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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 9:42:39 AM

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who decides what "misuse" of a word is? =p it's not like the definitions of words are handed down from the infinite wisdom of our benevolent alien overlords.

Even the various dictionaries quoted in this thread do not completely agree. I would hate to have to qualify our speech to specify.

Lilly, you're a real <Dictionary.com 5> slut <Mirriam-Webster 2b>. A little clumsy, but it will remove a lot of misunderstandings.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 9:43:37 AM

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The inventors of the words who originally endowed them with their meanings, as interpreted from the first texts to employ them?

so then what language do you speak?

one of the things i love about language is the fact that it does change over time. i guess i just don't understand your "don't change it!" perspective.
language is a tool that people use to communicate; it reflects the needs and perceptions of the people who use it at the time they're using it. but it isn't a sacred thing that must be preserved from any and all transformation.

the original definitions are just as made up as any "modern" definition.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 9:44:48 AM

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Lilly, you're a real <Dictionary.com 5> slut <Mirriam-Webster 2b>. A little clumsy, but it will remove a lot of misunderstandings.

HAHA ^_^

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 9:47:06 AM

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who decides what "misuse" of a word is? =p it's not like the definitions of words are handed down from the infinite wisdom of our benevolent alien overlords.

The inventors of the words who originally endowed them with their meanings, as interpreted from the first texts to employ them?

They all grew and evolved in the first instance, from a grunt to a sonnet.

We are the re-inventorsThe originals are dead.
fuck 'em!

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 9:51:26 AM

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The inventors of the words who originally endowed them with their meanings, as interpreted from the first texts to employ them?

It is one thing to appreciate the history of a word. Quite another to say that the word will be held to that original meaning forever.

Also, let Me say that I'm not in complete disagreement with you. I think the evolution of a word doesn't really happen when both knowing the history of a word as well as it's new definition are not met. My personal pet peeves on this one are the terms "boi" and "fetish". At least half of the time when used, folks don't know the deeper meaning of the words and are only familiar with them because they sound cool.

Yet, with the word "slut" that isn't what I see happening. I see people who are fully aware that the term gets used in a derogatory sense, which is why they are taking the power back from that word. They are embracing it as a part of their independence of their sexuality. We've certainly done that with other words that were used in a negative way when it reflects racism or other forms of bigotry.

As an aside, I actually never use this term regarding women. I only use it in clip's case. Even without the negative connotation associated to a particular gender, it's a wonderful reaction when he gets called My slut.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 9:55:00 AM

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Even without the negative connotation associated to a particular gender, it's a wonderful reaction when he gets called My slut.

I haz a shiver.

Its a good thing.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 9:59:05 AM

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I think this is what disturbs me most. It implies that unless you define yourself as a slut, you are considered prudish and uptight. When people use the term it is like saying "I like sex more than you" And what does that say about people who are not sluts? I ALWAYS enjoyed sex. In fact I can say when I am sexually active it governs how I think and react. But I have never wished to think of myself a slut. I never understood why people don't come up with a new word to say what they think.
As for other words that reflect racism or bigotry... shoot, even those terms are said very carefully and only among people that you know won't mind. The N word is not universally accepted as good and I doubt it ever will be.

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I see people who are fully aware that the term gets used in a derogatory sense, which is why they are taking the power back from that word. They are embracing it as a part of their independence of their sexuality. We've certainly done that with other words that were used in a negative way when it reflects racism or other forms of bigotry.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 10:15:08 AM

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In modern languages words change their definitions and meanings frequently, hence we have dead languages and extinct languages, Old English is extinct as it evolved into Modern English, an extinct language has no speakers anymore, a dead language is only used for certain purposes (Latin would be one example), a modern language is a living language that evolves constantly, since slut is definitely an English word, words changing from their original meaning is a given...

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 10:19:16 AM

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We've certainly done that with other words that were used in a negative way when it reflects racism or other forms of bigotry.

That's why my gay friends are dykes, lezbos, fags, homos, and so on. We're not changing the meaning of the word, just stripping it of its power to hurt.

I'm an oversexed, perverted, promiscuous, poly, homo, baby dyke, blue jean femme, gold star lezbo slut, strumpet, harlot and whore. And proud of it!

Every one of those terms can be used on me in an attempt to insult me, but by accepting that they are essentially correct, in at least one of their definitions, and adopting them myself, they no longer have any power over me, they are merely descriptive words. Words I find it quite satisfying to be defined by.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 10:28:46 AM

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a modern language is a living language that evolves constantly, since slut is definitely an English word, words changing from their original meaning is a given...

exactly. i don't understand the "don't ever change, baby!" attitude towards language. =p

i remember a conversation like this on fetlife; some people didn't want to call themselves sluts but wanted to find another word to use. of course people who object to a word changing meaning would probably object to "nympho" too, but i tend to like that one. plus, it makes me think of faeries, too. ^_^ haha

i dunno what i call myself. i don't randomly fuck strangers, but i have a ridiculously high sex drive and have no qualms with acting on it with people i have a connection with. =p

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 10:32:01 AM

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*partial repost from 2008*

"My thoughts on the word itself have evolved over the years. When I was much (much!) younger, it was 'always' bad to be thought of as a slut. Guys would fuck you but not date you or take you home to their families. Girls wouldn't be friends with sluts. The stigma attached was akin to being skanky.

That stigma is still attached to the word in many ways. Taking ownership or pride in the word slut is very personal to a given individual. I'm not crazy about having that word applied to me except under certain circumstances by certain people. Ultimately, time and place appropriate works for me. I would never go up to the Pastor's wife, for example, and call her a slut. I might drop that label on a really good friend who's acting slutty and who I know would laugh along with me at the term and not be offended by it because no offense would be intended."

One of the men who used to frequent the Gorean forums used the term "sluttling" and I just adored it. It softens the term slut, for me, and takes it more to a level of term of endearment and one in which being a sluttling is appreciated without the negative connotations.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 10:32:28 AM

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I used to hate the word slut, until I met the boss. He unleashed the wanton hussy within, and now with him I am a totally shameless sex beast

I now wear a collar with a tag on it that says "My slut". It's absolutely true - for him I am a complete slut. The OP's original definition - woman who can put pride, ego, and shame away as she pursues sexual pleasure. - is absolutely appropriate, with the proviso that I only want sexual pleasure with him.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 10:40:56 AM

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I'm OK with "A promiscuous woman" or "A woman of loose morals". I don't think there's a need to define it further. Using those definitions I am quite comfortable with being called a slut.

Actually, I'm slightly disappointed with that definition: it's not bad enough for me. I thought a 'slut' carried the extra connotation of 'someone who allows herself to be used (i.e. exploited or abused) for the sexual gratification of another. Or 'himself', in my case.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 10:42:41 AM

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Peon.. come be my slut *grin*

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 10:43:00 AM

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"nympho" too, but i tend to like that one.

Oh my! I like that one to, and it applies, so do wanton and hussy.

Oh and lolita! I am definately a lolita!

Methinks a revision is in order.

I'm an wanton, oversexed, perverted, promiscuous, poly, baby dyke, blue jean femme, gold star lezbo, nympho homo, lolita slut, hussy, strumpet, harlot and whore. And proud of it!

Now please stop thinking up more wonderful words to be.

<That is so going on my profile!>

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 10:43:25 AM

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hoi - there's a queue, doncha know?

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 10:44:14 AM

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hey.. yer spoken for.. *hugs da bunny*

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 10:46:04 AM

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hey.. yer spoken for.. *hugs da bunny*

damn...lol

*bunnyhugs right back atcha*

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 11:29:30 AM

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A prostitute gets paid.

Im a slut. I fuck because it feels good.

Im a selective slut. I decide who I fuck.

A slut has no inhibitions. When with someone I love, I hold nothing back.

When he calls me a slut, its spoken with love, and lust.

Of course there will always be people who believe that because I admit Im a slut, I will fuck them too.

Imagine their surprise when I tell them to go fuck themselves.

Oh yes. This is it. ;) You rawk tazzygirl

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 11:30:44 AM

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"nympho" too, but i tend to like that one.
Oh my! I like that one to, and it applies, so do wanton and hussy.

Oh and lolita! I am definately a lolita!

Methinks a revision is in order.

I'm an wanton, oversexed, perverted, promiscuous, poly, baby dyke, blue jean femme, gold star lezbo, nympho homo, lolita slut, hussy, strumpet, harlot and whore. And proud of it!

Now please stop thinking up more wonderful words to be.

<That is so going on my profile!>

You forgot HAWWWWWWWWWWWT

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