12:05:54 PM

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here is what amazes me...
shes 19, a virgin, never had a boyfriend and is ready and willing to enter not only her first relationship, but a 24/7 D/s relationship with a man more than twice her age whom shes never met. She must be quite smitten with your charm ad carisma, and anyone offering you advise should be clearly asking YOU for advise.
I have been searching for 10 years for this woman, no matter where she lives, you live two hours away and feel the need to keep it an online relationship? maybe you should have named the thread "anyone spare some change for busfare so I can go meet a hot young sub virgin?"
so tell us Prince Charming, where and how does one find such a fantastic fresh young sub wannabe?

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 12:06:19 PM

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Beside, she lives a bout two hours away from me.

The happiest I've ever been as a submissive was in a long distance M/s relationship. Then I moved in with him and it all fell apart and I became the most miserable I've ever been. I sure couldn't tell he was a [deleted], [deleted], [deleted], [deleted], [deleted] over the phone.

If your intent is to have a real time relationship, just make the two hour drive and have dinner. Then you'll know if you want to move forward or not.

We are waiting for you to allay our suspicions that you are married and therefore fine with online only.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 12:34:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: DomArtist4u

here is what amazes me...
shes 19, a virgin, never had a boyfriend and is ready and willing to enter not only her first relationship, but a 24/7 D/s relationship with a man more than twice her age whom shes never met. She must be quite smitten with your charm ad carisma, and anyone offering you advise should be clearly asking YOU for advise.
I have been searching for 10 years for this woman, no matter where she lives, you live two hours away and feel the need to keep it an online relationship? maybe you should have named the thread "anyone spare some change for busfare so I can go meet a hot young sub virgin?"
so tell us Prince Charming, where and how does one find such a fantastic fresh young sub wannabe?

Now look DomArtist4u. You are asking me Prince Charming (your words) of "HOW" because you want to learn? I will tell you how;

I posted an ad on the internet/classified asking for exactly what I want. I didn't at all talk about my look (Killer Blue Eyes, Walking Tall...(((I'm looking at your profile now)))....etc.). I just mentioned my age and said that I am not looking for immediate sex but rather building a relationship as a life style with 24/7 sub/slave. Almost all of the replies I received here from women between 19 and 32 of age. Some wanted to take time to learn and some wanted to come same night and start. I eliminated those who were driven only by their sexual desire while showing no understanding to long term commitment.

The point is: I was looking for a personality and attitude (not a physical look) so I received replies from those who wanted the personality and attitude.

Any more questions Mr. Killer Blue Eyes?

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 12:39:02 PM

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The point is: I was looking for a personality and attitude (not a physical look) so I received replies from those who wanted the personality and attitude.

Yet you felt her age and virginity were worth mentioning even though her sexuality isn't important to you.

So... when are you going to meet her and confirm that she is who she says she is and that you are who you say you are. After all, as her teacher, I assume that you are informing her how many people will portray themselves as teachers and mentors when they are just going after fresh meat. And teaching her how to tell the difference and, of course, setting a good example by making yourself ready to meet her to show her that you are everything you've said you are.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 12:45:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: DomArtist4u

here is what amazes me...
shes 19, a virgin, never had a boyfriend and is ready and willing to enter not only her first relationship, but a 24/7 D/s relationship with a man more than twice her age whom shes never met. She must be quite smitten with your charm ad carisma, and anyone offering you advise should be clearly asking YOU for advise.
I have been searching for 10 years for this woman, no matter where she lives, you live two hours away and feel the need to keep it an online relationship? maybe you should have named the thread "anyone spare some change for busfare so I can go meet a hot young sub virgin?"
so tell us Prince Charming, where and how does one find such a fantastic fresh young sub wannabe?

Let's assume that what he says is all true, it's online and since it's online it might be easier to charm her, she's at home in her own environment on the computer, she will feel more secure as if she was out in a bar, she talks to a guy who's older, at the age of 19 older guys have a great appeal to most girls. She's still a virgin so she's possibly shy around the other sex, at the internet it doesn't matter... She possibly read some erotic novels or bodice rippers where the woman finds her true love in the end, the swashbuckling masterful guy, she discovers sweet submission, they ride off into the sunset, or she thinks she's one of the houseplants of Gor...

Unless they meet in real life they will never know, because face to face is so different than over the net...

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 12:51:29 PM

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While I appreciate everybody's input here I kindly ask those aggressive participants to carefully read each of my full answers and take it as one piece rather than cutting only one or two sentences from a full answer and reply only to that one or two pieces which makes your answers look like you are on a completely different track.

For example, my new girl's sexuality was not the main factor for me but rather her will to learn and work on a full long term relationship.

The main issue for me remains that out of 57 posts so far (including mine), only two of them have seriously tackled my original request about "Designing Assignments and Tasks for a new sub/slave".

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 12:56:30 PM

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ORIGINAL: Farido

While I appreciate everybody's input here I kindly ask those aggressive participants to carefully read each of my full answers and take it as one piece rather than cutting only one or two sentences from a full answer and reply only to that one or two pieces which makes your answers look like you are on a completely different track.

Actually we do that because the moderators of this forum have asked us many times to trim our quotes when they get too long. So those of us who post frequently, out of respect for those skimming along and out of respect for the mods, delete everything but what we are specifically replying/responding/questioning.

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For example, my new girl's sexuality was not the main factor for me but rather her will to learn and work on a full long term relationship.

Which still doesn't answer why you posted it if it doesn't matter.

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The main issue for me remains that out of 57 posts so far (including mine), only two of them have seriously tackled my original request about "Designing Assignments and Tasks for a new sub/slave".

Honestly, and don't take this the wrong way...

Tough cookies. Nobody owes you the answers you want. Instead you've got a lot of people going "are you fucking serious?" because you - evidently - have this great girl but you can't be bothered to drive two hours to meet her nor bothered to think of your own ideas for tasks and assignments.

Though I'm still curious why - since you can't be bothered with a two hour drive to meet this fantastic virgin - you don't task her with getting her ass out the door and learning and then reporting back to you on what she has learned. Unless, of course, you are nervous she'll find someone who will realize that she is worth driving hours for.

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