Casteele
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Joined: 12/10/2011 From: Near Sacramento, California, USA Status: offline
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FR I see so many people who use the "Freedom of Speech" banner as a protection, when it seems more to me that what they are really saying is "Freedom to be Stupid and not held Accountable for such Stupidity." There are limits on freedom of speech. To quote the Wikipedia article on Freedom of Speech, in regards to the "Limitations" section: quote:
According to the Freedom Forum Organization, legal systems, and society at large, recognize limits on the freedom of speech, particularly when freedom of speech conflicts with other values or rights. Limitations to freedom of speech may follow the "harm principle" or the "offense principle", for example in the case of pornography or hate speech. Limitations to freedom of speech may occur through legal sanction or social disapprobation, or both. Or as my father was often fond of saying: "The right and freedom to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins." Personally, I like the rough play and I have forced sex fantasies (I dislike calling them rape fantasies, for reasons that should be obvious). I am careful to explain what about them draws me, and what the limits are. There is definitely a lot of gray area in between what I feel is right and wrong, acceptable and unacceptable, but not so much between what is safe, sane and consensual and what is not.The survey, to me, is clearly wrong and inappropriate, especially on a college campus. (I would even question it on a forum such as CM.) It is clearly promoting the idea that it is socially acceptable and okay to force someone against their will, and some would feel it even encourages it. "But officer, she was listed 150 times on the 'like to rape list,' so it must be okay because everyone wants to rape her!" WTF? It promotes causing harm and the destruction of another persons identity, safety and security. It violates THEIR rights, so no, I do not believe one bit that this would in any way fall under the "Freedom of Speech," "harmless prank," or even the "Dumb college kids doing dumb things" umbrellas. Even if there were no legal issues (which there are, at least in the US where this happened), if I were the college, I would still toss them out on their asses as they are clearly too immature and stupid to belong in college.
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