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Because that's how that gansta plays the race card hisself, homes. Knowwamsayin?

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Now your making shit up to back up your reasoning. The poster in question never mentioned Zimmermans colour, not once not ever. (Ice and Skittles thread) What was pointed out, by many of us, was Zimmermans preconcieved notion the black kid was up to no good. I would like to know how stating something that Zimmerman clearly said can be construed by yourself as "playing the race card"

Bullshit. Now you're just guilty of selective reading because you don't agree with my position. How sad. The poster in question based her entire point on the fact that Martin was profiled because he was black and that Zimmerman wasn't arrested because he was white (neither of which as true of course as he *was* arrested and was *not* white, but hispanic). This of course means she was jumping to conclusions and......playing the race card.

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Because that's how that gansta plays the race card hisself, homes. Knowwamsayin?

You do know the words is holmes, not homes, right?

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Because that's how that gansta plays the race card hisself, homes. Knowwamsayin?

You do know the words is holmes, not homes, right?

You sure, dawg?

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Wrong they do keep arrest records, not a conviction but it is record.

And in a country where a person is innocent until proven guilty, an arrest record is just that and only that -- a record of arrest. He was convicted of no crime.

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As to Martin school record, his last suspension was for allegedly carrying a plastic bag containing marihuana residue,

No no. No need to use the word "allegedly" in reference to why he was suspended. He *was* suspended and the reason for the suspension stands as a matter of his record. You say the tests were negative. So? There are drug users and junkies who clean their urine before a piss test. Doesn't meant they aren't junkies. Just means they know how not to get caught.

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Another was he was carrying a screw driver, alleged burgury tool..gee I have about 7 screws driver, this is old cheap trick police use to justifiy arresting someone, The courts have ruled this illegal.

But you'll still let us know when you successfully manage to board a plane with one, yes? Schools set their own rules. This is nothing new.

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Martin was observed in a restricted area, and with other who the school alleged were graffting walls, no graffty was found. And finally he was suspended for tardiness. I was suspended in High School as well. These hardly compare if at all

It's still a record and a more recent one than Zimmerman's convictionless record at that.

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you need a firearm to go to the store?)

You continuing to state this is a lame diversion attempt at best. You don't get to decide where a legally-armed citizen can carry his firearm. Criminals carry wherever they wish, without regard to the laws. CHL holders certainly can carry where they wish, in case one of those criminals finds them out somewhere and thinks they are an easy target.

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Walking around looking at the houses, Martin was staying with the girlfriend of his father, who lives there, walking around hardly a criminal activity and the Superme Court ruled it was not criminal conduct.

Looking at? So he was house shopping now? I'd think a neighborhood watch volunteer would A) know who lives in his area and who does not and B) be able to discern on his own who looks suspicious and who does not.

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Thank you, the above is just an assumption of why that poster held certain views. She never mentioned the word "white" as you claimed, so I stick by my earlier point that your view of her post is racist as it is (as shown above) based on her colour.

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Well as I said the "School tested the bag and the test proved negative, that is the schools claim, Martin was not tested. Martin was never arrested for any crime.

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The neighborhood Watch Program has a no weapons carry policy as well as no contact policy, Zimmerman broke both. Also Zimmerman has no authority to question anybody. That was for the police to handle. Had they done so, Martin would still be alive I think. ?And again just because you have CCW does not mean you can carry a firearm everywhere. Some place do not allow them, like Federal buildings.

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Holmes

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"Holmes" (L is not silent) is the correct Ebonics pronunciation which has a history of being used equivalently with, "dude", "guy", "man" or similar non-familiar alternatives not in the third person.

It was made popular in late 60s East Coast slang, and then later devolved into, "homes" (silent L) at which point it was incorrectly assumed to be short for, "homeboy".

"Homeboy" is typically expressed as a familiar, friendly term often in the third person.

Unlike homeboy, holmes can be used in a variety of ways to denote friendship, aggressiveness, or dubious curiousity.

"What you lookin at holmes?"

"Nice score on that one holmes!"

"Hey Holmes..."

buy holmes mugs & shirts

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holmes

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Term came into existence as a honorific after Larry Holmes defeated Gerry "The Great White Hope" Cooney, in spectacular fashion in 1982. Larry Holmes, a dominant heavyweight champion, won his first 48 professional fights Its orgin has no reference to Sherlock Holmes, John Holmes, or homeboy. It has come to be used in place homeboy, or just as a term for a stranger ie Jack or Buddy.

What's up holmes?

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Well as I said the "School tested the bag and the test proved negative, that is the schools claim, Martin was not tested. Martin was never arrested for any crime.

No, but as is often the case, disciplinary action in schools is a precursor to criminal proceedings later in life.

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The neighborhood Watch Program has a no weapons carry policy as well as no contact policy, Zimmerman broke both. Also Zimmerman has no authority to question anybody. That was for the police to handle. Had they done so, Martin would still be alive I think. ?And again just because you have CCW does not mean you can carry a firearm everywhere. Some place do not allow them, like Federal buildings.

A) He broke neither, as he was not out "on patrol." As he was on a personal errand, he was absolutely allowed to have his legally-carried weapon on him.

B) His personal errand did not includ a federal building, so your last two points are invalid and irrelevant.

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Well as I said the "School tested the bag and the test proved negative, that is the schools claim, Martin was not tested. Martin was never arrested for any crime.

No, but as is often the case, disciplinary action in schools is a precursor to criminal proceedings later in life.

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Being a Criminalogist...I would like to see your data on school disciplinary actions being a precursor to later criminal activity.

I seriously doubt that you are a criminologist (note spelling). Past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior.

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why would you need a weapon to go to the store? Or is it just an ego thing?

Or, is the question another reason for doubting that you're a criminologist?

K.

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Believe what you will, oh there are various theories of crime.

Well, it is not a "theory of crime" that past behavior is a predictor of future behavior. It's a fact. And victims encounter crime in the most ordinary of circumstances, walking to their car, working behind the counter, sometimes just sitting in their living room or asleep in their bed. I would expect a Criminologist to know those things, not argue against them and ask why someone would "need" a gun to go to the store. That said, however, a friend who watches more TV than I do has pointed out to me that technicians in forensic labs are called "criminologists" today. So, I'll pick door number two.

K.

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