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RE: All things gun control go here - 12/21/2012 8:26:34 PM

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Taz, try 1000 dollars plus

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RE: All things gun control go here - 12/21/2012 8:27:28 PM

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Nope. None of those things I can take out of the home and kill the next person I meet with either. And bull fucking shit its the same as holding a woman liable for being raped.

Lock the fucking shit up at home and half these problems would be solved. Soothe your egos some other way. What the hell happened to personal responsibility? You guys can afford 300 dollar guns.. but you cant afford a safe to lock them up in?

Bull fucking shit yourself

You're wanting to turn a VICTIM into a criminal. That's exactly what those 'blame the rape victim' people try to do.

As for not being able to kill someone with a tool I stole. Wanna bet? A framing hammer at close range is downright nasty.

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RE: All things gun control go here - 12/21/2012 8:29:18 PM

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Yanno? Like let's not even fucking go there, what he did do was bad enough. The assumption that without a gun he would have done less damage came out of somebody's ass. There is no reason to assume that.

K.

Another assumption is that he would have killed if he didnt have a gun.

Can you prove that without a doubt? No. You are going on your own assumptions the same as I am.

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RE: All things gun control go here - 12/21/2012 8:30:38 PM

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Bull fucking shit yourself

You're wanting to turn a VICTIM into a criminal. That's exactly what those 'blame the rape victim' people try to do.

As for not being able to kill someone with a tool I stole. Wanna bet? A framing hammer at close range is downright nasty.

No, I want to prevent as many victims from happening as possible. All you want to do is toss up your hands and say.. Oh well, It would have happened anyways.

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RE: All things gun control go here - 12/21/2012 8:32:08 PM

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Taz, try 1000 dollars plus

Yep, I know, I priced them.

2 - 3 guns and ammo, yes?

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RE: All things gun control go here - 12/21/2012 8:36:36 PM

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Yanno? Like let's not even fucking go there, what he did do was bad enough. The assumption that without a gun he would have done less damage came out of somebody's ass. There is no reason to assume that.

K.

Another assumption is that he would have killed if he didnt have a gun.

Can you prove that without a doubt? No. You are going on your own assumptions the same as I am.

can you prove beyond doubt that he wouldn't have

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RE: All things gun control go here - 12/21/2012 8:40:38 PM

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Not to mention say.... rat poison.

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Nope. None of those things I can take out of the home and kill the next person I meet with either. And bull fucking shit its the same as holding a woman liable for being raped.

Lock the fucking shit up at home and half these problems would be solved. Soothe your egos some other way. What the hell happened to personal responsibility? You guys can afford 300 dollar guns.. but you cant afford a safe to lock them up in?

Bull fucking shit yourself

You're wanting to turn a VICTIM into a criminal. That's exactly what those 'blame the rape victim' people try to do.

As for not being able to kill someone with a tool I stole. Wanna bet? A framing hammer at close range is downright nasty.

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RE: All things gun control go here - 12/21/2012 8:40:51 PM

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Nope... no one can either way. So my assumptions are just as valid as anyone who insists these would have happened regardless.

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RE: All things gun control go here - 12/21/2012 8:41:22 PM

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Bull fucking shit yourself

You're wanting to turn a VICTIM into a criminal. That's exactly what those 'blame the rape victim' people try to do.

As for not being able to kill someone with a tool I stole. Wanna bet? A framing hammer at close range is downright nasty.

No, I want to prevent as many victims from happening as possible. All you want to do is toss up your hands and say.. Oh well, It would have happened anyways.

Absolute ASSWIPE.

You just want to make victims of a crime responsible for the crime against them.

JUST LIKE RAPE VICTIMS

Suuuure let those crackhead burglars off....... "I couldn't help myself. I could see it thru the window. It's HIS fault I stole from him."

How far is that from "Your honor, she was wearing a short skirt and a halter top. I could see....."?

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RE: All things gun control go here - 12/21/2012 8:43:05 PM

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Absolute ASSWIPE.

You just want to make victims of a crime responsible for the crime against them.

JUST LIKE RAPE VICTIMS

Suuuure let those crackhead burglars off....... I couldn't help myself. I could see it thru the window. It's HIS fault I stole from him.

How far is that from "Your honor, she was wearing a short skirt and a halter top. I could see....."?

LOL.. good try. But massive fail. Sorry, you arent going to shut me up, no matter how hard you try and strawman me, Hill. Its not going to work.

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RE: All things gun control go here - 12/21/2012 8:43:08 PM

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Not to mention say.... rat poison.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Nope. None of those things I can take out of the home and kill the next person I meet with either. And bull fucking shit its the same as holding a woman liable for being raped.

Lock the fucking shit up at home and half these problems would be solved. Soothe your egos some other way. What the hell happened to personal responsibility? You guys can afford 300 dollar guns.. but you cant afford a safe to lock them up in?

Bull fucking shit yourself

You're wanting to turn a VICTIM into a criminal. That's exactly what those 'blame the rape victim' people try to do.

As for not being able to kill someone with a tool I stole. Wanna bet? A framing hammer at close range is downright nasty.

virtually every school janators closet has the materials for making chlorene gas

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RE: All things gun control go here - 12/21/2012 8:44:07 PM

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virtually every school janators closet has the materials for making chlorene gas

Sure does. And they are locked.

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RE: All things gun control go here - 12/21/2012 8:45:30 PM

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Absolute ASSWIPE.

You just want to make victims of a crime responsible for the crime against them.

JUST LIKE RAPE VICTIMS

Suuuure let those crackhead burglars off....... I couldn't help myself. I could see it thru the window. It's HIS fault I stole from him.

How far is that from "Your honor, she was wearing a short skirt and a halter top. I could see....."?

LOL.. good try. But massive fail. Sorry, you arent going to shut me up, no matter how hard you try and strawman me, Hill. Its not going to work.

Im not strawmanning you.

You say "lock up the goods so noone can commit a crime with them."

How is that different from putting a woman in a hijab and chastity belt to prevent rape?

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RE: All things gun control go here - 12/21/2012 8:46:39 PM

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virtually every school janators closet has the materials for making chlorene gas

Sure does. And they are locked.

so is my house

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RE: All things gun control go here - 12/21/2012 8:46:48 PM

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virtually every school janators closet has the materials for making chlorene gas

Sure does. And they are locked.

Sometimes. At the schools Ive worked at, they were usually wide open.

Ever been a teacher?

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RE: All things gun control go here - 12/21/2012 8:48:14 PM

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virtually every school janators closet has the materials for making chlorene gas

Sure does. And they are locked.

so is my house

what do you do when they still steal the gun safe

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RE: All things gun control go here - 12/21/2012 8:49:52 PM

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virtually every school janators closet has the materials for making chlorene gas

Sure does. And they are locked.

Sometimes. At the schools Ive worked at, they were usually wide open.

Ever been a teacher?

that is what I thought but since I never tried the doors at the schools I was at I wanted to wait for someone with more first hand knowlege

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RE: All things gun control go here - 12/21/2012 8:51:05 PM

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Yes you are.

My position is to have the homeowner lock up his guns before they are stolen. If he fails to do so, then, yes, he is responsible for not taking responsibility. Its a fucking safe. Not taking your precious guns away, for fuck sake. If you can prove you took proper precautions, you are off the hook. What the fuck is the issue with that?

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RE: All things gun control go here - 12/21/2012 8:52:16 PM

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virtually every school janators closet has the materials for making chlorene gas

Sure does. And they are locked.

so is my house

what do you do when they still steal the gun safe

Then the gun owner is off the hook if he can prove his safe was stolen, which should be pretty damn simple.

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RE: All things gun control go here - 12/21/2012 8:53:58 PM

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virtually every school janators closet has the materials for making chlorene gas

Sure does. And they are locked.

Sometimes. At the schools Ive worked at, they were usually wide open.

Ever been a teacher?

Nope, just a fill in school nurse. They were all locked.

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