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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 12:50:59 PM   
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as others have said, the word slut, no matter what its dictionary term is listed as, has always been a slap down for women whether they actually lived up to the distinction or not. it's an abusive word meant to demean women. well get fucked right off coz i'm taking it and embrasing it as my own.

i wonder how many people use the word pervert, which has one meaning but has been used as a derogatory term against people for years as a discriptive of the unsavory. however, all it means is to turn away from the right course. lots of words get 'perverted' into something else, just as that word itself has been, and used with welcome by others to take away its offencive meaning.

lots of words are used by people to try and hurt, offend, insult, demean, dismiss etc.........

bitch....an example; when my ex and i split up for good he called me a bitch in an arguement because he couldn't fight his stupidity anymore and wanted to insult me. me? i smiled 'bitch i may be, but i'm nolonger Your bitch'. power taken right back and that beaten look on his face knowing i was right.

as has been said by another here, slut is a word i like, and i use it too. i'll take ownership of it when i'm called it by him, he takes ownership of it when i call him it. he calls me whore....or 'ooorre....which i'll also own in the same way. i am his slut, his whore, for him to use and abuse in any way he chooses.

i am filthy, dirty, nasty, kinky, debauched, perverted, wanton, and so much more. i'm proud of it, i'll claim it and own it all.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 1:27:58 PM   
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I think its called the evolution of the English language.


Evolution would indicate using words incorrectly, ignorantly and changing the meaning was a positive thing. I would argue it was rather than evolution of language, it was far more hijacking and misinterpretation becoming mainstream.



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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 1:30:29 PM   
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Yup, the more ignorant a society the more it defines itself by its ignorance, fluidity and language though are different to wanton hijacking of a word because it's not liked and actively promoting this meaning to the mainstream or re-branding homosexuals as 'Gays' because it sounds nicer. Not meant as a derogatory statement on homosexuality or homosexual people.


Sigh.... and the more ignorant and arrogant the commentators upon Society become, it seems.

The word slut has, for a very long time, been used, very widely, to describe a sexually promiscuous woman. As has been pointed out, promiscuity is judged (by ignorant jackasses) differently in women when compared to men.

When a woman proudly claims to be a slut, she isn't changing the meaning one bit - and if you were half as clever as you think you are, that would be evident to you. What she is seeking to change and challenge is society's pitifully outdated idea that a woman being a slut is a bad or "immoral" thing.


So let me get this right, wanton women and prostitutes have taken ownership of the word "slut", because they take pride in being wanton women and prostitutes. I am therefore supposed to feel they have empowered themselves and congratulate them on being wanton women and prostitutes? Go Sluts....I suppose...

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 1:44:39 PM   
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Yup, the more ignorant a society the more it defines itself by its ignorance, fluidity and language though are different to wanton hijacking of a word because it's not liked and actively promoting this meaning to the mainstream or re-branding homosexuals as 'Gays' because it sounds nicer. Not meant as a derogatory statement on homosexuality or homosexual people.


Sigh.... and the more ignorant and arrogant the commentators upon Society become, it seems.

The word slut has, for a very long time, been used, very widely, to describe a sexually promiscuous woman. As has been pointed out, promiscuity is judged (by ignorant jackasses) differently in women when compared to men.

When a woman proudly claims to be a slut, she isn't changing the meaning one bit - and if you were half as clever as you think you are, that would be evident to you. What she is seeking to change and challenge is society's pitifully outdated idea that a woman being a slut is a bad or "immoral" thing.


So let me get this right, wanton women and prostitutes have taken ownership of the word "slut", because they take pride in being wanton women and prostitutes. I am therefore supposed to feel they have empowered themselves and congratulate them on being wanton women and prostitutes? Go Sluts....I suppose...


there are none so blind as those who don't wish to see.

you need to realise that it doesn't matter what you think of its use or meaning, we (generic) will use it as we wish. simply because we like it.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 1:48:34 PM   
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Yup, the more ignorant a society the more it defines itself by its ignorance, fluidity and language though are different to wanton hijacking of a word because it's not liked and actively promoting this meaning to the mainstream or re-branding homosexuals as 'Gays' because it sounds nicer. Not meant as a derogatory statement on homosexuality or homosexual people.


Sigh.... and the more ignorant and arrogant the commentators upon Society become, it seems.

The word slut has, for a very long time, been used, very widely, to describe a sexually promiscuous woman. As has been pointed out, promiscuity is judged (by ignorant jackasses) differently in women when compared to men.

When a woman proudly claims to be a slut, she isn't changing the meaning one bit - and if you were half as clever as you think you are, that would be evident to you. What she is seeking to change and challenge is society's pitifully outdated idea that a woman being a slut is a bad or "immoral" thing.


So let me get this right, wanton women and prostitutes have taken ownership of the word "slut", because they take pride in being wanton women and prostitutes. I am therefore supposed to feel they have empowered themselves and congratulate them on being wanton women and prostitutes? Go Sluts....I suppose...


there are none so blind as those who don't wish to see.

you need to realise that it doesn't matter what you think of its use or meaning, we (generic) will use it as we wish. simply because we like it.

needles


As I said... Go Sluts!

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 1:50:35 PM   
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Yup, the more ignorant a society the more it defines itself by its ignorance, fluidity and language though are different to wanton hijacking of a word because it's not liked and actively promoting this meaning to the mainstream or re-branding homosexuals as 'Gays' because it sounds nicer. Not meant as a derogatory statement on homosexuality or homosexual people.


Sigh.... and the more ignorant and arrogant the commentators upon Society become, it seems.

The word slut has, for a very long time, been used, very widely, to describe a sexually promiscuous woman. As has been pointed out, promiscuity is judged (by ignorant jackasses) differently in women when compared to men.

When a woman proudly claims to be a slut, she isn't changing the meaning one bit - and if you were half as clever as you think you are, that would be evident to you. What she is seeking to change and challenge is society's pitifully outdated idea that a woman being a slut is a bad or "immoral" thing.


So let me get this right, wanton women and prostitutes have taken ownership of the word "slut", because they take pride in being wanton women and prostitutes. I am therefore supposed to feel they have empowered themselves and congratulate them on being wanton women and prostitutes? Go Sluts....I suppose...


Nope. I'm sorry, you appear not to have understood my point at all. The likelihood of you being able to understand it is, sadly, so impossibly remote that I'm not going to bother to explain it to you.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 1:53:22 PM   
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Yup, the more ignorant a society the more it defines itself by its ignorance, fluidity and language though are different to wanton hijacking of a word because it's not liked and actively promoting this meaning to the mainstream or re-branding homosexuals as 'Gays' because it sounds nicer. Not meant as a derogatory statement on homosexuality or homosexual people.


Sigh.... and the more ignorant and arrogant the commentators upon Society become, it seems.

The word slut has, for a very long time, been used, very widely, to describe a sexually promiscuous woman. As has been pointed out, promiscuity is judged (by ignorant jackasses) differently in women when compared to men.

When a woman proudly claims to be a slut, she isn't changing the meaning one bit - and if you were half as clever as you think you are, that would be evident to you. What she is seeking to change and challenge is society's pitifully outdated idea that a woman being a slut is a bad or "immoral" thing.


So let me get this right, wanton women and prostitutes have taken ownership of the word "slut", because they take pride in being wanton women and prostitutes. I am therefore supposed to feel they have empowered themselves and congratulate them on being wanton women and prostitutes? Go Sluts....I suppose...


Nope. I'm sorry, you appear not to have understood my point at all. The likelihood of you being able to understand it is, sadly, so impossibly remote that I'm not going to bother to explain it to you.


So you're saying they have changed the meaning of the word? Why did you say they hadn't?

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 1:59:16 PM   
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Nope, I'm not saying that at all.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 2:05:16 PM   
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philslave, you continue to say "wanton women and prostitutes" because, to you, that's what a woman who isn't afraid of sex is (i'm guessing). people who use "slut" to describe themselves are just saying "there's nothing wrong with being wanton women." because there isn't. men have been doing it for aeons without having any real universal derogatory term to describe their behavior.
you probably will never get it because you believe that there should be this double standard in behavioral codes (i'm assuming, again), and that's fine for you. but, for others, it's not fine, and they would rather change that.


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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 2:12:06 PM   
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philslave, you continue to say "wanton women and prostitutes" because, to you, that's what a woman who isn't afraid of sex is (i'm guessing). people who use "slut" to describe themselves are just saying "there's nothing wrong with being wanton women." because there isn't. men have been doing it for aeons without having any real universal derogatory term to describe their behavior.
you probably will never get it because you believe that there should be this double standard in behavioral codes (i'm assuming, again), and that's fine for you. but, for others, it's not fine, and they would rather change that.



I actually think most men who behave like that are not respected either.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 2:17:29 PM   
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Yup, the more ignorant a society the more it defines itself by its ignorance, fluidity and language though are different to wanton hijacking of a word because it's not liked and actively promoting this meaning to the mainstream or re-branding homosexuals as 'Gays' because it sounds nicer. Not meant as a derogatory statement on homosexuality or homosexual people.


Sigh.... and the more ignorant and arrogant the commentators upon Society become, it seems.

The word slut has, for a very long time, been used, very widely, to describe a sexually promiscuous woman. As has been pointed out, promiscuity is judged (by ignorant jackasses) differently in women when compared to men.

When a woman proudly claims to be a slut, she isn't changing the meaning one bit - and if you were half as clever as you think you are, that would be evident to you. What she is seeking to change and challenge is society's pitifully outdated idea that a woman being a slut is a bad or "immoral" thing.


So let me get this right, wanton women and prostitutes have taken ownership of the word "slut", because they take pride in being wanton women and prostitutes. I am therefore supposed to feel they have empowered themselves and congratulate them on being wanton women and prostitutes? Go Sluts....I suppose...


there are none so blind as those who don't wish to see.

you need to realise that it doesn't matter what you think of its use or meaning, we (generic) will use it as we wish. simply because we like it.

needles


As I said... Go Sluts!



all the while trying to patronise simply because you are too narrow minded to get it. both your postings and your profile very much suggest a bigotted, narrow minded person.

open your eyes and you may just be amazed by the colours you see. because as every colour has a different tone, so does a word depending on how it's used and meant by each individual person.

needles

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 2:22:04 PM   
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Phil, the problem you have is twofold.

1. You are insisting on using only two of the various definitions found in the dictionary. The word, like most in English, has more than one meaning. While a prostitute is one of the possible meanings of the word slut, and a wanton woman is another, so is a saucy girl. Surely you are not claiming that a saucy girl is a prostitute or a wanton woman, are you?

2. The second part of your problem is that you feel threatened by a woman who accepts and  indulges her sexual desires. This is very common among men who are unsure of themselves and who have low self esteem.

It would seem that, to you, there is something undesirable about a wanton woman. Well let me tell you, there is not! Pretty much every woman I've had sex with has been wanton about it. I happen to like sluts. I like fucking, sluts like fucking, we've got some common ground already. I don't have to persuade them to have sex, I can jump right to step two and persuade them to have sex with me. Saves time. The less time spent seducing, the more time spent reaping the rewards of seduction.

Go Sluts indeed!


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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 2:30:55 PM   
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I like fucking, sluts like fucking, we've got some common ground already. I don't have to persuade them to have sex, I can jump right to step two and persuade them to have sex with me.



haha ^_^ that's awesome


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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 3:40:50 PM   
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I hate the word with a passion - but it is useful as a filter....

I see "slut" in a sub's profile (or esp screen name), I've read enough and head for the 'X' in the top right corner.

Focus.



But if someone identifies with the word in a positive way, is that a bad thing? i suppose saying that, that i would have never called myself "slut" of my own accord inititally. Master labelled me with it and as such i associate it with happy and good feelings. His use of the word has enabled me to become free of the negative connotations that i had given it in my previous life and thus freed me sexually. Would you say that is a bad thing?


A positive way...?

It really is the *word* that I hate. Now this being a kink site n all, I understand there are words (like 'slut') and phrases that people use generically as part of the accepted everyday language or of feeling they belong etc - fair enough. Someone even said "badge of honour", which is a bit much for mine, but ok, same sort of thing....

But me being old and as one whose always been attracted to girly girl qualities in partners, "slut" just doesn't make it and I don't use the *word*, even though some of my actions toward the girl might well amount to the same thing. I'm as down-to-earth and laid-back as anyone can be but that word totally lacks class and style and when I see it posted publically in a profile, I can't help but relate that person as equally lacking class and style. Some things really are best left in private, IMO.

I do get that it works for you within your current personal relationship, but (and without reading your profile) would you say as much if you were single and seeking?

Focus.


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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 3:50:31 PM   
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I hate the word with a passion - but it is useful as a filter....

I see "slut" in a sub's profile (or esp screen name), I've read enough and head for the 'X' in the top right corner.

Focus.



I tend to hit the "X" button on all sorts of screen names, like 'harddick4u" 'slutabuser', 'strictmaster', hardcoremeandude'.... etc etc etc.

So your penchant for screening mates isn't bad or anything....

I also screen out men that talk about being 'firm but compassionate', 'strict when necessary', in their profile descriptions... I do understand that all of these things may appeal to someone else, even if they do not appeal to me. I think a lot of men are looking for a 'slut during the night time and a prim gal by day' sort...

Its called different flavors for different folks.


Lol, don't think I've got any of those things in my profile....

Forget how it goes now.... Something like the ideal (female) partner being a chef in the kitchen, lady in the dining room and whore (or slut) in bed. Crude and basic, but yeah. I just won't be calling her that in the bedroom - or anywhere else.

Focus.


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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 4:22:37 PM   
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i agree with kiwi. it can be used as a term of affection.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 4:25:16 PM   
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Thank you and glad you agree.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 4:27:36 PM   
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Nope. I'm sorry, you appear not to have understood my point at all. The likelihood of you being able to understand it is, sadly, so impossibly remote that I'm not going to bother to explain it to you.


I think he understands and is just in denial about it all, the problem might be that despite labeling themselves sluts they don't want to be sluts with him, which must be grating...

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 4:28:42 PM   
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Nope. I'm sorry, you appear not to have understood my point at all. The likelihood of you being able to understand it is, sadly, so impossibly remote that I'm not going to bother to explain it to you.


I think he understands and is just in denial about it all, the problem might be that despite labeling themselves sluts they don't want to be sluts with him, which must be grating...


Ha, love the way your posts are all about me Ms. Bingo Wings.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 4:29:05 PM   
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If there such people as sluts...we are all sluts.

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