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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

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ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer
"Breaking a slave" is an effective psychological technique that is actually related to the "violent heirarchical initiation" theme seen in youth gangs as well as chimpanzee troops.  It is basic primate psychology to reinforce a social heirarchy, to effectively "hardwire" the behavioral submission response in the initiate to the dominant members of the troop. 

I love a good beating as much if not more than the next, but I am certainly thankful that none of the Dominants that I have ever been involved with have subscribed to this philosophy. "Some" of us have our hardwiring firmly in place without having to be "broken" and we do what we do because it's what we find to be fulfilling and have given enough thought to it to make it our life's choice. Should a Dominant ever wish to experiment with my submission in such a way it would certainly be dealbreaker.

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ORIGINAL: KittenWithaTwist


*chuckles* He didn't turn abusive. Thanks though-I realize I may have put out the wrong words. We've done some harsh play and sometimes it goes too far before I realize it. It isn't abuse, it's just the point where I can handle it blurs. If that makes sense. Also, please stop saying my "Master". He's my partner. If you like, you may call him my "Top" or just "A" (as that's what his name begins with). It's a little frustrating. Thanks.

As for the breaking...the term breaking, in my mind, implies abuse. It brings to my mind a host of images-a circus animal being repeatedly hit with an electric cattle prod, a dog being beaten with a bat until it cries, a non-consensual slave being whipped until he/she bleeds, and etc. That's what I see in my head when you describe being caned until your skin breaks and you bow and say "Please stop, I'm yours, I'll give you everything I can if you stop." It sounds so romantic, doesn't it? Not to me.

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ORIGINAL: VvShadowspawnvV

Master doesn't like to hear that i am "broken".  He says what He is doing is "fixing" me.  =)

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breaking.

i mean, i only know from how ever many hundreds of articles i have read about things, but i read article after article, written by people with a lot of years put into the lifestyle, participating in this activity.

there seems to be a lack of formaility, and while i relish in the individuality a lifestyle such as this can be lived, i feel like in the past ... uhm it may have been a bigger deal.

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For some, this "space beyond subspace" becomes a transcendant experience that they specifically seek for various personal reasons. 

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ORIGINAL: rose442

How does a slave get broken by her Master if there are kids in the home?
 
I know that is what i need to feel the slave that i want to and need to feel. The Master/slave bond is not there like i need it to be. I always have doubt, and question Master, and don't feel like i am pleasing Him at all, at any point and time, and i don't feel fulfilled. But that is my fault, i think.
 
Or what can be done to make me fill like there is no more room for love in my heart for my Master?
 
rose442

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ORIGINAL: Reflectivesoul
I also kind of feel the need to point out or atleast express that within a relationship dehumanizing a partner defeats the purpose of having that partner. Every person is entitled to their own individual "me". Why the need to change them is so great often times baffles me, because in the beginning when you first find someone is it not something about that person, in who they are, that attracts you in the first place?
 
I would hate the thought of being with someone who was merely a shell an empty box with no dreams or goals, no desires..... it would in a sense be like being with nothing at all. The idea of being with someone is to compliment the parts of us that we feel are important, enjoying another human being for their differences but at the same time delighting in the common connections between the people involved. Being able to share back and forth with someone. Where is the happiness in no differences? After a while wouldnt it become stale if someone else were always saying "what ever you wish" instead of actually having an oppinion or a desire to do something else? And not so much in a D/s aspect either, but rather in life as a whole. I know I personally hate it if I ask someone what they would like for dinner, what movies they would like to see, what places they want to go, and always getting a response of what ever you want is fine. The whole idea of asking someone else is that hello I want some input, I want you to be able to make a decision on your own, tell me what it is YOU want to do, what YOU want to see. Does that mean I give up any Dominance in doing so? No, it just means I dont want a doormat, I want someone that is able to make and stick with a thought or idea and that I want to be able to see the differences between what I might want at a particular time and what someone else may want, whats so wrong about that? ...................

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After the initial trauma & shock had subsided that such a thing could happen in the 20th century, frustration & anger swelled thus increasing resistance that somehow makes the break sharper. The breaking involved Words, Pain & Tortures, its effectively a brainwash that if so complete everything that was before can be wiped out. These things wear the mind & body down, also sleep depravation whether self induced or forced adds to the weight of the breaking through tiredness. Eventually with the increasing tortures & whipping I could see no respite in my trying to control my own mind & body. Logic showed there was no way out & this was how life was going to be, initially the only escape was sleep as & when that came. In an endurance whipping session over 3 days I mentally quit as I would do anything for a respite or sleep escapism.

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ORIGINAL: rose442

VvShadowsSpawnvV...
yes you are right. This does have to do with the other post. In some ways. I am just so frustrated. It is not getting better, if anything it is getting worse. Everyday i trust myself and Master less. I feel that i am not enough. I am not pleasing. I am not what He really thought I would be. I have a serious trust thing going on right now. And that is my biggest problem. I am severly jealous. And I am not sleeping because of it. I haven't hardly eaten in a few days now. It is getting worse everyday. And I don't see it getting better. And the reason for my trust being wacked right now, cannot be explaned.

The reason i wrote "broken" is for the emotional level. I want to feel like the slave i dream of and crave. And I am not saying i want to feel what all other slaves feel. Because I am my own person. And what I feel or could feel will be different than all other slaves.

rose442

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Stoney, if I might offer a suggestion...
Get a long ACE bandage for Rose.  Make her bind it about her waist each day, under her clothing.  It should be tight enough so that she is constantly aware of it, but not so tight she cannot breathe or function normally.  Tell her that this is her reminder that she is owned, that she is a slave.  She will be reminded with every breath she takes that her body belong to another.

Good luck to you both.

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ORIGINAL: mixielicous

well when i was doing all my research about collaring ceremonies, i would say about 90% of the ones i found, included *breaking*

it was purely physical; beaten into submission. its kind of like a *prove yourself*

its "supposed" to be the most major beating of your submission to show that you were serious about it, to start you off extremely humble from the get-go.

at least, thats what i picked up.

nothing mentally, just physical. kinda like initiation.