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RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? - 10/21/2011 2:47:02 PM   
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Between your poor writing skills (and it isn't just the typos) and your idiotic assumptions (or ASSumptions, as one poster put it), you are going to be lucky to find a sub, fat or thin; short or tall; old or young; smart or stupid.  Well, you might be able to find a stupid one.
It is OK to have preferences.  No one is saying it is not.  But this idea you have that everyone dislikes larger women is, well, wrong for one thing and bigoted for another.  Do you honestly believe that your tastes are shared by everyone?  How self involved are you?
In any case, lotsa luck in your search.  If I happen to come across some skinny chick who is dying to meet an arrogant, ignorant, self involved asshole, I will send her your way.  OK?
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If you watch too much BDSM porn, you start thinking that's what BDSMers look like.


Exactly and if the thicker variety of women are seeked at a rate of 90 % to thin or skinny or whatever as most of these replies would like me to believe, the why isn't more porn involving larger partners more common. I know some exists but not nearly the revenue as other.Why not all movies? Why didn't Chris farley do action topless Rambo flicks. Why when you go to bars like hooters etc why isn't their a 200 pound waitress serving you. Where do you go for a plus size strip club? Do they even exist? Cheerleaders on any team are never even the Least bit overweight. You wanna try to alienate me that's cool. People in entertainment, tv, everything else cater to what the GENERAL public want to see. Nobody lets the fat girl cut in line in front of everyone at a nightclub. Remember there was a Tyra banks show she put on a fat suit to see reactions. Sorry for any typos, I'm doing this from a mobile. Again I say nothing wrong with bigger women. It's not my cup of tea. There's men who like that sure. I however am not the only one who doesn't


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RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? - 10/21/2011 2:47:50 PM   
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OP, here's an idea. Pass by the profiles that don't appeal to you, and look at the ones that do. That's what I and many, many others do. No need for rants, no need for veiled insults. Go your merry way. Oh and may I also suggest getting out in your community and meeting women in the real world instead of depending on finding what you want online?



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RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? - 10/21/2011 3:55:19 PM   
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The reason why you don't see many single "thin" women on BDSM sites is because they found someone who would happily tie them up and buttfuck them silly without needing the internet. BBW generally are more picky. Thin women will take whatever they can get, and usually do.


Seriously? I really hope you're joking. I'm not thin but I'm not fat either and I have been thin. No matter what my weight has been I've always been extremely picky and I have never not once, just settled. Give me a break.


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RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? - 10/21/2011 4:07:51 PM   
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I hypothesize that overweight people tend to be more hedonistic in general though yes i recently read that 33% of americans adults are obese and another 33% are overweight. That means 66% of the general population. That would mean that if 70% of the party were overweight it would be right on target.

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RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? - 10/21/2011 4:09:12 PM   
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quote:

Sorry for any typos, I'm doing this from a mobile. Again I say nothing wrong with bigger women. It's not my cup of tea. There's men who like that sure. I however am not the only one who doesn't


Twisterdom: First allow me to say thank you for picking up the banner others before you handed down, your commitment to my Nation is appreciated and I respect and honor your effort.

Twister: I know quite a bit about military life, a bit more about nutrition and body conditioning and at 50 I know about the aging process too, so I relate to the sensitivity your question touched on however I do not find your question out of line.

Perhaps you have statically data supporting your thinking, perhaps not, but if you do please share it.

Twister I am not an old salt on this sit but this is not my first time around and I have observed many, many male and female D/s practitioners in clubs munches and bashes that were so far out of shape they looked like billboards for prospective heart attacks, kidney failure and hip and knee replacements, their ages appeared to be between 20 and 65 in most cases and clearly there are hordes of over fed bored housewives running from marriages appointing themselves the title dominant or submissive but don’t lose sight of the fact you are only looking and not buying everything advertised.

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RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? - 10/21/2011 4:09:50 PM   
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Wow defensive group you guys are. I meant no offense to anyone. I was just curious that is all. Maybe I'm wrong. I can admit not some scholar of the subject. I'm sure there are plus size women on here that find what they are searching for. Most people are programmed by tv. If u were to ask 10 men who would the choose between Kim kardashian or Kathy bates if they had a choice. Well isn't rocket science to figure that one out. what woman say that is 5-6 125 or so wakes up and says oh I really wish I was 185 or more. And yes I a fully capable of editing search settings. I was referring to the site as a whole


twistedom:
a few things here...
rape has nothing to do with attraction. it is about violence and power, and sadly, rape affects women of all sizes, ages and looks.

I haven't really looked, but I suppose there are a high percentage of plus-size women on this site. there are also lots of idiots on CollarMe, yet I don't believe BDSM attracts idiots. (I might be convinced otherwise...)  The average median ages on CollarMe tend to be between 30-50, and if you haven't reached that yet, well, here's a sneak preview: those pants you wore in college will likely never fit you again.

by the way--I'd take Kathy Bates ANY DAY of the week. She's strong, smart, funny, talented and does have sex appeal. (watch Harry's Law, much?)  Kim Kardashian makes me want to vomit. 

If you post inflammatory, grossly incorrect comments about rape and size, you can expect to get a lot of feedback, most of which you won't like very much. Suck it up, buttercup.

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RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? - 10/21/2011 4:16:24 PM   
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OP,

A tip. Don't ask that question again, in any BDSM community, anywhere. Some things you only ask of a partner or a very, very good friend of the opposite sex. That's it.

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RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? - 10/21/2011 4:17:31 PM   
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It was probably Ninon. Madame de Stael died
in her fifties, Ninon died in her eighties.
And it sounds more like Ninon and a
situation she could have found herself in.
Madame de Stael was plump by some
standards but it didn't keep her from
getting busy.
I have nothing to say to the OP the rape
remarks are apalling. I don't know if they
come from a place of sexist obliviousness
or trolly 'Aren't I adorable in my
assholeness?
And don't care.


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RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? - 10/21/2011 4:37:35 PM   
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Twisteddom, I can kind of see where you are coming from. The military demands that you stay thin and in shape, and you are coming here looking for a sub and having a WTF moment maybe every time you read female profiles. My sister and her previous hubby were Army people.

You are right that most of America is fat and/or not physically fit.

I have no problem with your personal preferences, it was the rape stuff that pushed my buttons. I agree with what others said here about it, and hope that you can understand some things...it is common for women who have been molested or raped as an adult to put on weight. Not that it will protect against being raped again, but for the comfort zone it provides. The last thing I wanted to hear was wolf whistles, comments about my DD breasts, my shapely legs, etc., so putting on some weight brought me some relief from this. Having less panic attacks triggered was a good thing.

Since I am on my sub's computer and not my own, I cannot get you an article I read about how some people also use BDSM for healing past injuries. D/s and kink pushes our buttons just as with other fellow kinksters who have never been attacked, but BDSM sometimes serves a dual purpose...to write over bad things from the past with someone we trust. This is why some women might be into rape fantasy, to make something ugly from the past lose it's power to give nightmares, night terrors, flashbacks, etc. With others, I think rape fantasy is just another thing that gets their panties wet because...yet another aspect of submission makes them hawt. Do I need to ask for a show of hands among male and female subs, to point out that BEING TAKEN and overwhelmed by someone they trust makes them wet (or gives them a boner)...?

As for myself, there is no way I can order my sub to "rape" me to rewrite over my distant past because my buttons are way too hot in a bad way. My PTSD would kick in so badly I'd might go feral and seriously injure him. Way back when I thought I was a sub, if restrained well enough, with someone who was excellent at aftercare, this rewriting over old ugly shiite might have been possible. Now it doesn't interest me to even try. There's more than one way to skin a cat. Yes, I have been using my sub to push some of my bad buttons, one being that I am not allowing him to shave off his facial hair to make things easier on me so that less panic attacks are triggered, instead I have taught him how I want him to behave when I am having one and this is working out fine.

I don't want to hear anything about therapy from anyone, as I already tried that route off and on for over 20 years and this is as good as it gets. My sub/boyfriend will do what I tell him to do and I will adjust better over time.

I have many valid medial reasons for being quite large (lymphoma four times, three old back fractures, two old hip fractures, four times...I'm a fair person and each leg got broken twice , as well as having had a baby, aged, knee injuries...one from a motorcycle accident, and have had different years of anti-anxiety meds) that made me put on weight. However, as much as I restrict my calorie intake, being a couch potato (doctor's orders) have helped me to pack the weight on. Some of us cannot afford gymn memberships, cannot do an hour long walk three times per week without ending up in some nursing care facility... I bought an exercize machine that I could afford, non electric and no digital gadgetry, that I feel will help my knees, upper body and metabolism...my sub has been clearing out my basement and will assemble it for me soon. I will never be thin, but at least I will become more physically fit without destroying my body in the process.

Now for the next things to clear up.

Thin women are great to look at, granted. Some people's bodies are like looking at...art in motion. I cannot blame people for appreciating a work of art, whether in a waitress, stripper, or even some beach bunny. Long time ago before I had my son, my body was a work of art too and I was hassled night and day by horny, appreciative men. However...if you think for even one moment that women have a problem getting laid...think again. Even through years of celibacy all kinds of men tried to get into my size 3X pants. The husbands of friends, guys in bars, at laundromats, grocery stores, in libraries, while I was taking my kid to a park... This was in vanilla. From the Domme side, huge as I am I have never had any trouble getting subs...and sometimes we are taling about young hunky ones in their twenties and thirties, physically fit and art in motion. Even when I advertise that I am taken, own a sub and am not looking for a third person, the guys keep writing. One from this week lives only 20 minutes away and is hunky and in his low twenties. See...if I were into swinging I could have dick from at least a hundred different guys per year. I know this may be hard to grasp...fat chicks can have as much dick as they want...mkay? When I came here soon after my birthday when I turned 39, I averaged 100+ letters in my mailbox per week and guys that visited me were often from out of state (this was still during my celibate years, but I was still enjoying meetups and limited scenes as well as limited r/t D/s relationships). If there are not enough men in our area, they will take a car, bus, plane or train to see us. No need to feel sorry for those of us who are fat and not attractive to some. At the same time, I am capable of feeling for not having the same body I had at 20...but I love what the years have molded me into even if the outer packaging is not what I'd like.

Btw, the young thin pretty women are primo and can have their pick of the young, fit, hunky guys with great jobs, great house and fancy cars. LOL, have you read enough profiles to see the younger wimmins complaining about men who could be their dad or grandpa hitting on them?

There is a difference between some fantasies and real life, and it offended me, the insinuation that fat chicks would be grateful if someone raped them. Rapes drove me to celibacy for years and left me with PTSD that no shrink or meds can make go away. Believe me, if I wanted some fantasy rape scene, it would be HAWT as Hell and nothing like what really happened. My sub knows better than to even let a show on tv continue to play if a rape scene or worse is playing...the channel is changed or the tv goes off ASAP. When I was young, yes I had some "rape" fantasies, but they were more about being overpowered by someone wonderful who was doing wonderful things to me, where my conscience was gagged and... Unlike the real thing, there was no real violence, horrible feelings, fear of death or disease, or being totally degraded by someone who didn't care about me at all. My stupid dreams did not involve feeling seige mentality afterward, that every smiling man could morph from Dr. Jeckyll into Mr. Hyde (to H with spelling those names correctly), and that having boundaries people would respect was just...an illusion. Btw...because of past rapes...I have NEVER had an orgasm during vanilla type sex. I need a vibe on my clit or nothing happens. N-O-T-H-I-N-G. Any more talk going to happen about how grateful fat chicks are to get raped? There is a world of difference between making love and being used as some stranger's slop jar.

Btw AGAIN. I was drawn into this lifestyle kicking and screaming, because of my past history. I misunderstood what this was all about and was horrified that this had any fascination for me until I saw past the roleplay and sadomasochism...and learned about the deepest trust I had ever known. Yes, I also tried to leave a good dozen times while I was struggling with issues. My boy feels blessed that I stayed. And found him eventually.

If you are Dom, who cares if the sub you find is out of shape and a bit overweight? Take her for walks with you, and gradually make changes so that she has a more healthy diet...and I don't mean "diet food", I am talking about decent meat, whole grain bread or pasta, a wide variety of raw veggies and fruit to snack on, and good quality cheese or other dairy. I am sure she will like kneeling at your feet while you hand feed her rather than going to some drive through McBurger. Hell's bells...if she sticks to her modest exercize routine for the entire week...reward her in a way that makes her feel great about herself and increases her hero worship of you. Check with her doctor and work together as a unit and not cause her to injure herself while trying to please you. My mother stopped exercizing for years because of exhaustion, and had to find out on her own after her divorce that she was anemic and needed shots for several years. Myself, I become exhausted over the winter if I do not have Vitamin D capsules. Becoming more physically active can be fun, and not just a chore, especially if it is time spent together and gives positive reinforcement, but health issues must be looked into first.

Look, if I can take a guy and decide how his hair is cut, put him on a daily vitamin for men over 50 (after checking with his doctor), and have him do crunches when his hiatal hernia isn't acting up so that he looks better in a loin cloth for the Halloween party (three munch groups together), and change his diet a teeny bit so that he has gradually lost a wee bit of weight (not for my benefit, but for his own ego), then you should have no problem with the overweight women here. My sub is glowing with better health, and joy...so much that his family have all noticed and love me to pieces for being such a good caretaker of what is MINE. (My sub now wears men's size medium, and in jeans has a 31 inch waist. I will need to take a new pic of him for his profile soon.)

My own recovery will take longer, will involve exercize machines in my basement while playing music, and probably sometime next year, knee surgery to scrape cartilige. My cholesterol and triglycerides are excellent, lol, so how unfair is that?


Good luck with your knees. Almost everyone I have known who served in the armed forces for years gets their knees goofed up.

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RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? - 10/21/2011 5:19:35 PM   
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"Im a bbw and proud of it"

Because the unhealthy medical condition of morbid obesity is not only sexy, but something to take pride in.



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RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? - 10/21/2011 5:22:05 PM   
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I think most people drawn to BDSM have some sort of internal angst. Sometimes mild, sometimes severe, but.basically a subconscious itch that BDSM scratches.    And it just so happens that another very common way of dealing with internal angst is over-eating.   Combine that with basic hedonistic tendencies, and you'll find a prevalence of larger folks in the lifestyle compared to the general population. Especially as it is so accepting of all types.   That is my theory anyway.

I also think there was a bit of over-reaction here to the OP.   Everything he said was put in very general terms, "a lot of", "in general", "many", etc., but that is not how people read it.  It was all taken as absolutes and personal judgement.

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RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? - 10/21/2011 5:24:18 PM   
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you promised you wouldn't bring that up again...



I was the one who had to clean up the mess

Do you know how difficult it is to dig a hole in the back yard at 2am in the middle of winter?


Uhmmm...no...no...of course I don't. Why would I know something like that? (why don't we have a whistles innocently smiley?)

Psst, blushy... we do! ~ >

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RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? - 10/21/2011 5:30:44 PM   
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You know OP for someone who doesn't mean to offend you sure did a good job of it. Here's a tip, limit the weight requirement and you won't have to look at those profiles.

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RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? - 10/21/2011 5:40:37 PM   
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people drawn to BDSM have some sort of internal angst
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RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? - 10/21/2011 5:40:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AbsoluteOverlord

"Im a bbw and proud of it"

Because the unhealthy medical condition of morbid obesity is not only sexy, but something to take pride in.



They need a master alright, A Stairmaster.


Define "unhealthy".

I don't have diabetes (or even pre-diabetes), have good cholesterol levels, a healthy thyroid and completed two half-marathons this year (the Disney Princess Half Marathon in February and the Disneyland Half Marathon this past September). AND I'm considered morbidly obese.

My doctor isn't all that concerned with my weight, and since I'm not trying to fuck you, it shouldn't be your concern either.

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RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? - 10/21/2011 5:56:05 PM   
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Actually my housemate is a size 6, 110 pounds an shes desperate to put on weight, her clothes look awful on her, she looks gaunt and sick and she's physically trying to force feed herself more calories... so yes there are those women out there too. Guess theres nowt as queer as folk eh?


I like this one too! We can haz keeps her?


nodnod yeah I like her too I think we should keep her.


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RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? - 10/21/2011 6:03:43 PM   
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Twisteddom, I can kind of see where you are coming from. The military demands that you stay thin and in shape, and you are coming here looking for a sub and having a WTF moment maybe every time you read female profiles. My sister and her previous hubby were Army people.

from a previous link- I found this sorta interesting...
"In the military
An estimated sixteen percent of active duty U.S. military personnel were obese in 2004, with the cost of remedial bariatric surgery for the military reaching $15 million in 2002. Obesity is currently the largest single cause for the discharge of uniformed personnel.
In 2005, 9 million adults of ages 17 to 24, or 27%, were too overweight to be considered for service in the military."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_america#Prevalence_by_state



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RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? - 10/21/2011 7:03:52 PM   
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just give the fuck up man. close your fucking profile, make a new one and start all the fuck over. nobody recovers from a fucking fat thread, it just can't be done.





I wasn't going to respond to this thread at all simply because we have all seen it a million times before and it never ends well for many reasons, I was just reading for the entertainment value... but this-this made me laugh out loud! Thank you, Hannah and to speak your language- you made my fucking night!

On another note, since I am already here and commenting anyway, there are reasons these threads can seem insulting. Insinuating that anyone is here for any other reason than a true WANT to be here as opposed to a NEED to be here because they can't get anything 'better' both insults the individual, saying they aren’t good enough to find someone- AND the BDSM community as a whole. Why should you think that we here want people that no one else would want (not saying that no one wants a BBW but that’s what is being insinuated here.) Or that we are people to be settled for because someone couldn't find a match someplace else?

And to answer the question, though I've never much paid attention, there may be a lot of BBWs in BDSM, there also a lot of big men as well but that has nothing to do with BDSM and everything to do with the national health crisis. We are seeing more overweight people EVERYWHERE so it’s little wonder you are seeing more in BDSM because those statistics would carry over.
 
As far as the rape thing is concerned, yeah I am not even going to touch that little bit of idiocy… sorry that was just insensitive and off base not to mention completely incorrect (ok so maybe I had something to say on the matter…)
 
 
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RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? - 10/21/2011 7:09:49 PM   
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Unless I missed it (if I did I apologize) but I don't happen to see any posts that point out one big thing here and that is that is doesn't matter what size you are or aren't. "Fat" chicks can like to be submissive like any "thin" person, they can like pain, they can even be a Mistress (I thank you). The size of a girl doesn't stop her from being a damn good sub/slave...she'll still follow directions, do what you need, and many of them are actually quite flexible so don't use the whole "fat gets in the way" crap.

I think it's rude and ignorant to think that the girl MUST have psychological issues to want to be a sub if she's "fat". She could be better off than the thin girl down the street who looks hot and yet you never stopped to think that she was brought up in an abusive family which fucked her up emotionally. Not all big people have emotional issues. I also have a medical condition which makes it so I have a very hard time losing weight BUT I'm in Martial Arts and am going to be getting my black belt soon...I'm healthy and active.

As for rape, just so you know, my sister is way bigger than me and was raped. My cousin is over 300 lbs and was raped. It does happen.

I'd also like to say I've never had a problem getting guys and neither has my 300 lbs cousin. There are plenty of men who like bigger ladies out there. I know men who prefer bigger women.

If you aren't attracted to bigger women then fine that's all you but don't assume. Don't assume we're fat because we can't stop eating, don't assume we can't get guys, don't assume that we aren't fit to be a sub/slave/Mistress or what have you just because of our size, and don't assume that we aren't targeted like any other women out there for rape. I think you'd do well to have some plump women at least as friends to open your eyes to reality and put you in your place.

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RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? - 10/21/2011 7:24:41 PM   
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I've never had a problem with being either a submissive or a Domme, even though I'm "fat." Both male Doms and male subs still write to me. As a matter of fact, the number of male subs I get in my inbox really does surprise me sometimes. lol I may be a fat woman in her 50s, but I still have no problems there. Sure some of their letters are dick-centric, but not all.

For someone to say that fat automatically makes a person unable to either submit or be a Domme is blatant stupidity to say nothing of being bigoted. The idea that fat women "settle" because they have to is ridiculous. I'm picky. HA!! There are guys out there that love us for who we are inside rather than just the outer package, AND guys that - OMG - actually prefer larger ladies.

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