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RE: need to loose weight - 5/22/2012 4:33:32 PM

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She's right, running is fantastic. I'm not a runner, though. I've tried it and it's just not for me. But if you can do it, hats off to you! You know what the best exercise is? The one you like doing and you KEEP doing! But it's good to change it up, too. You'll get there.

Yeah, you've got to do something you at least somewhat like or you won't keep with it. Running's definitely not for me, either, it makes my ankles cranky and I just really don't like it. But I had a lot of success with the elliptical machine and some light weight training, which I enjoyed a lot more. I know some people that really dig Zumba or aerobics videos, or the OP could try doing swimming or biking.... they'll all help as long as you stick with it and do it regularly!

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RE: need to loose weight - 5/22/2012 11:20:21 PM

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I agree with the Weight Watchers.

It's not a 'diet' really. It's a relearning process.

Food, weight, eating...........it's a really weird and fucked up relationship we have. Based on what I've seen my daughter go through, Weight Watchers is an excellent programme. IF indeed you are ready willing and able. You've got to want to succeed and follow the programme. It will work. I've seen it.

Completely agree with the bolded part. WW helped me change my relationship with food. I have an amazing coach. There are still times when stress brings me to consider going back to previous, unhealthy patterns, but now I have the internal tools so I can choose healthier paths.

I posted my original reply two days ago, saying I lost 95 pounds. But today was weigh in day and I need to change that number to 97. Woot.

Those recommending exercise are right. But I wouldn't recommend jogging/running if you're 100 pounds overweight. It could compromise your ankles and/or knees. Here's what I did. I decided I was just going to move my body. That's it. Movement was better than staying still. I took short and easy walks, both on the treadmill and around town (gets too hot in the summer over here to do much outside, though). My commitment was just to move, rather than sit. After awhile I started getting bored with that, so I'd move a little faster, push a little more....but slowly, little by little. Now I'm doing Zumba 3+ times a week, walking, doing toning weights, etc. Start slow, and progress from there.

And whatever method of weight loss you choose, plan on stumbling a few times (or more). Doesn't matter that you stumble, as long as you get up and keep going.

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RE: need to loose weight - 5/23/2012 6:03:23 AM

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Another idea on moving that will help you....

Park a few blocks away from your work or at the end of the parking lot when shopping. Walk the rest of the way.
If you take public transportation, get off at a stop a few blocks further away and again, walk the rest of the way.
My sister does this and has helped her. I do it all the time.

Basically like NuevaVida said, just move. Every chance you get, just move. It doesn't have to be complicated or difficult. Work your way up slowly, especially if you have a lot of weight to lose.

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RE: need to loose weight - 5/23/2012 8:14:14 AM

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You say you need to lose at least 100 lbs.
Your profile says you weigh 190 and are 5'6".
So you want to weigh less than 90 lbs?

That hardly seems healthy.

You say you have no health problems.
Wanting to weigh much less than you are supposed to is not healthy.

When was the last time you went to the Dr for a check up?

Have you had your thyroid checked?

Before you embark on a weight loss program you need to know your health status, and then you should set up a healthy weight loss goal for yourself with your doctor.

And how much do you weigh? Here's someone who is dangerously overweight and you're trying to talk her out of doing the best thing she can possibly do, which is get active and get fit. Unbelievable.

I did not do that.
I was going by what her profile text said.
(which was that she was 5'6" and weighed 190).
Needing to lose more than 100 lbs would have put her in the dangerously anorexic category.
I did not try to talk her out of anything; I said she should set up a healthy weight loss goal with her doctor.

She clarified so there is no problem but why you would have issues with my math or my specific advice, unless you think weighing less than 90lbs when one is 5'6" is healthy, is beyond me.

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RE: need to loose weight - 5/23/2012 9:04:46 AM

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Indeed.

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RE: need to loose weight - 5/23/2012 9:40:48 AM

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First you do need to find an exercise you enjoy, if you hate it you're not going to keep at it and you will start finding excuses to skip out, for me jogging is something I just HATE, and I mean HATE, give me a pair of inline skates and I happily go on for hours, so just find something like that for you. Swimming is super excellent, you don't wear your joints out and you burn a lot of calories.

http://www.livestrong.com is an excellent site, I use the free site, you put in what you eat, it tells you the calories, you put in your exercise, it calculates the calories you have burned, you give in your actual weight and your target weight, it will tell you how much you can get rid off in which time, how much calories you are allowed to eat every day, and also calculate the amount of nutrition you have, it will warn you if you have too much saturated fats, sugar or sodium in your diet.

The important thing is that you don't go nuts and go on a crazy diet and exercise regime that you can't maintain through your life, but that you have little but significant changes for the better, you don't want to lose the weight too quickly and then deal with loose skin.

There are a few simple tricks that will help you boost your metabolism, like having a glass of luke warm water every morning with a spoonful of cider vinegar, to drink lots of water, maybe have some psyllium husks before each meal (good for your digestion and makes you feel full).

Good luck with it!

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RE: need to loose weight - 5/23/2012 5:58:49 PM

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i think the best regimens for sustainable weight loss combine a healthy perspective on food, diet (meaning reducing caloric intake), and exercise.

Read up on nutrition. This is so very important.

Decrease the number of calories you consume daily while taking into account nutritional needs. No fad diets, or weird dietary restrictions (e.g., no carbs - NOT a good idea). Best bet is to eat 5 small/mini meals per day and drink LOTS of water. Often when we feel hungry, we are actually thirsty. So once you have a food regimen down, if you feel hungry in between, drink water or tea.

Exercise - start modestly given your current weight, and slowly work your way up to something more involved. Exercise in your living room with a DVD if necessary. This doesn't require doing anything in public or in a gym if you don't feel up for that. And I would not recommend starting with running which is high intensity cardio exercise that can be very hard on the joints. Start with something that works your muscles and just gets your body moving.

Ultimately, losing weight is a mathematical equation that consists of consuming fewer calories than you burn each day. It is just a question of doing it in the healthiest way possible, and doing it in a way that is sustainable over time.

You can start a weight loss regimen this summer, but please realize you will not lose 100 lbs over the summer (and if you do, you are not doing it in a healthy way and you are not doing it in a way that is sustainable). It will take longer than a summer to lose 100 lbs, so I encourage getting in the right frame of mind (i.e., that it will take some time) rather than expecting quick/easy results.

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RE: need to loose weight - 5/23/2012 6:06:02 PM

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Ultimately, losing weight is a mathematical equation that consists of consuming fewer calories than you burn each day. It is just a question of doing it in the healthiest way possible, and doing it in a way that is sustainable over time.

Actually that's been shown as a wrong theory that's been around for a long time, some calories count different, meaning they slow your metabolism down considerably. I don't remember if it was Time Magazine or Newsweek that had a big report on it lately, but a few friends who are nutritionists have mentioned it for a long time.

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RE: need to loose weight - 5/23/2012 6:08:29 PM

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I think every person is different as to how they will lose weight or diet. Being skinny is a good thing, being healthy is what you want to shoot for. When I do eat, I get smaller portions, I always sit for a few minutes to look and smell My food before I dig in, this keeps Me on a slow pace as far as eating. People who eat fast tend to be heavier, or so I have heard. Also make better choices as far as what to eat, skip burgers and fries. Don't eat anything fried, stay away from sweets, cokes, etc.
As far as exercise goes, I do cardio three times a week. I run a short distance then skip back (5 times). I do this at night, I can't take the heat of the day. I do work out as well. An hour a day, different body part each time.

That is basically all I do. Good luck.

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RE: need to loose weight - 5/23/2012 6:32:01 PM

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Ultimately, losing weight is a mathematical equation that consists of consuming fewer calories than you burn each day. It is just a question of doing it in the healthiest way possible, and doing it in a way that is sustainable over time.

Actually that's been shown as a wrong theory that's been around for a long time, some calories count different, meaning they slow your metabolism down considerably. I don't remember if it was Time Magazine or Newsweek that had a big report on it lately, but a few friends who are nutritionists have mentioned it for a long time.

I had always thought it was consuming too few calories that slowed your metabolism down, i.e, that as long as you are consuming an appropriate number of calories and burning more than what you consume than you are fine. For example, a high performance athlete consumes a ton of calories, but burns a ton of calories also (and typically has a high metabolism). If you have a link to the articles I would be curious to see them. I thought calories were calories (i.e., a calorie is a measure of energy once food is converted - I didn't think there was any difference between calories in terms of how different calories affect metabolism). I assume you mean that a calorie from fish is say different from a calorie from dairy, or something like that? The article would help me just understand a bit better.

To the OP, I forgot to mention two other things. I'm a big believer in "all things in moderation". In other words, I don't cut things out of my diet entirely. So if I want to have a slice of bacon on occasion, I will. I just won't eat more than a slice. If I want to celebrate someone's birthday, I will have a small slice of birthday cake. If I've had a long week and feel like having a glass of wine with dinner, I will. I just won't have a glass every evening. I think the moment you start denying yourself things, you set yourself up for a routine that is not sustainable. And you raise the risk that you will then binge at some point on the very thing you've been denying yourself. I would cut out any bad foods that you're not that attached to. I have a friend who just isn't that all into sweets, so she just stopped eating desserts - it works for her because she doesn't feel she is denying herself anything. But I have a big sweet tooth! Food and drink, and sharing food and drink, are a big part of all cultures. So find healthy ways to still be able to indulge once in a while, by simply making other choices later in the day, or in the week, to compensate. A diet does not have to mean never having dessert (or whatever your favorite indulgence is) ever again in one's life.

I don't own a scale. I don't really care what my actual weight is. I go by how I feel (most important) and how I look (secondarily). I also could care less what size I am (especially because I wear different sizes in different brands, different articles of clothing, etc.) I probably have clothes in 3 or 4 different sizes in the closet (i.e., that all currently fit me). So try to think about his in a more overall sense - your overall health, your overall look, rather than a specific target weight or size. The numbers can be meaningless sometimes. For example, when I am a good weight for myself I have a ton of energy. Less weight than that, and I start to feel tired a lot. More weight than that and I also get lethargic. So I can often just tell by how I feel if I've gained/lost weight from my healthy norm.

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RE: need to loose weight - 5/23/2012 7:27:51 PM

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I'm trying to find the article, it's basically if you eat refined starches and sugars (they used Twinkies as an example - extremely bad for you) you feed fat cells unless you are extremely active, say for example 2 people with the same metabolism overeat, one overeats on highly processed food, the other on more healthy stuff and both consume the same amount of calories - the person who overeats on the over processed food will gain more, despite having the same exercise and calorific intake.

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RE: need to loose weight - 5/23/2012 7:41:10 PM

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I'm trying to find the article, it's basically if you eat refined starches and sugars (they used Twinkies as an example - extremely bad for you) you feed fat cells unless you are extremely active, say for example 2 people with the same metabolism overeat, one overeats on highly processed food, the other on more healthy stuff and both consume the same amount of calories - the person who overeats on the over processed food will gain more, despite having the same exercise and calorific intake.

Okay, thanks. Yes, of course. I did qualify my statement with "It is just a question of doing it in the healthiest way possible, and doing it in a way that is sustainable over time." My statement about caloric intake and caloric burn assumed an otherwise "healthy" diet. I would assume too much refined starches and sugars or highly processed foods would not be the "healthiest way possible". So I totally agree with you that a non-healthy diet is never a good thing.

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RE: need to loose weight - 5/23/2012 8:56:33 PM

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I think I found the article, not really sure...

Had to edit, wrong article, found the cove of the one I think it was...

http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,20080623,00.html

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RE: need to loose weight - 5/24/2012 6:21:04 AM

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I think I found the article, not really sure...

Had to edit, wrong article, found the cove of the one I think it was...

http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,20080623,00.html

Thank you! You can read the whole article by clicking on the red bar to the right that says something like "read whole article" or "read cover article".

This article again seems to support the idea that people must eat a healthful diet in order to lose weight (i.e., whole grains, fresh fruits and vegetables, fewer processed foods and sweets). Were you thinking of the glycemic index findings mentioned in the article?

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Ludwig's unique weight-control program focuses on the glycemic index of his patients' diets, attempting to reduce the sharp ups and downs in blood-sugar levels that he believes encourage children to overeat. That means cutting back severely on the highly processed carbohydrates that make up the backbone of the diet of too many kids. A first-time trip to the clinic includes a visit with a nutritionist, who listens as parents detail what a child has eaten over the past couple of days--and then informs them that almost all of it will have to go, to be replaced by lots of whole grains, fresh fruits and vegetables.

In other words, the more high glycemic index foods you eat, because they are nutritionally not that robust, your body continues to search for the nutrition that it did not get. So it causes people to overeat. This is at the root of why highly processed carbs are bad - eating them makes you want to eat even more food as your body desperately searches for nutrients that it needs.

I know that when I eat healthier foods in general I feel full more quickly, stay full feeling for longer, and do not have the same types of food cravings that I do when I indulge in a sugary treat. I do think the glycemic index of food is an important consideration. (And a low glycemic index diet will also help prevent onset of Type II diabetes).

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RE: need to loose weight - 5/24/2012 8:16:04 AM

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I agree with other people about lifestyle changes being the most important. If at any point you start eating the way that got you where you are, you WILL get back to there. I went from 215 to 130 in about two years and have stayed 135 +-10 for four more. There was dieting involved, but in between and after was always a much more restrained diet than my original one.

My knees have been gimping out on me : ( so I don't do much running at the moment. Elliptical is my favorite machine very easy on the joints and mimics running/walking fairly closely; if you add in a run once in a while to keep good form you can maintain some good run speeds still with mostly elliptical exercise. I don't do weight lifting because I'm a guy that doesn't want to look like one so I have to be careful about my exercise outlets.

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RE: need to loose weight - 5/24/2012 8:23:28 AM

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I know that when I eat healthier foods in general I feel full more quickly, stay full feeling for longer, and do not have the same types of food cravings that I do when I indulge in a sugary treat. I do think the glycemic index of food is an important consideration. (And a low glycemic index diet will also help prevent onset of Type II diabetes).

I've found this to personally be true too. Vegetable omelets in the morning have been the most satiating thing I could find and were the cornerstone of what I regimented out for myself when I started dieting (later on I started tracking instead of regimenting).

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RE: need to loose weight - 5/24/2012 11:24:00 AM

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I also want to share this article that I found very interesting on one African-American's perspective on weight/obesity and health. I think what she has to say applies to everyone, in the sense that as a society if we start to accept overweight and obese as the norm, we are ultimately hurting ourselves. I admire her commitment to raising healthy children in a community where the optimal body type seems to encourage greater weight than is healthy. Again, I feel her perspective is instructive to all of us regardless of our background.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/06/opinion/sunday/why-black-women-are-fat.html?_r=3

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RE: need to lose weight - 5/29/2012 12:35:12 PM

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Since April 16, I've lost 11 pounds using myfitnesspal, which is free. I could lose more faster, but I'm being moderate and not depriving myself.

Seeing the fat content of how I ate previously has taught me to make substitutions - low fat salad dressing instead of straight olive oil, poaching instead of frying, fat-free cottage cheese instead of nuts as a snack, less butter, cheese, mayo and ice cream. Yesterday, I had 1/4 C of ice cream; I've been known to polish off a pint.

myfitnesspal gives you a "budget" of calories, carbs, fat, and protein. I always go over protein and ignore this. Fat is my challenge. I saw all my leftover calories and started eating more low fat sweets and felt like shit, so went back to the types of whole foods I normally eat, except for reducing fat.

You get extra calories by putting in the exercise you've done so I eat nuts, peanut butter or red meat on days that I get more exercise.

Feel free to contact me if you chose MFP and have any questions about it.

Swimming is the best exercise for me to lose weight but chlorine bothers me. I am SO HAPPY that it is warm enough to swim - I swam 20 minutes Sunday and 40 minutes yesterday. I have knee problems and haven't exercised during the last two months when I've been getting MRIs, seeing doctors, and waiting for PT. I have been gardening though. I call this "Mom's Backyard Bootcamp." My little old Mom can outwork me and my brother combined.

Yoga has mixed results - vigorous types such as Ashtanga/Power Yoga/Vinyasa definitely burn calories but slower types can slow your metabolism. However, if you are overeating due to stress or emotional issues, yoga can help counteract this. Bob Harper of The Biggest Loser has a yoga video that includes vinyasa: http://www.amazon.com/The-Biggest-Loser-Workout-Weight/dp/B001GP5TLI

I haven't done that one, but the P90X yoga workout seriously kicked my butt and I have been practicing since 1996 and have been a certified yoga teacher for 10 years.

The best exercise for you is one that you can stick to (and not hurt yourself.)

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RE: need to lose weight - 5/29/2012 1:10:35 PM

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MFP sounds pretty much like LiveStrong, I kinda like that they alert you if you are eating too much of the wrong stuff or if you are not eating enough, one of my biggest problems was that for the calories I burned due to a really active life style, I didn't eat enough and sometimes slowed my metabolism down.

Btw olive oil is not a fat, it actually helps you to lose weight.

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RE: need to lose weight - 5/29/2012 5:56:29 PM

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Btw olive oil is not a fat, it actually helps you to lose weight.

That has not been my experience at all. I do use olive oil (and typically no other type of oil) because I think it's the healthiest one out there, but it acts like a fat in my body, and has not aided me in the weight I have lost. I use it in very small quantities now.

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