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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 1:59:38 PM   
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You wasted your time. You FAILED to help.



That or you failed at reading her post and everyone else who is telling you get off your ass and go meet this girl and to think of your own assignments. Though, seriously, I doubt she'll much care that you think she failed.

Sometimes the help we need isn't the help we want.

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Conveniently for you women, us men don't care about your hysteria and logic because we just think with our cocks and our cocks just want to fuck.



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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 2:00:42 PM   
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With no decency, to tell me not to come, knowing his aunt said no  who was sponging off his aunt and his uncle, and so when I got there he was, not only late picking me up from the airport, the moment I walked into his aunts home she screamed to get me the hell out of her house, I told you she couldn't come here.



Oh.... Wow.... Jeez....

I'm so sorry you went through that sweetie!




A story like that makes me feel blessed, when I was really young, I met a guy online, he came to visit me and it was oh so wonderful and I was an idiot, didn't realize that letters and stuff went all to his office and that I only had the office phone and mobiles were more expensive (he had such brilliant excuses and the time difference made it easier as he was hardly ever at home, blah blah), especially when you called internationally. I almost chucked in university as he wanted me to come and live with him in New Jersey (he said)... I was freelancing for magazines at the time and sent to NYC as a staffer who was meant to go broke a leg, thought on the day off I go to Joisey and surprise him, mind you I had a warning before because some woman online contacted me and claimed he was a lothario and gave me his real address, of course he said she was some nutcase and I should pay no attention, his jealous ex, and I bought it but some instinct made me keep the address.

To cut it short, I showed up at the address I had from him and it was in an industrial area, a big factory with a big admin complex, and I was told that I couldn't be admitted due to some safety regulations and that absolutely nobody would be living in the area - I didn't bother to walk over to the admin complex because by then I had an odd feeling, I went to the address the woman (who he claimed was his mad ex who now stalked him online) had given me (I wasted a fortune on cabs and train fares that day) and a highly pregnant woman with a toddler opened and when I asked for him, she wanted to know what my business is with her husband. I still don't know if it was the right thing to do, but the bunch of flowers that I had dragged all along for him, I handed them over to her and said "Flower delivery" and walked away, round the corner where I started sobbing like a baby. I was tempted to go back and tell her, but you can't do that to a pregnant woman, so I made my way back, spent the flight back to Europe crying... I couldn't even call him at the office number, I was honestly in shock. I'm still so glad that I didn't tell him of the surprise assignment and wanted to surprise him, only the surprise turned out a lot different than planned - slightly less romantic...

Back home I sent him an email, he said he would explain to me and then the email didn't work anymore and he had changed his screen name (AOL way back when...)

So yes, I might be a bit cynical when it comes to online personas, mind you I also met my current partner online (though on a computer board) and it took a while until we met - it wasn't planned to be romantic or that I would meet "him" it was a geek meeting and he was under the impression I was a guy as women don't like computers and such nonsense. What can I say? 8 years later....




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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 2:05:03 PM   
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Dang, and here I thought Lockit pointed out all sorts of intresting things.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 2:05:49 PM   
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You wasted your time. You FAILED to help.



Excuse me, why did she FAIL to help? Because she hammered home some truth?

You mean if you go to the doctor and he tells you what is going on with you and why something doesn't work, he also failed because he didn't tell you what you wanted to hear?

Sorry, but a guy who won't drive 2 hours to meet his prospective life partner (half his age) that's a bit of a failure for me, I thought petrol was so much cheaper on your side of the pond, shall we take up a collection so you can have a full tank or will you then come up with another excuse?

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 2:07:47 PM   
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I didn't bother to walk over to the admin complex because by then I had an odd feeling, I went to the address the woman (who he claimed was his mad ex who now stalked him online) had given me (I wasted a fortune on cabs and train fares that day) and a highly pregnant woman with a toddler opened and when I asked for him, she wanted to know what my business is with her husband. I still don't know if it was the right thing to do, but the bunch of flowers that I had dragged all along for him, I handed them over to her and said "Flower delivery" and walked away, round the corner where I started sobbing like a baby.


Kudos to you on how you handled a sucky situation. I think I might have blurted everything out.

This and the trouble that happened a few years back where a 40-something woman used her teen daughter's pictures to pretend to be a teenager online have me in the wanting to meet in person camp. Only in that situation, the 'teen' was talking to two men. One found out the other one's address and well.... got rid of his competition. Extremely tragic and completely pointless.


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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 2:09:01 PM   
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Thank you Aqua, I was too, I felt bad and I didn't make his uncle pay for my whole stay at the hotel the entire 4 days, thinking I could find someplace to stay for 2 days,  and what happened instead, was I ended up calling the cops, telling them I was stranded an they came and picked me up and took me to the preccint and found me a hotel that was cheap and had openeings, and I stayed at a dump where the hotel manager tried several times to get to have sex with me, and even came to my door at 11 oclock, but I pretended to be asleep and didn't answer. That night I made sure to lock not only the door lock but the chain that slides across the door.

It was a very harrowing experince and I was never so glad to arrive at home again. When I got down to the main area of the lobby, coming off the escalator an saw my parents I couldn't hug and kiss them fast enough, or hard enough.


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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

Oh.... Wow.... Jeez....

I'm so sorry you went through that sweetie!



< Message edited by Toppingfrmbottom -- 12/14/2010 2:21:49 PM >


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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 2:20:20 PM   
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Awww, that's a very sad story, but a good lesson for you, and others. I am glad you didn't tell the lady about her hubby, that would of been devastating to her, and I am glad you were not hurt more than just your heart for a bit.


I have met each and every one of my partners off the internet since becoming an adult, that's been 6 . And met many, many more people as friends But I don't mind meeting people off the net I am just not going to call them Master or dom or even bf, until I know them better, and now that I have a partner, I won't be traveling with out him, and people who're truely good people understand if I come see you, as friends, my honey pie comes too, in fact last time I was talking with someone in rosewell mexico, she never even mentioned me coming alone to visit, she said if you AND your daddy want to come visit I could show you the town.


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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze


and a highly pregnant woman with a toddler opened and when I asked for him, she wanted to know what my business is with her husband. I still don't know if it was the right thing to do, but the bunch of flowers that I had dragged all along for him, I handed them over to her and said "Flower delivery" and walked away, round the corner where I started sobbing like a baby. I was tempted to go back and tell her, but you can't do that to a pregnant woman, So yes, I might be a bit cynical when it comes to online personas, mind you I also met my current partner online (though on a computer board) and it took a while until we met - it wasn't planned to be romantic or that I would meet "him" it was a geek meeting and he was under the impression I was a guy as women don't like computers and such nonsense. What can I say? 8 years later....





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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 2:28:33 PM   
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I was seriously shell shocked, I expected everything but a pregnant woman and I just wanted to get away, I didn't even think about it. I thought a lot about it in the years that followed because that woman that he claimed to be his stalking ex, I am sure she was another victim and heaven knows how many more were around? I feel sorry for the wife being stranded with such an asshole, mind you that was 16 years ago, she possibly got rid of the bastard in the meantime...

I was seriously in shock got very ill because I was just throwing up for months after it happened, anything that reminded me of him and I started heaving... I guess if I would meet him now somewhere and recognize him, I could still lose my rag and do some serious violence, or at least kneel him in the nuts.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 2:48:37 PM   
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You mean she failed to do what you wanted her to do.  Instead she spoke her mind just like a lot of people on this thread.

Let Me ask you something, OP.  If I sit here and type out all kinds of wonderful suggestions that I've used when I've been in situations when My sub or a potential interest were separated by distance (thereby becoming the one who is really doing the Dominating) exactly what do the girl and I need the middle man (namely you) for?  It's the same thing as Me asking you to come and do My job for a day so I can have the money in My paycheck.  Do you want to do My work so I can receive the benefits?

I gave you the same advice as what I would do Myself in your case.  (That's something that you know, because it's in My profile, too, which you looked up.)  Not only would I be making the effort to meet the person, I would be going on My prior experience.  Yes, people are different, and different people respond to different things, but you know from your past what worked and what didn't.  Spelling that out for you, try what worked before and don't try those things that didn't.  Isn't that how you accomplish anything else?

The thing is, I highly doubt that you're going to have the girl in question come and read this thread.  What's probably happening is that you are attempting to get her to believe that you're Mr Domly Dom (because unlike here, she may not have enough experience to know the difference) and if she reads it, that illusion isn't going to hold up.  That's why you're here trying to get answers from those of us who do know what we're doing so you can pass whatever we tell you off as your own creation.  Same thing with the recommendation of having her to to a munch where she can meet people who are really doing this.  Any chance that you're worried that you might come up short?

The problem with the whole concept of this thread is that it isn't her that needs training.  It's you.  If you don't know what you're doing, you need to fess that up to this person and see if she might be willing to learn together.


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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 3:00:53 PM   
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my 2 cents...............it does make more sense to just meet, whether in the middle or you go to her area. I'm sure you have spent more than two hours straight talking on computer and/or phone before yes? ....plus people travel that far to go to events and such. My Dom lived in Alaska and i was in Maryland but we met in Ohio. I agree she should go to munches,(everyone is very friendly and no, nobody is going to pounce her) but far as you two meeting, sooner is better than later so don't waste bunch of time if you don't "click" in the end.
good luck

edited to add: If you do not have a half a day to drive and meet her for a meal and talk, how do you have time to train let alone to own her?

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 3:20:53 PM   
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Does your sub have a sister?

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 6:12:15 PM   
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My first Dom sent me out to learn, i had assignments to learn about different subjects, i was sent to online groups and chatrooms, given books to read, websites to explore, etc.. i have always been grateful to Him for being so wise.

And i don't really undrstand why she'd be afraid to meet, seems like that is important to see if compatable, before all of the other stuff.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 7:23:11 PM   
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FWIW-
I am sitting here after having just driven 2 hours- from work which I do EVERY FREAKING DAY.

If I had a hot young 19 year old virgin waiting for me I would get in my car and drive another 4 hours. Then ride my bike another 50 miles; and swim another 2. Maybe I would run the final 26 miles, but only if she had a sister.

OP, maybe you need to just figure out what it is you want a slave to do. Your profile mentions domestic duties and pleasure/ play, all of which is fine. Which should lead easily to ideas for what to do with her.

Maybe "Training" can just be helping her learn what you like, and don't. If you like flogging, teach her how you like to flog; if you like PB&J sandwiches with the crust trimmed off, teach her to make your lunch that way.
You aren't training her to be A slave; you are teaching her to be YOUR slave.


As far as the profile- the part about not wanting sex right away sends up red flags to me-Like Jeff pointed out, we men think with our cocks- I am suspicious of those who claim otherwise.



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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 7:38:56 PM   
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Thanks for the laughs.  The only thing that will make this thread better is if the virgin wanna-be sub stops in for a visit...

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 7:43:11 PM   
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let me take a stab at this:

46 yr old married or extremely naive about internet man who is cybertraining the coveted 19 yr old bisexual slut who turns out to be an 18 yr old horny little boy or 55 yr old bored housewife......

am I close? Are we taking bets yet?




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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 7:44:17 PM   
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Thanks for the laughs.  The only thing that will make this thread better is if the virgin wanna-be sub stops in for a visit...



It would certainly be interesting. I wonder how she feels about her teacher proclaiming her as a wanna-be repeatedly.

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am I close? Are we taking bets yet?


I'm giving 3 to 1 odds on the bored housewife.

< Message edited by AquaticSub -- 12/14/2010 7:45:46 PM >


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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 7:46:33 PM   
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You mean she failed to do what you wanted her to do.  Instead she spoke her mind just like a lot of people on this thread.



Lockit kinda tends to speak her mind.  But don't worry - after she accepts my collar, she will do exactly what I wish her to do, including lying to all sorts of strangers to protect their feelings.

Wish me luck - she might be a little resistant to being collared at first.


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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 7:54:08 PM   
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Steven! I think you have been getting a bit too much of that mountain air!

I love you anyway! Now, kneel and tell me how wonderful I am to be so understanding dear.


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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 8:23:53 PM   
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Okay.  More than just a little resistant.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 12/14/2010 8:30:17 PM   
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