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tazzygirl -> RE: Why does the GOP want granny to have to eat dogfood? Save granny! (4/14/2011 5:15:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Maybe the government should control all our money, seeing how we are too stupid... [8|]

Actually, I think its rml who keeps bragging about how far up the market is, so that statement isnt exactly factual, the markets go up and down and even the government seems to be headed for a crash and burn of its own, hoard aluminum... [;)]

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how many of them would be destitute now after the market crash?



And who caused the last crash? No one said they should control all the money. However, after the Depression, which is when Medicare and SS came to be, it makes sense, at least to me, that this generation be protected... after all, if they lose it all in a crash today, they dont have a tomorrow to make it up.




Sanity -> RE: Why does the GOP want granny to have to eat dogfood? Save granny! (4/14/2011 5:34:28 PM)


I love you Lucy, dont ever change!

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
You even lie like a politician
no one has outlawed fox news here, and no one has declared otherwise
you know damn well none of that is a factual statement in any way whatsoever





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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr/fox-news-will-not-be-moving-into-canada-after-all_b_829473.html
As America's middle class battles for its survival on the Wisconsin barricades -- against various Koch Oil surrogates and the corporate toadies at Fox News -- fans of enlightenment, democracy and justice can take comfort from a significant victory north of Wisconsin border. Fox News will not be moving into Canada after all! The reason: Canada regulators today announced they would reject efforts by Canada's right wing Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, to repeal a law that forbids lying on broadcast news.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2011/02/25/crtc-false-news.html
The CRTC has withdrawn a controversial proposal that would have given TV and radio stations more leeway to broadcast false or misleading news.


Im dancing a little jig right now. FUCK Murdoch and his slime, FUCK Harper and his desire to pass on lies n bullshit , ohhhh gleeeee is coursing thru me.
Oh happy days






tazzygirl -> RE: Why does the GOP want granny to have to eat dogfood? Save granny! (4/14/2011 5:36:11 PM)

I think the differnec is that Fox News is broadcasted in Canada, they just arent allowed to broadcast from Canada.




Lucylastic -> RE: Why does the GOP want granny to have to eat dogfood? Save granny! (4/14/2011 5:47:03 PM)

repeal a law that forbids lying on broadcast news.  NOT against fox news
it was discussed in two separate threads, you know damn well it is not fox news and they have not been outlawed
and we get fox news here in canada we are  NOT outlawing fox news, but those of its ilk those who lie.
and you know that, but still lie,
I amended my comment about two days after that was posted, it went on for some time, but you know that, nice try but only a whoopee cushion
of course such fine points just fly over your head




Sanity -> RE: Why does the GOP want granny to have to eat dogfood? Save granny! (4/14/2011 6:04:47 PM)


So that OP was just more of your bullshit, color me shocked. Still, I was correct in my initial assertion on this thread, "In Canada theyve outlawed Fox News according to a few of the free speech hating leftists who post here"

I even linked to the proof, you cant backpedal fast enough to get out of this one. [:D]

Where did you post your correction because I didnt see it, and I certainly never saw where you changed your mind and welcomed free speech unconditionally - and that was the whole point. Leftists seek to crush liberty, because their ideology dictates that they must.

Why? For one thing, leftists cannot tolerate dissent because leftists lose every argument, every time.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

repeal a law that forbids lying on broadcast news.  NOT against fox news
it was discussed in two separate threads, you know damn well it is not fox news and they have not been outlawed
and we get fox news here in canada we are  NOT outlawing fox news, but those of its ilk those who lie.
and you know that, but still lie,
I amended my comment about two days after that was posted, it went on for some time, but you know that, nice try but only a whoopee cushion
of course such fine points just fly over your head





Lucylastic -> RE: Why does the GOP want granny to have to eat dogfood? Save granny! (4/14/2011 6:53:07 PM)

Then I suggest you find another description, and use my exact words then, because your wording is unnacceptable
Ill own my words, Im not backpeddling.
I wont accept your version..... your tunnel vison has twisted it to suit your own ends,
Yes Im glad the govment has ruled  news media cannot lie to us on purpose, For the prime ministers ugly intended actions and more.
Regarding owning my words its a shame you cant be honest enough to own yours.
If liberty is based on lies , is it liberty?
Im not looking up anything for you, but I appreciate you spending all that time on me
gives me a warm fuzzie
oh hang on  no it wasnt





TheHeretic -> RE: Why does the GOP want granny to have to eat dogfood? Save granny! (4/14/2011 6:56:59 PM)

OP:
Just a quick question for you, Mari, if you are still around (though I suspect you just dropped a turd in the punchbowl and left). If this is level of the discussion 19 months before the election, what are you going to have left to accuse the GOP of when it comes down to the wire?




Marini -> RE: Why does the GOP want granny to have to eat dogfood? Save granny! (4/14/2011 7:42:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

OP:
Just a quick question for you, Mari, if you are still around (though I suspect you just dropped a turd in the punchbowl and left). If this is level of the discussion 19 months before the election, what are you going to have left to accuse the GOP of when it comes down to the wire?


turd in the punchbowl?
lions and tigers and bears, oh my!

Rich, we still have 19 more months to go?
Both sides and the Moderates and Independents, can go much lower than this.

As usual, how low can they go?

Seriously, if we are in such dire straits that we must attempt to penalize and put our elderly on the chopping block, than this country is on it's knees and in terrible, terrible shape.

What I want to know, and will probably start a separate thread on this, is:
WHY THE HELL IS AMERICA IN SUCH FUCKING TERRIBLE SHAPE????
Where the hell did the fucking money go?
Is it because of the fucking 10 years in Iraq?

Unbridled corporate greed, outsourcing our damn country? evil soulless corporate bastards, bailing out wall street, and propping up the banks, and kicking the Middle class straight up in the ass, now its time to take down the elderly?

We are in debt to China,to China, to China to China, to China!!!!

This is a fucking joke right? The USA in debt to China?

WHY IS THE WORLD'S SUPERPOWER with all these damn know it all, smart assed MBA having,educated economic financial geniuses, in the fucking WONDERFUL global economy in debt to fucking CHINA in 2011?


What the hell has happened to this country, and why? thats what I want to know.
The mark of insanity is to keep doing the same thing and expect different results.
What the hell are we doing as a country, besides taking from the poor and elderly to ensure we won't continue to remain in terrible shape???


tag you are it




kdsub -> RE: Why does the GOP want granny to have to eat dogfood? Save granny! (4/14/2011 8:57:59 PM)

Thanks for the links all

Lord help us...I read this

The premium-support model would operate similar to the way the Medicare prescription-drug benefit program
works today
.

In my opinion no government program in my lifetime is as ill-conceived as the prescription drug program. It is full of corruption…collusion for drug prices…expensive for benefits received.

It takes drug welfare from the needy and hands it over in the fistfuls to insurance companies.

Find me anyone who is really sick and likes it… this is a challenge.

If this goes through it will be a disaster.

Butch




pahunkboy -> RE: Why does the GOP want granny to have to eat dogfood? Save granny! (4/14/2011 9:05:18 PM)

Marini,   I mentioned a few times that they were stealing  retirements.  


Homes, jobs and retirements.   




tazzygirl -> RE: Why does the GOP want granny to have to eat dogfood? Save granny! (4/14/2011 9:06:49 PM)

whoa Babe. I do hope that was intended for Sanity.




pahunkboy -> RE: Why does the GOP want granny to have to eat dogfood? Save granny! (4/14/2011 9:10:10 PM)

FR on FOX,

since when does ANYONE in government,  fortune 500,  Wall street- and politics tell the truth?

I must have missed it when I blinked.







Marini -> RE: Why does the GOP want granny to have to eat dogfood? Save granny! (4/14/2011 9:12:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Thanks for the links all

Lord help us...I read this

The premium-support model would operate similar to the way the Medicare prescription-drug benefit program
works today
.

In my opinion no government program in my lifetime is as ill-conceived as the prescription drug program. It is full of corruption…collusion for drug prices…expensive for benefits received.

It takes drug welfare from the needy and hands it over in the fistfuls to insurance companies.

Find me anyone who is really sick and likes it… this is a challenge.

If this goes through it will be a disaster.

Butch


If our country is this fucking bad off, and we need to make these sort of drastic changes specifically to Medicare, many people will be taking it to the streets.
I live near D.C. and I look forward to attending many great protest marches.

Do people even see what is going on these days?
They are telling us, they need to do this to "fix the problem"?
What the fuck?
Seriously, and I do mean this, "What the fuck is going on in our country?"




Marini -> RE: Why does the GOP want granny to have to eat dogfood? Save granny! (4/14/2011 9:15:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Marini,   I mentioned a few times that they were stealing  retirements.  

Homes, jobs and retirements.   


hunky, can you believe this shit? we are in debt to CHINA????? lol
how is our wonderful fucking global economy working for us?
We are supposed to want to "make" all these fucking sacrifices and for what?
We don't even have national health care!

I am glad for one thing, a lot of the clueless people are going to start waking the fuck up in the near future.

to steal your line: HELLO?




pahunkboy -> RE: Why does the GOP want granny to have to eat dogfood? Save granny! (4/14/2011 9:15:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Marini


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Thanks for the links all

Lord help us...I read this

The premium-support model would operate similar to the way the Medicare prescription-drug benefit program
works today
.

In my opinion no government program in my lifetime is as ill-conceived as the prescription drug program. It is full of corruption…collusion for drug prices…expensive for benefits received.

It takes drug welfare from the needy and hands it over in the fistfuls to insurance companies.

Find me anyone who is really sick and likes it… this is a challenge.

If this goes through it will be a disaster.

Butch


If our country is this fucking bad off, and we need to make these sort of drastic changes specifically to Medicare, many people will be taking it to the streets.
I live near D.C. and I look forward to attending many great protest marches.

Do people even see what is going on these days?
They are telling us, they need to do this to "fix the problem"?
What the fuck?
Seriously, and I do mean this, "What the fuck is going on in our country?"


Tell me about the corruption.  They are being taken before the PA insurance commission.




kdsub -> RE: Why does the GOP want granny to have to eat dogfood? Save granny! (4/14/2011 9:18:41 PM)

It's simple...we have to decide... Are we going to continue to be the world policeman and butt into other countries affairs...or... Are we going to keep a strong local national defense, develop home grown alternate fuel sources, and let the rest of the world take care of themselves...It is the only way we can have our cake and eat it too.

Butch




Lucylastic -> RE: Why does the GOP want granny to have to eat dogfood? Save granny! (4/14/2011 9:20:50 PM)

Tazzy, oh I missed that hon, yep, apologies:) not for you at all




pahunkboy -> RE: Why does the GOP want granny to have to eat dogfood? Save granny! (4/14/2011 9:21:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Marini


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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Marini,   I mentioned a few times that they were stealing  retirements.  

Homes, jobs and retirements.   


hunky, can you believe this shit? we are in debt to CHINA????? lol
how is our wonderful fucking global economy working for us?
We are supposed to want to "make" all these fucking sacrifices and for what?
We don't even have national health care!

to steal your line: HELLO?


I am not in favor of Austerity.   

2008 was the key time to fix it- tho it was set into motion in 2003....   TARP should have never been passed....  they warned of martial law...if it did not pass.

the debt can never ever be paid- that is the whole point... a pound of flesh.  

Fraudulent debt does not have to be repaid--  and  much of this debt IS.

China is a scape goat in this whole mess... not entirely innocent but not the boogie man they make it sound like.  We print fiat money and buy real oil, and goods with printed money-  that has nothing to back it up- and consider that we own 8000 tons of gold in Fort Knox.   That does not sound broke to me.




Marini -> RE: Why does the GOP want granny to have to eat dogfood? Save granny! (4/14/2011 9:24:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

It's simple...we have to decide... Are we going to continue to be the world policeman and butt into other countries affairs...or... Are we going to keep a strong local national defense, develop home grown alternate fuel sources, and let the rest of the world take care of themselves...It is the only way we can have our cake and eat it too.Butch


[sm=applause.gif]

Butch, one of the issues that offends me the most is, how often do you hear these bitch politicians chat about what you just wrote?
Why must our "economic mess" be fixed from taking money from the elderly or raising taxes?
They must think we are too stupid to realize that we spend zillions of dollars all over this world.


We can't even afford to secure our own borders!
this is a joke!
We are in 3 wars, and can't secure our own borders.
Soon I will doubt our ability to defend THIS country!!!




Lucylastic -> RE: Why does the GOP want granny to have to eat dogfood? Save granny! (4/14/2011 9:33:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

It's simple...we have to decide... Are we going to continue to be the world policeman and butt into other countries affairs...or... Are we going to keep a strong local national defense, develop home grown alternate fuel sources, and let the rest of the world take care of themselves...It is the only way we can have our cake and eat it too.

Butch

Theres too much money to be made poking ones nose in other countries
I notice you dont mention the well being of your own people
considering the topic, may I ask why you decide to equate it with defense




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