Damn.  What a shame that I was at an afternoon munch today that I missed getting in on the ground floor on this one.  Probably semi-pointless at this time for My two cents, but that's never stopped Me before. 

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ORIGINAL: JWriter

.. that, in the majority, the same expectations and requirements exist for all females, whether subs, slaves, switches, Dommes, or, etc?

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Dress in leather.

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Wear pointy-toed shoes

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Offer me your ass.

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Beguile me with your cunt and tits

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Spend my money, but, only on things that please me.

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If you want something from me, perform to my expectations first.

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Look like an Auschwitz victim, by weight.

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Wear bright red lipstick.

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Keep yourself impeccably groomed at all times.

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Don't expect me to pay for it.

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Never be comfortable.

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Never be weak.

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Never be human.

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Try not to speak.

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In photos, the only way you can tell the difference between a "Mistress" and a "slave girl", most of the time is by whether she is standing or kneeling. Sometimes, you can't tell, even then.

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And, apparently, both are 24/7 jobs of enforced activity, to heighten the male sense and drain the male libido.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
Perhaps you should pick your males better.  I don't seem to have this issue with Mine.

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ORIGINAL: LadyNTrainer

Professionally, yes.  Their expectation was that I stay in the dungeon 24/7, not have a life outside of it (eg, not speak to them outside of session space or be a part of their everyday lives), wear uncomfortable clothes at all times, and stick strictly to their fantasy script and not actually initiate a real conversation.

Is this really surprising? 

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

No, I haven't noticed this. I'm inclined to agree with LadyPact that you aren't really meeting the right kind of men.

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ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD

HNG = horny net geek :)

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ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD

Unfortunately I didn't have to resort to going to this site for the definition of "hng"...but I've found it useful in deciphering numerous acronyms used online. :)

Urban Dictionary

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ORIGINAL: JWriter

.. that, in the majority, the same expectations and requirements exist for all females, whether subs, slaves, switches, Dommes, or, etc?
i will only answer from a sub's point of view, as i have no idea what the majority of men expect from slaves, switches, or Dommes.

Dress in leather. no

Wear pointy-toed shoes no

Offer me your ass. Well, yes, assuming i'm sexually involved with the person.

Beguile me with your cunt and tits What does that mean? That they would like to see them? Yes. If i get to THAT point, it's because a foundation of trust and respect has been established.

Spend my money, but, only on things that please me. i normally don't spend other people's money , whether it's for a relationship or just play. The only exception was letting someone pay my entrance fee to a play party, which i would not have been able to pay for myself. The same person gave me an old bike they had, so that i wouldn't have to walk to work after my bike got stolen. Having said that, if i WERE spending someone else's money, why wouldn't they be the one to decide what it was used for?

If you want something from me, perform to my expectations first. Isn't that true for all relationships? Doesn't each person come to the table with certain expectations, and won't each of them leave if they don't get what they absolutely need? i can't comment on whether there are more male subs who think of Dommes as a kink delivery device, but from my point of view as a submissive woman, i would not be involved with any man who saw ME as one.

Look like an Auschwitz victim, by weight. No.

Wear bright red lipstick. No.

Keep yourself impeccably groomed at all times. Actually, i'm kind of a slob.

Don't expect me to pay for it. Pay for what? i bathe and wear clean clothes. My clothes are NOT fancy, but i buy them myself. i don't color my nails. On the rare occasions that i wear makeup i buy it myself, and my hair... well, you can see. i've never had plastic surgery. My grooming doesn't strain my resources. And if anyone expected me to, i would direct them to my profile which lists "requiring me to do anything involving money" as a limit.

Never be comfortable. My top specifically went out and bought new suspension gloves so i WOULD be comfortable.

Never be weak. He has never failed to have patience for my weaknesses.

Never be human. See above.

Try not to speak. Actually, His criticism is that i don't communicate enough.

In photos, the only way you can tell the difference between a "Mistress" and a "slave girl", most of the time is by whether she is standing or kneeling. Sometimes, you can't tell, even then. You mean, on the internet.

And, apparently, both are 24/7 jobs of enforced activity, to heighten the male sense and drain the male libido. So don't buy into the internet bullshit. If i was a stripper, and my ONLY contact with men was through the strip club, and i was to form my opinion about ALL men based on how the majority of men act in a strip club, i would say, men are pigs. But all it would really mean is that many of the men in strip clubs act like pigs. If the majority of men you meet in real life act like that then you're doing something wrong.

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ORIGINAL: JWriter

FFS! And, this is definitely the last time I even look at this thread, much less respond to anything on it. AS I SAID ALREADY it was not about insulting women, or against women at all.

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It was about humorously expressing an observation that, regardless of whether they claim to be dominant or submissive, almost all the men on this site ask for exactly the same things out of a woman, when it comes to how to dress, and, what counts as either serving or being served. Which is easily observable by reading their emails, or, their profiles.

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It's an observation that was made before, yes. It is even an observation that was made before by both dom and sub men, who also thought it was humorous.

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I was not looking for an argument. I did not insult anyone in the original post, and, if I insulted anyone afterward, it was only because they attacked me first.

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Fortunately, they are all now blocked and hidden from my view, too.

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Sorry for expecting the women on this forum to actually engage in conversation with another woman, just like they were all adults, capable of understanding the same language, and, sharing stories, having a laugh, expressing sympathy at the frustration of it all, or, etc. Trust me, it won't happen again.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

See, you're bitching about a problem, but you're not being a part of the solution.