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RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... - 1/16/2012 1:48:47 PM   
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Frosted Flake, instead of making vague generalizations, please state clearly where your dissatisfaction lies


What vague? Where?

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RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... - 1/16/2012 1:55:26 PM   
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quote:

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Frosted Flake, instead of making vague generalizations, please state clearly where your dissatisfaction lies


What vague? Where?



"Restating a disrespected question, even doing so repeatedly, is not obsession. Calling it obsession does not answer the question, instead, it begs the question be restated. And while the snow outside my window does not affect me, it is just outside. By the same token, were Owen Wilson to leap from a giant cake to proposition a kitty litter consumer, that would not affect me, in the slightest, yet I would be... what is the word I want to use here?

In that I have learned a thing or two, this thread has been productive. But there has been more heat than light. And some of that heat was repetitive."


There.

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RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... - 1/16/2012 2:09:03 PM   
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Hmmm, it's just like an original old gaystar told me 15 years ago. He was majorly pissed of at the gay scene. Claiming being gay became hip in Amsterdam, but most of the younger guys were not gay at all. It is just hip. A trend, a trending topic(barf)twittertwat let me barf again.
So it is in bdsm. Its a trend, its popular, everybody wants to be a little kinky. If I was a smart pro, I would turn to this scene and suck it dry.
Cause really. Are we here talkin about moral, here?
Most people in the regular world are bloodsuckin leaches, when you give em a chance.
Why would a scene that glorifies humiliation, degradation, perversion etc. be expected to have the higher moral ground?
Most findoms are fake and just in it for the money.
Sure you have pro dommes. But really, would a real pro ever ask for tribute or call herself a findomme. No she wants cold hard cash!!! Just like any self respecting whore.
Oh and the word tribute is so moronic.
The romans had to pay tribute to the huns.
If the romans didnt pay, they would get murdered, their cities would be burned.Their women would get raped and enslaved.
WTF are you gonna do when paypiggie doesnt pay.
Are you gonna shoot em?

The only thing you are really raping is language. Cause how the fuck is it rape when the one gettin raped enjoys it.
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RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... - 1/16/2012 2:32:00 PM   
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I had a feeling this was going to come back to the "shes just a prostitute" thing. It always makes me wonder if people really know what that word means. If you remove the gender from the issue and say that a prostitute is a person who deliberately debases his or her talents (for money) than a load of people fall under the title of prostitute. And (IMO) someone who can talk another person into giving them money for no other reason than it makes them feel good really isn't debasing their talent (how many politicians do you know), unless it is a talent for laying on their back....because that they aren't actually doing. I would also like to point out that by this manner of judgement anyone that is not living up to their potential is a prostitute. Thats right kids if you went to college for a degree in english and you flip burgers to pay your bills YOU are a prostitute.



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RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... - 1/16/2012 2:47:17 PM   
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Sure there's people who pay hookers just to talk to them.
There's bound to be people who say bdsm is not about sex.
There is nothing debasing about selling your body if this is your choice.
And yes politicians, bankers and lawyers are the scum of the earth.
In comparison, whores are saints.

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RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... - 1/16/2012 2:48:48 PM   
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In that so many are blatantly and strongly bias against financial domination why would one want to voluntarily jump into that shark infested pool. It's not as if such entrenched bias would change... mostly just feed the hunger of the sharks looking for something extra to close their jaws upon.

I do not see need for one to discuss or reveal finer details. Either one is acceptive to generalized aspects or they are not. Most who are curious have not ventured into such territory and tend to identify with the negatives of such. Revelation of specifics will not change such biased and entrenched mindset. Seldom happens in politics, religion or polarized topics such as this.

For example to say there is no difference between a financial Domme and a prostitute is to say there is no difference between a professional Domme and a prostitute. Perchance that is true, but also not something i give thought to and thus do not see a financial Domme as any higher or lower on a scale. There are varying degrees of character attributes and integrities in any and every profession. Financial Dommes are no different. Problem i see is too many newbies jump into it in belief it is easy money, a easy score. I do not view them as true Dommmes and indeed see that they give true financial Dommes a bad rap. They create so that mainstream readily identify with the negatives. Those that are rip off artists also are typically easy to identify. Common sense, gut instinct, focus to expectations and two primary traits are my initial guidelines to avoid scammers. Any sensible person can develop their own guidelines, same as they would in submitting in-person.

In interacting with skilled, experienced financial Dommes i never felt ripped off, never was scammed. Although my interests where psychological and physical, fact is the money Dommes i interacted with mostly fulfilled my cravings and needs. Managed to create fear, intensities, intense power exchange and a number of mind fucks. They put their full essence into it , were clever, dedicated and imaginative. I have been pained, marked, denied, humiliated, controlled to surprising satisfaction. I have experienced some in-person sessions that did not achieve that. I have experienced a few in-person sessions where i felt more scammed than i ever was with a online financial Domme. My longest in-person power exchange relationship was three years, longest online relationship four years. Obviously i prefer in-person and my greatest sessions and most intense experiences mostly have been in-person. But still i would never, ever belittle the skill, integrity and respect for the four wonderful financial Dommes i served. They were all with integrity and more than generous of themselves. Indeed with Goddess She on one occasion protected me from a careless decision i was about to make, has provided advice and demonstrated much generosity despite Her greed and love for money and the power of control it symbolizes.

If i partook with obvious newbies, fakes or scammers obviously my viewpoint would be different. In that i did not and do not makes so my experiences and viewpoint is equally valid and perhaps more so. As such i only wish to convey... as in any segment of society or occupation, or trade... there is the awesome, there is the good, there is the bad and there is the ugly. They can not all be lumped together as one!

There was mention of blackmail and how it is illegal. That comment made me chuckle in its truth and naivety. Activities deemed illegal happen in all walks of life. BM can be consensual and/or it can be subliminal. Little minor incidents can be BM and yet not constitute a illegality that will be pursued. I have found myself naively progressing through steps or to be cleverly maneuvered into a situation and to have it used against me or used to further subdue me. I do not subscribe to BM and it is one of the few limits i was able to maintain.... yet in essence and small ways it absolute happened. Although something i am against i found it powerful and found myself bending to it. Sometimes knowingly sometimes not. The world and power exchange do not exist in a universe of black and white. There is much varying degrees of grey area and much flux. The mind and emotions are very powerful combination.... sometimes surprising the journey they combine to take one upon!


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RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... - 1/16/2012 2:55:15 PM   
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You'd think people looking to explore fetishes would be more open-minded to others.

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RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... - 1/16/2012 3:02:14 PM   
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BANG-ON!!! Absolutely... Exactly!!! Good call Queen Luna, my sentiments exactly!

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RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... - 1/16/2012 3:10:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: QueenLuna

You'd think people looking to explore fetishes would be more open-minded to others.

Why would you think that?  People are people.  Just because they like something kinky doesn't mean that they'll be any more or less open minded than the rest of the population.


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RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... - 1/16/2012 3:18:55 PM   
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In being kinky as opposed to vanilla... being esoteric instead of mainstream, venturing outside what many would consider the norm of society. Those aspects to me convey we should be more open minded, more understanding/acceptive and less judgmental to greater degree than mainstream. Whereas those of vanilla persuasion my not comprehend our kinks, activities, lifestyle; those of us that partake most certainly should. A few years ago i would venture to opinion even more so, however today sm/bd, power exchange is morphing to greater degree with the vanilla.

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RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... - 1/16/2012 3:23:49 PM   
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Being open minded doesnt mean I accept and respect every little fuck in this world.
If you enjoy what you do NibbyJibby that's cool with me. If you think financial domination enhances your life, good for you.
But it's obvious there's a lot of little bitches on this site just interested with money.
Why otherwise would this thread be poppin up every week?
Again I am not saying all pro's are fake.
And why is it pro dommes cant be compared with prostitutes?
Hittin to close to home?
Ah well maybe pro dommes are not in the sexbiz at all.
Maybe they are just like lawyers, bankers and politicians who fuck you over, take your money and beat you in the process?
You choose wich side you are on.
It's all about the money, it's all about the domdomdomdididomdomme.
Thanks for the fun, been some time since I laughed out loud.

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RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... - 1/16/2012 3:26:38 PM   
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Thank you, NJ. I don't expect everyone to be as open minded as you are. I really don't.

Many claim to want "information". They claim they are not getting enough of it, but then in the same breath call what I do, prostitution, being a whore, a scam artist... really? And I (or any other lady who practices findom) should give anyone any information now or in the future because?

Hint: the person you've been talking to is a person first, and a findom second.

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RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... - 1/16/2012 3:27:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NibbyJibby

Those aspects to me convey we should be more open minded, more understanding/acceptive and less judgmental to greater degree than mainstream.

Whether you feel we should be or not, we aren't.  A quick trip through these forums on any given day illustrates that fact in technicolor.


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RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... - 1/16/2012 3:28:00 PM   
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That has little if anything to do with what I said. Almost everyone on the planet has at one point or another "protituted" themself for something. As to the whole open minded thing. I have been a findom but don't look kindly at people into pedophilia. Everyone has an opinion and everyone has a right to theirs as long as they do not force others to abide by it.

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RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... - 1/16/2012 4:00:44 PM   
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In what way can you ever have a clean cut discussion if you say everybody "prostitutes" themselves in some way...
Like I said I have a lot more respect for a whore than a lawyer. So should I call lawyers killers now to exceed the determination of the profession. How can you ever determine anything if designated words are used in this way?
So now you called my mother a whore.
Thanks very much
Reminds me of my ex.
Pornstars, whores and prodommes I can put in one category.
But again maybe some dommes never do sex.
Still I see em all with big strapons and shit, maybe they're just stirring batter with those shlongs, I don't know,
I am openminded. 

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RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... - 1/16/2012 4:11:13 PM   
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How can you comment about someone abusing the language if you don't use it the correct way to begin with? I'm really happy you can put pornstars, whores, and prodommes in one category...thats cool. I can pretty much for the most part put every human into one category(maybe two on a bad day) As for that comment about me reminding you of the ex...cool. I'm sure you are happier without her, or him, or whatever. As to your mother ....I said almost everyone. If you feel you have to argue with me at least get what I said right, please, and thank you.

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RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... - 1/16/2012 4:11:57 PM   
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Well, since everyone is entitled to opinions, even if that isn't my cup of tea...Lets say findomme is prostitution. Hypothetically. What are you going to do about it? There going to keep sending money and i'm going to keep spending it. The real question is why more Domme's, especially, Fin Domme's don't raid this forum with more posts complaining about the rude and malicious messages sent from Dom's. Or the general disregard for our personal sovereignty in this realm of kink, no, I don't care what you have to say and don't find you attractive; so stop sending messages it goes in the same spam box as all the other whimpering wanking men.

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RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... - 1/16/2012 4:22:42 PM   
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Sure there's people who pay hookers just to talk to them.
I highly doubt that, just like I doubt anyone goes to a barber just to talk to them.

There's bound to be people who say bdsm is not about sex.
There are those who don't consider it bdsm unless they get off in some way. There are others who don't have to involve sex at all. Then there are some, like me, who enjoy playing with others but only have sex with their primary partner. It just depends on the relationship.

There is nothing debasing about selling your body if this is your choice.
And yet so many on these boards talk about prostitutes like they are scum.

And yes politicians, bankers and lawyers are the scum of the earth.
In comparison, whores are saints.



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RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... - 1/16/2012 4:49:16 PM   
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In what way do I use english incorrect? It's not even my native language, but I do express my view pretty damn clear. If it ain't your cuppa tea, that's fine with me. You're the kind that would say you can't compare apples with pears. I say it's both fruit.
And Luna? I never send you a message, what are you talkin about? So now you resort to lying to try to let people believe I would send you mail. Funny and pathetic in one go. Like I care for my reputation here. It's you who obviously are concerned with keepin up appearances.
And what I am gonna do about findom?
Nothing more then I have posted here.
And like I said in the other thread keep spending it please. The economy is still in dire need of people spending.
Do you really think I give a fuck you empty the pockets of paypiggies.
Go for it.
Admit your greedy nature.
Very good.
Keep the thread going and more people will read of your divine conception of the truth.


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RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... - 1/16/2012 5:04:40 PM   
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Laughter is good... medicine for the soul. Cool you feel better!

I agree one should not accept and respect every aspect. I do not do such in politics and certainly not in life, business or my esoteric activities. That being said I do however believe we can keep a open mind to other aspects. That does not make so one must agree nor to compromise ones own values. Just makes so i believe one should not prejudge with a closed mind.

True there are numerous money seekers online in hope for a easy score and presumably easy money. As in all walks of life a number of scammers also. As for the pros and prostitutes i do not compare one as being higher or lower on the scale than the other nor to see any as a negative nor positive. Heck, who the hell am i to judge! Mostly i view financial Domes, professional Dommes and prostitutes as self employed individuals same as therapists, accountants, tradespeople, etc. All provide a skill or service to make a living. The more skilled and sincere perchance make better living than those who are less so. Survival of the fittest. Although i have never obtained the services of a prostitute i remain not to judge and certainly not to judge lower on some arbitrary scale.

Shall contradict myself with a double edged sword comment. For myself i do not see pro dominants as being the same as prostitutes in that typically sex is not involved. Just my personal opinion. That being said fact remains that power exchange can be a sexual experience. The act of flogging, humiliation, control, even financial. Of course the other similarity and the one you highlight is the money aspect. Perchance that similarity for some does make so they are all one and the same... but at end of the day what does it matter which side of the coin... and who really gives a rats ass. My premise being who are we to judge and if partaking of the lifestyle, why can we not be more open minded than generic Jane or generic Joe.

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