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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/21/2012 6:34:38 PM   
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The only reason this is even under investigation is because of the right wing conspiracy nuts who believe this was part of a secret Obama administration plan to ban gun sales in the US.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/



You and Rachel Maddow are right Ken, it was the vast right wing conspiracy that let over 2000 guns get purchased and smuggled into Mexico, kill over 300 Mexicans, and one US Border Patrol agent... I admit it, the investigation had nothing to do with


Do you or anyone have any evidence that the straw buyers would have been completely unable to buy guns if not for the ATF's help? No.

Therefore this is a complete non story except for the fear mongering of a single ultra right wing blogger and the conspiracy nuts who believe his drivel.

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/21/2012 7:03:28 PM   
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Petty... LOL

Did you watch all fifty two minutes of that, Lucy

One would have to really love gun running murderous bastards

Really hate all the Mexican people who were murdered

To swallow all those lies

Bobble their head to all that blatant doubletalk and pure spin and bullshit

At some point even people like you will finally begin to see this lowly slimy scum sucking president as he really is

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Try watching the full vid instead of posting four soundbites... five minutes out of 52... is hardly a laugh a minute.
Learn something important...(snorts)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/photos-and-video/video/2012/06/21/press-briefing
or even go to the "facts" given at the fox "fun n games" blog
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/06/21/watch-fox-news-reporter-ed-henry-challenges-jay-carney-on-executive-privilege-during-wh-press-briefing/

BTW he mentions "the FBI agents" name twice, and fluffed it once...
what is your point??
that he gets mixed up in an hour long question and answer period/briefing??
can you be any more petty?
Oh never mind, I forgot who I was talking to






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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/21/2012 7:33:18 PM   
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At some point .. people .. will finally begin to see this .. president as he really is




The great danger is that it will happen shortly after the election, when he can be more flexible, Sanity.

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/21/2012 7:49:29 PM   
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The point being... I got her petty, right here.

Obama is a terrorist, killing people to advance his agenda

He deliberately put those weapons into the arms of Mexican narco-terrorists, knowing full well what kind of people they are, in order to turn public opinion against the second amendment

Else why the coverup

And why mince words

Leftists certainly dont

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/21/2012 7:52:10 PM   
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He deliberately put those weapons into the arms of Mexican narco-terrorists, knowing full well what kind of people they are, in order to turn public opinion against the second amendment


At least now you're entertaining!

That's quite a plot.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/28/colbert-obama-gun-control-conspiracy_n_1385687.html

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/21/2012 7:56:04 PM   
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Can you think of a better reason to deliberately allow over fifteen hundred assault rifles walk into the hands of known murderers

Get hundreds of Mexicans killed

Then cover it up

Entertain us now, and spin these undeniable facts away

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/21/2012 8:04:07 PM   
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And all to implement his secret plan to take away our guns.

Until Holder messed it up.



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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/21/2012 8:24:25 PM   
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Crafty doesnt describe that crews antics

Something like 350 Mexicans killed

Again, why the coverup

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/21/2012 8:34:18 PM   
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The secret crafty gun-ban plan.

He's a clever one, that 'Bama!

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/21/2012 8:41:55 PM   
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Tell us your idea, what is a good reason for Obama and Holder deliberately letting all those weapons walk, for a good reason for Obama and Holder purposely allowing all those hundreds of people to be murdered

A reason so good that Holder and Obama, the core of the most transparent administration ever, are above the law

Are above explaining their actions in this case

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I thought you answered that already!

The secret crafty gun-ban plan.

He's a clever one, that 'Bama!



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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/21/2012 8:49:35 PM   
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I thought that was settled.

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/21/2012 8:54:22 PM   
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The difference between Watergate and Fast and Furious?

No one was killed in Watergate...

What did Obama know and when did he know it.

I want to know if my president is a terrorist...




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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/21/2012 8:56:14 PM   
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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/21/2012 8:58:33 PM   
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Do you or anyone have any evidence that the straw buyers would have been completely unable to buy guns if not for the ATF's help? No.


Seriously, you're asking me to prove something that didn't happen?

Shall I predict the 2020 World Series for you too? How about the 2035 Superbowl? Ohh I know, in your next response you'll agree with Nancy Pelosi and her statement that this is nothing more than an attack on Holder’s aggressive attempts to combat voter suppression.

So you think this isn't an issue because Mexican criminals could buy guns without the help of the US government, instead of admitting you and Rachel are wrong about Bush's involvement with F&F?

This has got to be the most ridiculous statement ever written on Collarme.




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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/21/2012 9:07:57 PM   
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The fact that they deliberately let the weapons walk, ordered agents to not try to track them, makes that hard to believe.

It is very hard to believe that was just stupidity. And if that was mere stupidity, that was criminal stupidity.

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What's so hard about believing that somebody's bright idea went badly and embarrassingly wrong, and rather than take the hit, at the time, they've made the whole situation worse for themselves, foolishly stalling and dodging, and hoping it would all just go away?



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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/21/2012 9:10:28 PM   
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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/21/2012 9:14:58 PM   
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Leftists are generally the ones who claim to have all the answers

Thats only because their answers constantly change though, depending on the wind

In other words, imagine if you can the far left hysterics if this were a Republican administration... Murdering hundreds of Mexicans and a U.S. border agent and then attempting to cover it up with claims of "Executive Privilege"

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Gosh, I thought you guys had this thing all figured out.




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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/21/2012 9:18:06 PM   
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I can just see a Republican administration doing that.

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/21/2012 9:23:30 PM   
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You think giving over a thousand guns to terrorists was about keeping guns out of the hands of criminals I suppose

Another of your brilliant presidents brilliant plans, so far ahead of the rest of us that it looks stupid from here

Even criminal

Because its so brilliant


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And all to turn public opinion against the second amendment!

I can just see a Republican administration doing that.




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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/21/2012 9:25:06 PM   
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