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RE: A serious discussion about cuckolding - 3/5/2012 4:03:17 PM   
LunaM


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Agreed. Masters can ask but they have to respect their subs as humans as well that have thoughts and feelings. As Raspberry Lemon said she would feel less worthy and degraded and I see her point in this. The feeling would bring me to think that he is looking for something more than I can give him and if this is the case then I need to be moving on since our relationship is no longer fulfilling for either of us.
I couldn't agree more with Lemon's view on exclusive fulfillment. If I get everything I need from my Master and he gets everything he needs from me, then it is not benefical or logical to bring another person into a dynamic that is working just fine.

Yes, yes, exactly! I am one that has handed over complete control and authority to my Master, in other words blanket consent to whatever he wants, the one stipulation is that he must be responsible with me--he is to not use this power in an abusive manner, which means avoiding damaging me emotionally or physically. Thankfully he cares about me and loves me and thus I can trust his discretion and that he always has my best interests in mind.

I particularly like the way you phrased this: "The feeling would bring me to think that he is looking for something more than I can give him and if this is the case then I need to be moving on since our relationship is no longer fulfilling for either of us." That's exactly how it is for me. If I am not exclusively "good enough" for him, then we are not compatible. I am very thankful to be with a man who is indeed compatible with me, and to me that exclusive fulfillment is an essential part of how I express my love and affections to my Master.




I enjoy that we echo each other and understand what the other means

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RE: A serious discussion about cuckolding - 3/5/2012 4:28:07 PM   
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I enjoy that we echo each other and understand what the other means

It's always nice to meet a like-minded individual. :)

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RE: A serious discussion about cuckolding - 3/5/2012 4:42:31 PM   
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FR

Biology's not my field. Still, I'd read of something like this:

"The volume of ejaculate is subconsciously controlled by a man, and is dependent upon the perceived likelihood of other males potentially mating with his partner. "

from http://www.reasoned.org/rs_text7.htm

(Lots of other stuff in there about aggressive and defensive sperm. Quite interesting.)

Anyway, so I guess the obvious hypothesis is that there might a tendency for the notion of cuckolding to be a turn-on for a male because it gets the old bullet factory down below working at wartime production-rates.

I wish I could add more to this thread. However, it does feel so abstract for me because, like Roch, I can't conceive of cuckolding outside of a settled relationship (in which one half of said relationship wants to bring in a third party). I can stretch my imagination to lots of sexual acts, but I can't, at present, stretch it to picture a settled relationship with a given, real-life, woman and how I'd feel in that.


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RE: A serious discussion about cuckolding - 3/5/2012 4:45:30 PM   
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The fact that you researched that impresses me.

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RE: A serious discussion about cuckolding - 3/5/2012 4:49:44 PM   
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Oh! Thank you. Not really research, though - just something I remembered, then a quick bit of Googling.

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RE: A serious discussion about cuckolding - 3/5/2012 4:51:11 PM   
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You remember some deeply peculiar things, Darling.

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RE: A serious discussion about cuckolding - 3/5/2012 4:54:00 PM   
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Oh! Thank you. Not really research, though - just something I remembered, then a quick bit of Googling.



Google is your friend. I use google frequently as I hate to post "What does (insert term) mean?" and have someone bring up a Google link, to which I inwardly kick myself for not doing that before.
As well as thats an interesting thing to remember, but I remember odd things too.

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RE: A serious discussion about cuckolding - 3/5/2012 4:57:00 PM   
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You remember some deeply peculiar things, Darling.


Thank you.

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RE: A serious discussion about cuckolding - 3/5/2012 4:57:04 PM   
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Luna, I am LOVING your bite mark!

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RE: A serious discussion about cuckolding - 3/5/2012 5:00:54 PM   
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Luna, I am LOVING your bite mark!


Thank you, LadyHibiscus. I love it too. My master does too.

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RE: A serious discussion about cuckolding - 3/5/2012 5:19:38 PM   
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Google is your friend. I use google frequently as I hate to post "What does (insert term) mean?" and have someone bring up a Google link, to which I inwardly kick myself for not doing that before.
As well as thats an interesting thing to remember, but I remember odd things too.

Do you happen to have a brother that is exactly like you?  I might be in love.


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RE: A serious discussion about cuckolding - 3/5/2012 5:35:03 PM   
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i second the loving the bite mark!

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RE: A serious discussion about cuckolding - 3/5/2012 5:52:38 PM   
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I'm actually confused about your current status. I read a comment in another thread in which you mentioned being in Alaska. When did that happen? You move around too much. You're confusing me. I seem to remember that you lived in Georgia (or somewhere in the Southeast), but I also connect you to somewhere in California (Sacramento maybe?), but then I also seem to remember you being somewhere like Kansas or Idaho.

Would you mind terribly if I send you a private email to explain the above?  It's not that I don't want to answer this, it's that I would feel better about not *publicly* posting the answer.  Thank you.

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Also, why isn't your relationship a cuck relationship anymore? Don't you still have a poly household? Where's Chip (or was it Clip?)? What did I miss?

Being poly and cuckholding are *not* the same thing.  Again, I would be very interested in discussing the finer details through private message.

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That's what I was trying to express. So much of cuckolding (when done properly) is mental. It's not an activity. It's a mental state. The cuckold is a cuckold not because of any activity you do. Rather, he's a cuckold because of the control that you exercise, and the mental state that it places him in.

Yes!  You get it!  The whole point is that it is NOT about the fucking.  I could do that being single.  However, I would not say that it is all mental.  Part of it is emotional and there is a technical difference.

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The guys who beg to be cucked don't seem to realize that by begging for it, they've taken away key elements of your power and control.

Precisely!  Remember what I said about the ones who feel like it has to be connected to BBC?  Same thing.

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I guess that non-forced cuckolding can be enjoyable for some guys (why else would they be begging for it?). However, that type of cuckolding seems more like a low-end substitute version of cuckolding. Kind of like what Taco Bell is to Mexican food.

Some are just made for it, dear.  It's just the right set up.  The right ones aren't those who beg for it. 


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Interesting concept about fear being the driver versus jealousy. I hadn't thought of it that way before.

Jealousy is really not a primary emotion.  You learned that, but it's not primal.  Fear is primal.  It is what we use to keep ourselves safe.  It is a defense mechanism.
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I haven't evolved to the point where I can actually watch her orgasm. But knowing that she is incredibly happy and fulfilled, and that my acceptance of a cuckold role help her to achieve her happiness is very satisfying.


Side stepping this because I'm not trying to write porn!!!

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And that's exactly the female perspective that I was curious about, and hoped to gain a greater understanding of. Thanks for sharing. I hope other Dommes who enjoy cuckolding their male subs will chime in.


Yes.
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Can I watch?

No, but if you are a really, really good boy, I'll let you shampoo My hair.


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RE: A serious discussion about cuckolding - 3/5/2012 6:26:16 PM   
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I need a blue box on my head.

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RE: A serious discussion about cuckolding - 3/5/2012 6:43:15 PM   
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No you don't JJ, it would mask the glow.

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RE: A serious discussion about cuckolding - 3/5/2012 7:05:16 PM   
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No you don't JJ, it would mask the glow.


That is not ONLY an excellent point, but one of the MANY reasons why you sit in the BIG chair!

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RE: A serious discussion about cuckolding - 3/5/2012 7:19:44 PM   
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That's why I picked you, JJ!

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RE: A serious discussion about cuckolding - 3/6/2012 6:40:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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Google is your friend. I use google frequently as I hate to post "What does (insert term) mean?" and have someone bring up a Google link, to which I inwardly kick myself for not doing that before.
As well as thats an interesting thing to remember, but I remember odd things too.

Do you happen to have a brother that is exactly like you?  I might be in love.




No, but I do have a sister.
I love your profile picture. That corset is gorgeous.

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RE: A serious discussion about cuckolding - 3/6/2012 6:42:49 AM   
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i second the loving the bite mark!



Thank you :) I do enjoy biting.

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RE: A serious discussion about cuckolding - 3/6/2012 7:21:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: LunaM

Google is your friend. I use google frequently as I hate to post "What does (insert term) mean?" and have someone bring up a Google link, to which I inwardly kick myself for not doing that before.
As well as thats an interesting thing to remember, but I remember odd things too.

Do you happen to have a brother that is exactly like you?  I might be in love.



When I see someone ask a question that could easily be answered with a quick google search, I'll go to this "let me google that for you" site.
You tell it what you're searching for, and it will give you a link to a web page that will show you how to google it.
Like, I just did it for "cuckold", http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cuckold
Just something fun to do when I feel like being a smart ass.

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