jlf1961
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No, the Holocaust is not some Jewish tale told by 'Jewish scholars and historians'. It is accepted in all advanced countries by practically all academic historians. The Holocaust is part of the history of 20th century Europe, of World War 2 and of World History. In fact, you'll find that professional historians are utterly scathing about Holocaust denial. However, even though some argue that the historically accepted view of events is in fact, corrupt, it may not necessarily mean the individual is racist, or even anti-semitic. Some may even argue that the debate is reduced to a conflict of races, or ethnic discrimination, for the purpose of detracting any further investigation into the facts at the root of the discussion; essentially making the topic socially taboo, and therefore difficult to discuss and research in open circles without being labeled a bigot. It is far easier to discredit someone when they are painted the fool, or uneducated, and ignorant to history and its source The truth of the matter is that by denying the Holocaust, you are basically calling Jews liars, denying there history. quote:
Holocaust denial is generally viewed as antisemitic.[9] The Encyclopedia of Genocide and Crimes Against Humanity, for example, defines Holocaust denial as "a new form of anti-Semitism, but one that hinges on age-old motifs".[176] The Anti-Defamation League has stated that "Holocaust denial is a contemporary form of the classic anti-Semitic doctrine of the evil, manipulative and threatening world Jewish conspiracy"[177] and French historian Valérie Igounet has written that "Holocaust denial is a convenient polemical substitute for anti-semitism."[178] In 2005, the European Monitoring Centre on Racism and Xenophobia (now the Fundamental Rights Agency) published a "working definition" of antisemitism which gave as an example of the way that antisemitism might manifest itself, "denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust)".[179] quote:
Holocaust denial is explicitly or implicitly illegal in 17 countries: Austria, Belgium, Canada, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Hungary, Israel, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, and Switzerland.[185] The European Union's Framework decision on Racism and Xenophobia states that denying or grossly trivializing "crimes of genocide" should be made "punishable in all EU Member States".[186] Slovakia criminalized denial of fascist crimes in general in late 2001; in May 2005, the term "Holocaust" was explicitly adopted by the penal code and in 2009, it became illegal to deny any act regarded by an international criminal court as genocide. The Parliament of Hungary adopted the most recent legislation, which declared denial or trivialization of the Holocaust a crime punishable by up to three years imprisonment, in February 2010.[187] Source Collarme has decided that holocaust denial is not antisemitic, I think it is, what is your opinions? Should the TOS reflect the given world view on the subject? quote:
What is Holocaust denial and distortion? Holocaust denial is an attempt to negate the established facts of the Nazi genocide of European Jewry. Key denial assertions are: that the murder of approximately six million Jews during World War II never occurred; that the Nazis had no official policy or intention to exterminate the Jews; and that the poison gas chambers in Auschwitz-Birkenau death camp never existed. A newer trend is the distortion of the facts of the Holocaust. Common distortions include, for example, assertions that: the figure of six million Jewish deaths is an exaggeration; the deaths in the concentration camps were the results of disease or starvation but not policy; and that the diary of Anne Frank is a forgery. Distinct from denial and distortion is misuse of the Holocaust. Misuse occurs when aspects of the Holocaust are compared to events, situations, or people where there is no genocide or genocidal intent. Examples of Holocaust misuse include: claiming that Israeli-government actions are equivalent to those of the Nazis; equating the treatment of animals with the treatment of Jews and other victims during the Holocaust; labeling political opponents as Nazis; or misusing the terminology of the Holocaust to assert that particular actions are the same as actions undertaken by the Nazis. Holocaust denial, distortion, and misuse all undermine the understanding of history. Denial and distortion of the Holocaust almost always reflect antisemitism. US Holocaust Museum stand on the question
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