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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/4/2011 6:07:58 AM

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Some of us are a bit too famous to be seen in public with you perverted plebeians though, VC.

What might you suggest then, huh!?

That's your problem.

I was just responding to the guy who thinks women just sit by the computer all day waiting for mail.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/4/2011 8:39:32 AM

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Some of us are a bit too famous to be seen in public with you perverted plebeians though, VC.

What might you suggest then, huh!?

That's your problem.

I was just responding to the guy who thinks women just sit by the computer all day waiting for mail.

But... but... who gave them permission to leave the house?

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/4/2011 9:35:11 AM

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You know...I wonder if, given that the OP is a Pro, the title might be "Lacking of PAYING male slaves". Pretty much in all of the lifestyle events I have been to, the males outnumber the females by a significant number...and when you start categorizing it into subs and Dommes, it goes even further. My Lady is pretty consistently the only self-identified female Dominant at events like our local munches and there are almost always at least two and sometimes as many as five or ten unattached male submissives.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/4/2011 9:52:19 AM

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A testimonial from her site:

"No words can describe the pleasure of reading that i had pleased My Trainer, but this feeling was multiplied by a thousand when She wrote that i would be getting an audio .wav file. To hear Her sultry voice letting me know that "I own you, you are mine" left this slave so happy, that nothing could spoil the good mood."

So maybe it ought to be 'Lack of men who will be overjoyed at the thought of an audio .wav file saying they are owned, which is likely to also have been sent to many other men'.

I can see how there might not be many of those ones around...

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/4/2011 10:49:16 AM

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Hi
Are there as many male subs as everyone says? It is said that there are many more male slaves compared to the number of Mistresses but does that theory take into consideration how many of those male subs are "bedroom only slaves" or switches? Just how many male subs out there do you think are real submissives who love obeying and submitting to a Mistress? (Here's hoping they do exist and we can find them.)

Hi back,
its not a lack of male subs
Its just the (Mistress) beeing picky about who deserve to bee their subs or not.
by all means, if you want anyone why can`t you contact him/her, it dose not take anything from you beeing a mistress.
another reason:
I have read alot of females profiles
& they are boring & too damn long, with alot of abusive pictures & words. (not all of them but about 70 %).
do you actually think by posting the (SundayTimes) on your profile people going to read the hell out of it & contact you after. or by putting alot of (Fuck, Shit, No that) is taking the sub to slowly think before contacting you,
If you put like 7000 rule about who contact you & who dose not.
you going to end up with a lack of subs
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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/4/2011 1:39:43 PM

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Well that was tacky, but probably needed to be said.

Also not everyone lives in a big city where there are near by munch parties.... For that matter not everyone is that open about this sort of thing. From the little I have seen, those are geared for those who like to play.

Not-necessarily what the OP was seeking.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/4/2011 2:12:15 PM

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Well that was tacky, but probably needed to be said.

Also not everyone lives in a big city where there are near by munch parties.... For that matter not everyone is that open about this sort of thing. From the little I have seen, those are geared for those who like to play.

Not-necessarily what the OP was seeking.

I'm curious if you took a moment to read the OP's profile, click on the link in her sig line or read Post #24 on this thread.

While the original post on this thread made no mention of play, given the fact that the OP identifies as an "Assistant Mistress" at the Academy and bearing in mind the aforementioned signature link, I find it doubtful she's not looking for play.

I would tend to agree, though, that attending a munch might not be the place the OP expects to find what she references in her original post. Of course, I could be wrong, but as she hasn't returned to respond to any replies given on this thread, we're left to speculation for now.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/4/2011 2:12:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: AcademyForSlaves

Hi

Are there as many male subs as everyone says? It is said that there are many more male slaves compared to the number of Mistresses but does that theory take into consideration how many of those male subs are "bedroom only slaves" or switches? Just how many male subs out there do you think are real submissives who love obeying and submitting to a Mistress? (Here's hoping they do exist and we can find them.)

I believe I've said this before: neither camp is heavily populated. On the surface, it appears there are many, and to a certain degree it's true; there are many who don the self-applied titles, at least. Examine the watersheds well enough and you start to see how many facades (intentional or not) there are. The YMMV caveat always applies, of course; authenticity where this subject is concerned is a soft science, but not entirely impossible to pin down if you have a rational head on your shoulders.

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If you put like 7000 rules about who contacts you & who does not, you're going to end up with a lack of subs.

That's often the point, actually. If a little bit of reading and comprehending what's said by the object of your passing desire turns you off, all those "annoying lines of text" are serving their purpose.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/4/2011 2:15:05 PM

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If you think there is a lack of male slaves, just lower the prices on your scam website.

Excuse me....and what are you referring to? I don't have a web site.

I think he was replying to the original poster who seems to be advertising for her website

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/4/2011 4:02:36 PM

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A few comments because I just feel pulled to do it.

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That's your problem.

Thank you, thank you, thank you! I know you said it in jest but the above really is the truth about it when folks start the debating over the public/private issue. Some folks legitimately can't go to a munch (disability, current child custody case, etc). For a number of folks, it's that they won't. That's personal preference, fear, and other issues. Either of which is all well and good, but if it's your choice own it and accept the responsibility for it.

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ORIGINAL: OttersSwim
My Lady is pretty consistently the only self-identified female Dominant at events like our local munches and there are almost always at least two and sometimes as many as five or ten unattached male submissives.

This is My experience as well. This past Saturday, I was at two different munch groups. Both were about forty people. At the first, I was the only one in attendance that identified as a female Dominant. At the second, I was one of three.

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Hi back,
its not a lack of male subs
Its just the (Mistress) beeing picky about who deserve to bee their subs or not.
by all means, if you want anyone why can`t you contact him/her, it dose not take anything from you beeing a mistress.
another reason:
I have read alot of females profiles
& they are boring & too damn long, with alot of abusive pictures & words. (not all of them but about 70 %).
do you actually think by posting the (SundayTimes) on your profile people going to read the hell out of it & contact you after. or by putting alot of (Fuck, Shit, No that) is taking the sub to slowly think before contacting you,
If you put like 7000 rule about who contact you & who dose not.
you going to end up with a lack of subs
M

I recently revamped My profile. Best thing I ever did on this site. Yes, it's long and yes, I'm very specific about who contacts Me. I don't find it to be abusive (there is no cursing in My profile, but I do it from time to time on the boards) but there certainly are some "no" statements in there. I can promise you that I have no lack of subs or play partners. I'll have trouble scheduling everything that I want to do kink-wise this month.

Everybody, no matter what gender or role, should be selective about who they put in their life. I honestly believe that folks should be picky. If spending five to ten minutes reading a profile bores someone, I'd hate to see what the attention span would be like if we weren't talking about kink.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/4/2011 4:21:40 PM

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I recently revamped My profile. Best thing I ever did on this site. Yes, it's long and yes, I'm very specific about who contacts Me. I don't find it to be abusive (there is no cursing in My profile, but I do it from time to time on the boards) but there certainly are some "no" statements in there. I can promise you that I have no lack of subs or play partners. I'll have trouble scheduling everything that I want to do kink-wise this month.

Everybody, no matter what gender or role, should be selective about who they put in their life. I honestly believe that folks should be picky. If spending five to ten minutes reading a profile bores someone, I'd hate to see what the attention span would be like if we weren't talking about kink.

Kind of agreeing this five to ten minutes are not that much to know a person,
but not the (Sunday Times) & people bitching about what this one wrote to them & what did this say to them .... its boring
& if i want to be bored.....simply turn on the TV & watch what Gaddafi say all day long for free.
some sites i know give the member max 3000 letters only.
even 3000 letter can be sometimes boring.... if anyone use it in a boring way
M

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/4/2011 4:27:20 PM

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I'm not responding to anyone specifically, but to the thread in general. I think a lot of people have already covered a lot of the information I would normally cover in this sort of a commentary, but I still felt inclined to comment.

I've been to a number of munches and parties over the years where I've found the ratio of women to men to be overwhelmingly more men than women. In the few organizations I've joined over the years where women basically had the control of the group (or were the main emphasis at least), that ratio really dropped a lot, especially when gatherings were designed so any males had to actually be invited by the women attending.

For me, I've always known that a submissive male has a much harder time finding a dominant woman than the other way around. The numbers are absurd at times. Having said that, I also know (or seriously suspect) that the number of sincere submissive males is pretty close to the number of sincere female dominants. The problem is the overwhelming number of guys who are trying to "score", get some kind of "action" or just think they're a lot more submissive than they really are. Because they ALWAYS show up, they outnumber practically any women who show up and make any sincere submissive almost irrelevant because most (not all) sincere submissives aren't going to be leg humping like so many of the other males who do show up, so their chances of even making a connection are pretty limited.

But that doesn't mean they can't. It just means it's that much more difficult. And because of all of the game players that do show up, it makes it that much harder, and more frustrating, for any sincere dominant looking to find a potential partner, unless she's just there to have a good time.

I've spent a large number of years looking for someone myself, and to be honest, my discouragement in the search has pretty much jaded me at the whole experience, to the point where I have pretty much taken myself out of the search. As I don't date on a vanilla basis, I've moved away from even trying anymore and instead prefer to just have conversations with people into the scene and leave it at that. One day, I'll probably look for someone again, but it's a much different animal these days than it used to be.

But going back to the OP, I think most people realize she's looking mainly for professional contacts, or at least men who are willing to put forth money as a part of the search. That, to me, is why she's not finding what she's looking for, because when you do that sort of thing, you're going to find that sort of thing, and that audience is so much different than the one she actually claimed to be looking for. But that's her deal, and I really don't have any negative comments to put forth about that. I just kind of realize why she's not going to find what she's seeking, and my spidey senses start to go up when I start to realize that it's somewhat suspicious that she's been doing this for some time and hasn't figured out what is so obvious to so many other people.

But what do I know? I'm just a friendly muppet.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/4/2011 4:37:21 PM

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I have no problem finding male folk who call themselves subs/slaves. Many of them are people who's idea of how they're supposed to behave doesn't line up with what I consider to be submissive/slave behaviour.That's the only problem I've encountered so far. Just means they aren't the right sub for me, and I'm not the right Domme for them.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/4/2011 9:18:20 PM

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AcademyForSlaves? Really? Once they're trained, what happens? Do you send them forth into the world to find their own M/Ds? Do you find them the One? I really want to know, this has me wondering exactly how this Academy thingie works.

I was wondering the same thing

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/5/2011 12:02:26 AM

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AcademyForSlaves,

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Are there as many male subs as everyone says? It is said that there are many more male slaves compared to the number of Mistresses, but does that theory take into consideration how many of those male subs are "bedroom only slaves" or switches? Just how many male subs out there do you think are real submissives who love obeying and submitting to a Mistress? (Here's hoping they do exist and we can find them.)

My main thought after reading the OP is... who defines what a submissive, slave, bedroom-only slave, and switch is? Each person will have their own definition, though I suppose there might be some consensus over the term "bedroom only". At any rate, this OP makes it seem one s-type is better or more authentic than another, which is ridiculous. People have different tastes and preferences for interaction, and this applies equally to dominants and submissives. Someone who isn't the ideal submissive for you may well be exactly what someone else is looking for.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/5/2011 7:55:52 AM

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What LP said above!!

If you find the profile boring, just take it as a sign that you would not be interested in this person. Consider it has saved you the wasted time of contacting her, even if you liked her picture. Do not whine.

The purpose of the profile is to weed out those whose attention span is short, and whose life situation is not compatible.

Others are not here for your entertainment. (even if there are many who do fit the 'slinky' role quite well.)

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Kind of agreeing this five to ten minutes are not that much to know a person,
but not the (Sunday Times) & people bitching about what this one wrote to them & what did this say to them .... its boring
& if i want to be bored.....simply turn on the TV & watch what Gaddafi say all day long for free.
some sites i know give the member max 3000 letters only.
even 3000 letter can be sometimes boring.... if anyone use it in a boring way
M

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/5/2011 8:26:58 AM

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What LP said above!!

If you find the profile boring, just take it as a sign that you would not be interested in this person. Consider it has saved you the wasted time of contacting her, even if you liked her picture. Do not whine.

The purpose of the profile is to weed out those whose attention span is short, and whose life situation is not compatible.

Others are not here for your entertainment. (even if there are many who do fit the 'slinky' role quite well.)

thank you for proving my point about your own profile which is boring & to damn long.
the OP was whining about the lack of male subs i am not.
The purpose of the profile is that after i read it i should know what you like & dislike, what you do in your own free time,
Its called in other networks more about me.
not telling you or other how to write your profile its yours .... but dont post a damn long one & whine about lack of readers,
Some of the profiles here (not all of them) you read it till the end just by the way that he / she writed the profile,
Some of them bore the Hell out of me in the first paragraph....

Some of the users in this network english is not their mother tounge dont make the lerning process much harder by posting a long damn profile
My personal opnion: if i just saw a long profile i move on in a second .... without even the think of reading it...
but hey that is just me
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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/5/2011 10:06:53 AM

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The purpose of the profile is that after i read it i should know what you like & dislike, what you do in your own free time,

not telling you or other how to write your profile its yours .... but dont post a damn long one & whine about lack of readers,

Your two statements that I left in the quote would tend to contradict each other. However, that aside ...

I will for damn sure complain that people don't read our profile. The first line states to read the full profile before messaging - if someone messages and has clearly not read the profile - I'm not going to be happy. Holly and I have edited and re-edited that profile as things happen, things change, and we discover more things that we like/dislike. If someone can't be bothered to read the profile to get to know us at least a little bit before messaging, then they are NOT compatable with us. I have problems with someone who is so desperate to serve anyone that they don't care who it is or anything about them as a person.

However, I don't have a problem with those who decide not to read the profile and don't message us ... makes it easier on both sides. I wouldn't dream of complaining that no one messages ... it would be a nice change lol. Anyway, I know how to message other people - if I'm interested in someone, I'll let him know.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/5/2011 10:37:02 AM

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ashjor911,

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Some of the users in this network english is not their mother tounge dont make the lerning process much harder by posting a long damn profile
My personal opnion: if i just saw a long profile i move on in a second .... without even the think of reading it...
but hey that is just me

This is why there are different strokes for different folks. Translation: what you like is not what others may like. Myself, I enjoy people who are wordsmiths and who communicate well in the written word. A short profile may get my attention if the ideas presented capture me. However, generally, as long as a profile is well written, I prefer them to be on the longer side. This gives me a chance to see how a person develops thoughts, uses cadences and timing, develops humor and contrast, and uses their writing style to show multiple glimpses of their personality. Thus, a longer profile is more likely to get my attention than a shorter one, especailly if the text isn't full of negativity and BDSM-only discussion, and is instead full of tidbits that share some breadth about the person. I consider a profile the first part of flirting and, as such, it is wordsex. Good wordsex, like sex itself, has variety, ebbs and flows, timing, a nice climax, and a denouement (after ending and resolution, or an endearing, dangling afterthought). Quantity isn't always necessary, but quantity with quality, as far as I'm concerned, is a plus because I'm interested to see how a person's mind works. When there is substance and variety in a profile, it gives me the opportunity to assess potential compatibility and it gives me the ability to focus on areas of mutual interest when I reply. I find it difficult to reply in my preferred style (which is a personal way specific to an individual) when a profile has little information about the person.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/5/2011 10:45:19 AM

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The purpose of the profile is that after i read it i should know what you like & dislike, what you do in your own free time,
Its called in other networks more about me.
not telling you or other how to write your profile its yours .... but dont post a damn long one & whine about lack of readers,

Well, ashjor, after a quick glace at your profile, I would have to say the impression given is one of short, quick anger and an attitude that leads me to believe you have more than a few issues with both women and CollarMe. I always find it interesting to see how people change over time, in regards to their profile and journal entries, here on CM.

Is that what you wanted to portray with your whiny and too damn short profile and use of photos that appear to not be yours but something pinched from a porn site?

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Some of the users in this network english is not their mother tounge dont make the lerning process much harder by posting a long damn profile

This is true, but that doesn't negate the use of spell check in English...which might be helpful, in your case...if you choose to write your profile in a language that isn't your "mother tongue".

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