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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/15/2011 5:04:17 PM

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To me, this has moved from supporting breast cancer to a self-serving thumbing their noses at people who told them no.

That you have such a narrow and inflexible puritanical view of things really doesn't surprise me. To be honest, I expected nothing else from you.

Now, bye, I'm off to feel some bumps for lumps...have fun wringing your hands over the poor innocent little darlings who are flashing their titties to their boyfriends on webcam as we speak.

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/15/2011 5:06:29 PM

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Dress all in pink. Encourage everyone to dress in pink including the football players.

That sounds pretty good. Would those football players go with the idea? I think the average teen male here in the UK would. Teen males aren't like they were here even a couple of decades ago.

TBH, I can't get to grips with North American culture. Sometimes, you all can appear so liberal; other times, the fanatical Biblical stuff rears its head. Morality is one minute all about liberal-democratic rights; the next, it's all about 'an eye for an eye'. Killing people for their crimes is fine and most yanks still cream their knickers over just how morally righteous that is; teenaged girls being aware of sex is utterly unacceptable, no matter how much tawdry semi-porn pop music videos are pumped at them with the fawning approval of all those in government (or who hope to be in government).

You are all weird.

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/15/2011 5:20:32 PM

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To me, this has moved from supporting breast cancer to a self-serving thumbing their noses at people who told them no.
That you have such a narrow and inflexible puritanical view of things really doesn't surprise me. To be honest, I expected nothing else from you.

Now, bye, I'm off to feel some bumps for lumps...have fun wringing your hands over the poor innocent little darlings who are flashing their titties to their boyfriends on webcam as we speak.

Your views are as narrow and inflexible as anyone else on this board, so really, I expect nothing else from you, than to think all high school cheerleaders are flashing their tits and dreaming of being felt up.

It amazes me that you are so fast to scream about being talked down to as a young person, when you do the exact same thing to anyone who does not agree with your "everything has a simple answer and yall are too old and ignorant to understand it" ideals.

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/15/2011 5:22:21 PM

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Dress all in pink. Encourage everyone to dress in pink including the football players.

That sounds pretty good. Would those football players go with the idea? I think the average teen male here in the UK would. Teen males aren't like they were here even a couple of decades ago.

TBH, I can't get to grips with North American culture. Sometimes, you all can appear so liberal; other times, the fanatical Biblical stuff rears its head. Morality is one minute all about liberal-democratic rights; the next, it's all about 'an eye for an eye'. Killing people for their crimes is fine and most yanks still cream their knickers over just how morally righteous that is; teenaged girls being aware of sex is utterly unacceptable, no matter how much tawdry semi-porn pop music videos are pumped at them with the fawning approval of all those in government (or who hope to be in government).

You are all weird.

Perhaps you can't come to grips with it because you are trying to justify it wrong. A great deal of what goes on in the US isn't because of Puritanical bible bullshit. It is because everyone is trying to protect themselves from potential litigation.

You have no children, but do you think parents are not aware of the music videos and what not? Do you think that most parents turn a blind eye to that shit? My son wasn't allowed to watch MTV until he was about 14 and even then, it was limited.

Regardless of that, what the media presents doesn't represent what we allow our own children to do. My son's girlfriend dresses like a hootchie, has since I met her at 14. Now they have a daughter and I asked my son if his daughter would be permitted to dress like that. His answer? HELL NO!

So you are a smart cookie. Try to figure out the difference. Inviting trouble in school is never a good idea.

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/15/2011 5:30:20 PM

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Bursts out laughing, my god heather, i perfected that exit flounce when i was 12 years old. Did you stick your nose in the air too.

I wonder how this got from my agreeing the school administration was correct to flashing titties to boys. Is that some new breast cancer thing now that teenagers are doing in the name of same?

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/15/2011 5:33:44 PM

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Perhaps you can't come to grips with it because you are trying to justify it wrong. A great deal of what goes on in the US isn't because of Puritanical bible bullshit. It is because everyone is trying to protect themselves from potential litigation.

Yes, I've heard of that. Ah, the beauty of the free market, and how lawyers can expand their splendidly obese waistlines as a result of such litigation. Well, it's getting a grip here in the UK, too.

Agreed: I have to say, as a headmaster given that situation, I'd go for the 'legal safety first' principle. Parents of all political hues uniformly come over all conservative when it comes to their children. I've avoided getting into the profession of the education of children almost as much as I've avoided becoming a parent, for just such reasons. I've successfully achieved both, so far, thank God.

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/15/2011 5:36:25 PM

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Ah, the beauty of the free market, and how lawyers can expand their splendidly obese waistlines as a result of such litigation.

Actually, if people weren't so desperate to sue people, the lawyers wouldn't have cases. So before you blame the lawyers, put the responsibility on the people who demand to sue and want what they can get.

Sorry off topic but that insinuation just irritates me because it takes away responsibility of the party doing the suing.

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/15/2011 5:38:45 PM

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TBH, I can't get to grips with North American culture. Sometimes, you all can appear so liberal; other times, the fanatical Biblical stuff rears its head. Morality is one minute all about liberal-democratic rights; the next, it's all about 'an eye for an eye'. Killing people for their crimes is fine and most yanks still cream their knickers over just how morally righteous that is; teenaged girls being aware of sex is utterly unacceptable, no matter how much tawdry semi-porn pop music videos are pumped at them with the fawning approval of all those in government (or who hope to be in government).

You are all weird.

There is no such thing as North American culture. What is expected in Lancaster Pennsylvania has little to do with what is acceptable where I live, in Northeast Nevada. Lancaster is home to some of the most conservative religious elements on the continent. My county has legal brothels. One of them has a nice SM room. What is normal here would be impossible in Polk County Florida where the local sheriff has made a name for himself by shutting down the gay bars, arresting a porn performer in her home, and threatening the guy who hosted the local BDSM parties until he felt he had to quit hosting them.

I have no idea how politics in Hull is different from politics in Leeds. You would have to explain it to me.

The "weird" thing I will take under advisement. :)

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/15/2011 5:43:12 PM

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/15/2011 5:49:50 PM

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Ah, the beauty of the free market, and how lawyers can expand their splendidly obese waistlines as a result of such litigation.

Actually, if people weren't so desperate to sue people, the lawyers wouldn't have cases. So before you blame the lawyers, put the responsibility on the people who demand to sue and want what they can get.

Sorry off topic but that insinuation just irritates me because it takes away responsibility of the party doing the suing.

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It's always seemed to me that there's an increasingly desperate movement in the USA to blame individuals rather than the society overall. Lawyers are greedy and want to become fat and rich so they take the cases of litigants who, themselves, are selfish and want to become fatter and richer. The only way to stop this is to put into place ways of controlling *everyone's* greed and desire to become fatter and richer.

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/15/2011 5:52:05 PM

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There is no such thing as North American culture.

Thank you for that, Pony Groom. I shall add it to my forum bylines, crediting you and noting that you yourself are a North American.

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/15/2011 5:56:16 PM

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There's no reason to use such a slogan on a tee shirt to raise money. They could just adopt the rodeo cowboy slogan "Tough Enough to Wear Pink" with a pink ribbon on it. Everybody knows what a pink ribbon means. Hell they could even sell pink tee shirts and pink ribbons.

They went looking for something offensive and it is not at all surprising that the barely legals of that same age, just out of high school themselves, also think they are being oh so grown up by wanting to be offensive and turning the discussion from self exams to sex. Which in a nutshell, proves the point of all the older folks here.

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/15/2011 5:56:39 PM

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if it were my underage daughter I would not have allowed her to wear a shirt that said something like that to school. I've dealt with such things when my daughter was younger and wouldn't allow her to wear things that invited trouble and believe me, the boys would have seen that shirt as an invite to lift the girls' shirts or grab their tits.

Now I still wouldn't have loved the idea of her wearing such things in college but she doesn't live with me and I can't tell her what to say or do anymore. I have to trust her to choose what's right on her own. Thankfully she finds such slogans to be lame and tacky and prefers to wear classic and classy clothing.

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/15/2011 6:07:17 PM

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There's no reason to use such a slogan on a tee shirt to raise money. They could just adopt the rodeo cowboy slogan "Tough Enough to Wear Pink" with a pink ribbon on it.

I'm not so sure about that, Des. Sounds a bit poofy to me.

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/15/2011 6:28:09 PM

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nevermind, stereotypical BS. Blame the lawyers not the people.

This thread isn't about that.

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/15/2011 7:36:53 PM

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http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/cheerleaders-chastised-inappropriate-breast-cancer-t-shirts-222837009.html

What say you?

Teenagers are pretty savvy these days and we're not talking 10 year olds here. These young women are between the ages of 14 and 18 or so. They want to draw awareness to an issue which is important to them. Outside of school, I completely support their right to wear what they like since it's not my job to fashion police them. If their parents are cool with it, I am as well and if I had a daughter that age, I'd have no problem allowing her to wear the t's and on top of that would encourage her to do monthly breast exams as well.

In school, however, the school has the right and the responsibility to restrict clothing choices and if the admins feel parental or student choices are distracting from the job these children have to learn, then they will just have to wear their t's on their own time. Just because they can't wear a specific item of clothing doesn't mean that can't talk about their cause with their peers. Learning is the priority at school. Other things take second place to that and can be pursued after the school day is over.

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/15/2011 7:40:13 PM

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Perfect attention whore shirt.

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/15/2011 8:37:29 PM

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I think the slogan is inappropriate - in general and especially for shirts worn by those students at school or school functions. I'm going to side with the school administrators on this one.

Where are all of the cute slogans for colon cancer?

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/15/2011 10:35:08 PM

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distracting from the job these children have to learn

And what exactly are they supposed to learn at a football game? What is the vital lesson that will be distracted from?

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/15/2011 10:43:33 PM

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I wonder how this got from my agreeing the school administration was correct to flashing titties to boys. Is that some new breast cancer thing now that teenagers are doing in the name of same?

No, the way it got from there is that while you, and others are all saying how age inappropriate the shirt is, those same girls are lifting their shirts and flashing their boyfriends and girlfriends on cam on a regular basis. The point is that you people simply don't have any idea what is being done by high school girls in this day and age. What was inappropriate when you were in school is quite simply boring, run of the mill nowadays.

Perhaps there is a major difference here between the US and Canada, because both Suze and Cheri confirm what I am saying, it was the same in their high schools as well. Topless pix and caming is a pretty normal thing nowadays.

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