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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 1/7/2011 9:56:29 PM   
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I have found that assigning a potential sub tasks that are mildly degrading and requiring a picture of the tasks to be an excellent tool. For example, I made my newest one masterbate in her office, which has a lot of glass to the other offices. She is a squirter and I had her take pictures of the masterbation and the squirt on the floor. Later, I delivered a small tupperware of cum to her and made her drink it in her office and provide a picture of that as well. Licking the floor in front of a toilet, pushing carrots into their asses, holding a sign that says "I am a usless cum slut" and the like will test their willingness to follow directions. Further, you can weed out the ones who are not real in the first place.


So if she's not your submissive in real life and refuses a task, she's not real? Seems those who decline your orders are the ones with common sense and in fact the most real.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 1/7/2011 11:00:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BurntKitty


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ORIGINAL: JohnDelahoya

I have found that assigning a potential sub tasks that are mildly degrading and requiring a picture of the tasks to be an excellent tool. For example, I made my newest one masterbate in her office, which has a lot of glass to the other offices. She is a squirter and I had her take pictures of the masterbation and the squirt on the floor. Later, I delivered a small tupperware of cum to her and made her drink it in her office and provide a picture of that as well. Licking the floor in front of a toilet, pushing carrots into their asses, holding a sign that says "I am a usless cum slut" and the like will test their willingness to follow directions. Further, you can weed out the ones who are not real in the first place.


So if she's not your submissive in real life and refuses a task, she's not real? Seems those who decline your orders are the ones with common sense and in fact the most real.


Gotta go with all the others here.

I would never provide such pictures to someone who doesn't own me. They could be used against me in some of the darkest of ways. It's putting the cart before the horse, IMHO.

If that's true, I can live happily never being real. But then I am made of butterscotch candy so I guess there really isn't any pressure.


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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 1/11/2011 7:09:40 PM   
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She need real people. Find some local BDSM or alternative clubs and societies in her area and make it her homework to go there and report back to you. Get her involved with others her own age. 

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 1/22/2011 5:06:24 AM   
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19 and a virgin?


I didn't get rid of mine till then.

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I was 20.  Wish I had waited longer, too.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 1/22/2011 5:07:48 AM   
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PLEASE do NOT send her to anyone or any club.  Keep this between you and her for now.   I beg you.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 1/22/2011 6:22:26 AM   
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The main issue for me remains that out of 57 posts so far (including mine), only two of them have seriously tackled my original request about "Designing Assignments and Tasks for a new sub/slave".


I think that is because most people think a "Master" who is advertising for a sub and states in his profile that he is going to "train and educate" her, should already know how to train her. Kinda like most people assume if you are behind the wheel of a car, you already know how to drive. Why should we do the work for you.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 1/22/2011 6:26:09 AM   
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PLEASE do NOT send her to anyone or any club.  Keep this between you and her for now.   I beg you.


Why would you advocate keeping her from a munch or BDSM club?

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 1/22/2011 6:31:25 AM   
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PLEASE do NOT send her to anyone or any club.  Keep this between you and her for now.   I beg you.


Why would you advocate keeping her from a munch or BDSM club?



Because then there is less chance she will meet someone who know what they are doing.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 1/22/2011 12:26:12 PM   
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lol... i was just surprised to see a new submissive actually advocating keeping another submissive in the dark.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 1/22/2011 12:29:40 PM   
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I'm a little confused by that too. Maybe there's sarcasm that the text left by the side of the road?

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 1/22/2011 1:00:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Farido


Now I need your help of how to take it a step further (still online and on the phone) in starting giving her Assignments and Tasks to do while incorporating the teaching element in between.


Your help and guidance will be greatly appreciated. Again my friends, it is about starting online Assignments and Tasks until I can say that she is really my obedient sub enough to meet in person. She is very sexual but still at the "careful stage" due to lack of knowledge and training. I'm talking here about ending with a full sub/dom 24/7  commitment.



Since you are seeking 24/7, then tasks which will help you in the future may be the way to go. For example.. do you want to travel? Have her learn a language which will be helpful to you should you get to fulfill that wish. My knowledge of Italian helped us enormously when we lived in Italy. Himself really appreciates a good cigar so I learned everything I could about cigars and on occasion know that I can pick out something really good in the ring size he likes with the flavor which is most pleasing to him.

You might want to task her with learning *you*.. favorite colors, foods, materials etc. Being open to her questions and honest with your answers will help her get to the level that you want her to attain. Tell her what you expect from her and see how she responds. That can help you determine if micromanagement helps her to thrive or whether a bit of autonomy to accomplish deeds will work better for her.. then you can take *that* knowledge and decide if it fits in with your style to see if you are truly compatible in enough areas to make it worth your while to put some time into a relationship with her. Do you want a stay at home wife? Have her take cooking or sewing classes. Want a dynamo in the work space.. have her pursue an MBA. It all depends on what *you* are seeking in your life.. then just make that happen.

I will reiterate what others have already suggested here for you to get out and meet her toes to toes to see if the chemistry you are feeling is still there offline. It may not be and rather than taking too long and putting time into a relationship which may be a dead end 10 seconds after you meet, you can concentrate on pursuing other relationships with people more compatible with you. You might also get lucky (and don't underestimate good luck!) and find this woman is the one who fits you and you will have her in your arms instead of the ideal of her in your head.

Also, realize that what she may desire in her 19 year old fantasy's may be nothing at all what trips her trigger at 30, 40 or 50. (It may be.. but growth and life experiences *often* change us from what we were when 19 and wide-eyed with wonder. Being seasoned well tends to change such flavors.)

Good luck.



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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 1/22/2011 1:49:24 PM   
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lol... i was just surprised to see a new submissive actually advocating keeping another submissive in the dark.


I took it as though she were the sub the OP is talking about.
Why else would she have such a vested interest in whether a stranger goes to a munch?


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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 1/23/2011 8:02:09 AM   
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Munches are so scary and stuff.. You have all those kinksters , dressed in nilla, and talking about different subjects, and socializing.... ;)

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 1/23/2011 8:25:45 AM   
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Munches are so scary and stuff.. You have all those kinksters , dressed in nilla, and talking about different subjects, and socializing.... ;)


No kidding!  With everyone in their civies, how are you supposed to know whose feet you have to kneel at, who can order you to suck cock under the table at the Chinese buffet, and who you can and cannot make eye contact with?  It's enough to drive a good sub crazy, having to treat E/everyone as social equals at those things...

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 1/23/2011 8:52:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: poise


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

lol... i was just surprised to see a new submissive actually advocating keeping another submissive in the dark.


I took it as though she were the sub the OP is talking about.
Why else would she have such a vested interest in whether a stranger goes to a munch?



I started too as well... until i realized that her other post used the word "I" a bit too well to be switching back and forth between first and third person.

quote:

I was 20. Wish I had waited longer, too.


quote:

PLEASE do NOT send her to anyone or any club. Keep this between you and her for now. I beg you.



Not to mention the OP stated the girl in question is 19, and a virgin. newyorknewbie admitted to being 20 when she lost her virginity.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 1/23/2011 8:59:12 AM   
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Or maybe......just maybe, she is the sub in the OP, and she got tired of all this online stuff, and on
her birthday, which just happened to be January 21st, she celebrates by attending a munch and at
that munch she met a wonderful dominant man who inspired her to give him her virginity, but there
was no happy ever after that she had always dreamed of?

It could happen!



Except that she is 30. There goes my whole theory!

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 1/23/2011 9:15:56 AM   
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She's a virgin,  but very sexual?    Ummm, ok.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 1/24/2011 8:14:09 AM   
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Munches are so scary and stuff.. You have all those kinksters , dressed in nilla, and talking about different subjects, and socializing.... ;)

Good Heavens, yes!  The terrifying thought of actually <gasp> going out to dinner.......... at a restaurant......... with other people.  Someone might actually look in your direction or even speak to you.

I just don't know how BDSM survived without the internet and people actually had to leave the safety of their house.


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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 1/24/2011 10:07:28 AM   
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Or maybe......just maybe, she is the sub in the OP, and she got tired of all this online stuff, and on
her birthday, which just happened to be January 21st, she celebrates by attending a munch and at
that munch she met a wonderful dominant man who inspired her to give him her virginity, but there
was no happy ever after that she had always dreamed of?

It could happen!



Except that she is 30. There goes my whole theory!


LOL... sometimes its nice thinking the best of people.

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RE: Masters please help. Training fresh young sub-wannabe - 1/31/2011 1:03:09 PM   
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and the occasional viewing of movies without a single fucking explosion.


I think I might have just found a 2nd "hard limit" :P

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