maybemaybenot
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ORIGINAL: joether
Most of you folks dont know this, but I'm pretty sure popeye and maybemaybenot *DO* (which should show the level of honesty on display here for conservatives). 'The Boston Herald' is sort of like the old 'World Weekly News' for the greater Boston, MA Region. Its a tabloid with a sprinkle of 'journalism' mixed in. Very often the information presented is incomplete and/or not factually correct. It should be no surprise to the educated types that folks that read 'The Boston Herald' really do watch FOX News for their information. That should help most of you in understanding popeye's 'source'.
Mass Health is a better plan then a US Citizen will find in the other 49 states place US territories. About 98% of the citizens are covered under one plan or another, with THE PEOPLE, administering it (not some greedy corporation). Costing the state a whopping 1% of its total budget, its hardly 'a drain on resources'. There are facts, and then there's political agenda. When have popeye or maybemaybenot NOT shown a conservative agenda when attacking something that REALLY is good for most Americans?
Yes, there is waste. Unfortunately, 'waste' in goverment is subjective. What one person calls waste is another's 'good use of goverment funds'. Often times, the waste I've heard told by conservatives regarding Mass Health, has turned up to be a big stretch of the paranoid mind. If you want to debate 'waste' in the health industry, then lets agree to what the defination of 'waste'. That way, we can debate on information knowing what would be defined as 'waste' and what is simply 'political agenda'. Since to anyone watching the nation's politics for the past few years know: conservatives dont want health care for US Citizens. Or more exactly, conservatives dont like US Citizens who F-up in life or due to circumstances get F-up, to have access to quality health care. Not surprisingly, these are also the sort of people that didn't want to help Haiti, Japan, or even New Orleans after Katrina. Bottom line: this group of conservatives, want and crave to see other US Citizens suffering in life.
Rather then go to the 'high journalistic quality' of the Boston Herald, why didn't the person who believed waste was taking place take it to their representative? That was the reason for Mass Health's creation: to give quality care to Mass residents, and make sure NO ONE slipped between the cracks. The overhead for Mass Health is pretty damn low compared to corporations. Likewise, the common US Citizens is more in control of their health care through Mass Health then a coporate administrator that doesnt know them nor care about their existance. And if Mass Health doesn't cover it, one of two things can happen:
A) The person gets health coverage through a private health company that will offer the medical issue, and pays for it.
B) They contact their representative and see's if an exception can be made. As unbelievable as it will sound to conservatives: liberal really ARE more compassionate towards their fellow humans/citizens. They generally have a good idea what suffering is like, and would rather others not go through with it (particularly children).
Well, well, well... enter my friend Joether. Complete with his usual personal insults. Nice to see you again Joe.
I won't bother to address much of your post, except for this :
I read my local paper. And anythng else I happen across that day. Be it the Globe, the Herald, WSJ, NYT.
You can throw all the accolades you want on Romneycare. The Governor of this state has made it one of his primary focus's to fix it, cuz it's broken. I happen to listen to him once a month on a talk show he does. He has repeatedly said that when Romneycare was passed they did it without thinking of the cost, all they wanted was to make sure everyone was covered and had no forward thinking to contain costs. No, there's no link to it, but I suggest you tune in when he is on the radio, talking to the citizens anserring their questions.
Interesting you chose to " argue " a point I conceded that the State plan is only going up 2%, but ignore that the private insurances are the highest in the nation, rising faster than any other state the rates are up by 30% and rising and that at this rate the state cannot maintain the plan.
And... emm, Joe ? Where did I get that information ? Well if you scroll back I got it from the Massachusetts Government webiste. So you can sit here and argue your nonsense, but the Commonwealth of Massachusetts acknowledges the problems. Funny you cannot.
mbmbn
PS: as I have repeatedly told you I am a Libertarian NOT a conservative.
< Message edited by maybemaybenot -- 3/30/2011 3:43:59 PM >
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